Official John Wall Appreciation Thread

[jivelikenice]

Wait a minute. Less talent than the Wizards?

I was being sarcastc....Not including Wall, outside of Nene who on the Wizards would even be in the rotation for Sacramento?

[TheKingOfVa360]

Ive seen a few threads on teh Trade Board regarding Harden, the consensus seems to be (among OKC fans) that ownership is willing to go well into lux tax territory in order to keep Durant/Westy/Harden together, and even Iblocka the next year, but I think they are being overly optimistic and are overstating the "deep pockets" of Clay Bennett and co.

The Suns were saying the same thing about JJ back in '05. They are never going to say "we can't afford this guy so we have to get rid of him".

Yeah Harden is good as gone, he will get tired of being the 3rd fiddle.

[montestewart]

Wait a minute. Less talent than the Wizards?

I was being sarcastc....Not including Wall, outside of Nene who on the Wizards would even be in the rotation for Sacramento?

Yeah, I thought it was a typo. I'm withholding judgment on Wall until I see him with better players, but I would like to see him focus this summer on better using his inside scorers. Hopefully, the team will have more mobile, high-percentage shooters going into next year which, coupled with Nene/Booker/Seraphin down low, can give him more confidence in his half court game options.

[tontoz]

He really needs to be able to hit spot up 3s, not just for the points but also for court spacing to help out the post players.

[hands11]

Quite interesting looking at Wall's month by month production. He's improved in almost every category for every month he's played so far this season.

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Mnth  GP  FGA   FG%  FTA   FT%  REB  AST  BLK  STL   PF   TO  PTS
Dec.  3  12.3  .270  9.0  .704  3.7  6.0  1.7  2.3  1.3  4.7  13.0
Jan. 18  14.2  .414  5.8  .819  5.5  7.3  0.9  1.1  2.4  4.1  16.6
Feb. 14  14.0  .480  7.0  .816  4.6  8.6  0.9  1.4  2.0  4.1  19.2
Mar.  7  14.0  .480  6.6  .761  3.7  9.0  0.6  1.4  2.0  2.6  18.4

update.

March 15 games .426 FG% Reb 4.3 Ast 7.8 Pts 15.8 PER 17.8

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/4237/john-wall

Year over year his FG% is up a little. .020 % now .428 and his FT % is up a little .026 % now .792. Other numbers are pretty much the same. Assist down a little but not much. .6 blocks up .4 steals down .4 Turnovers are the same. So some numbers are up a little, some down a little. Basically his game looks by the numbers to be the same as last year except slightly better FG and FT shooting.

If he could keep these kind of numbers while improving his defense and +/- PER, I could live with that.

For me, it isn't about his numbers so much at this point, it is about how he is doing it. What shots is he taking and when. Will he continue to drive into charges which show bad judgement. Can he develop a reliable outside shot. Can he stop giving up his dribble. PGs should never give up their dribble. Only players with poor handles should do that. And can he slow down when he speaks in a post game interview

Seriously. He needs to learn to say one word at a time. He just blends them all together like he is reading the small disclaimer print you see after a TV ad. While some may think that is a silly request, it is how he plays on the court to often as well. Slow down John. Everything is not going full speed.

I wonder what he girl friends have to say about this.

[theboomking]

Two decent games in a row, but Wall has been struggling a bit compared to his hot stretch in the season. He still has a chance to make the jump though. There have been many excellent PG's who have bloomed late. Wall is a very good distributor, and is a 'shock and awe' type athlete. Check out the reverse dunk off the alley oop. Wall's head was nearly at the rim. I still think John may have the best combination of length and athleticism of any PG in the history of the league. Just a jumper and some teammates away from greatness. I'm crossing my fingers for both.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=020sTzzN4p8[/youtube]

[DCZards]

Two decent games in a row, but Wall has been struggling a bit compared to his hot stretch in the season. He still has a chance to make the jump though. There have been many excellent PG's who have bloomed late. Wall is a very good distributor, and is a 'shock and awe' type athlete. Check out the reverse dunk off the alley oop. Wall's head was nearly at the rim. I still think John may have the best combination of length and athleticism of any PG in the history of the league. Just a jumper and some teammates away from greatness. I'm crossing my fingers for both.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=020sTzzN4p8[/youtube]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on John's unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

[JonathanJoseph]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on [JAVALE's] unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

Just saying...

[montestewart]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on [JAVALE's] unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

Just saying...

Clever. Hope it doesn't play out the same way.

[DallasShalDune]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on [JAVALE's] unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

Just saying...

This is a serious question--I'm not trolling--but do you hold any other views on the team other than your anti-Wall stance? Like do you love Booker's effort or are you disillusioned with Crawford's shot selection. I swear, every time I see your posts, they're about Wall and his short comings.

[Knighthonor]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on [JAVALE's] unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

Just saying...

This is a serious question--I'm not trolling--but do you hold any other views on the team other than your anti-Wall stance? Like do you love Booker's effort or are you disillusioned with Crawford's shot selection. I swear, every time I see your posts, they're about Wall and his short comings.

if you never critical about somebody, they wont improve. just saying

[jivelikenice]

Is wall listening to JJ?

JJ has some legit critiques, but goes overboard with his complaints and arguments IMO (and goes MIA when Wall plays well)....

[JonathanJoseph]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on [JAVALE's] unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

Just saying...

This is a serious question--I'm not trolling--but do you hold any other views on the team other than your anti-Wall stance? Like do you love Booker's effort or are you disillusioned with Crawford's shot selection. I swear, every time I see your posts, they're about Wall and his short comings.

Seems that I'm locally-famous for my Arenas views. Feel free to look through the 2-year old Seraphin thread and you'll see that I've been very high on his potential for some time. I mistakenly believed Blatche would grow up and you can read plenty of my mostly and surprisingly positive take on Grunfeld's basketball moves all negated by his horrible organizational leadership.

I've weighed in on just about everything but the Wall perspective sticks out loudly as it's an outlier opinion.

At the same time, there is not a single issue more important to the future of the Wizards than Wall's development. If he is, in fact, a fatally flawed player than the franchise's strategy is fatally flawed, hence the focus.

[JonathanJoseph]

That dunk was absolutely spectacular. I don't know if it made ESPN top ten but it should have. Agree on [JAVALE's] unreal physical size and abilities. He just needs to work on his bball skills and the mental part of the game, including learning how to change speeds. It will happen.

Just saying...

Clever. Hope it doesn't play out the same way.

That makes two of us. I wish I didn't feel like I've seen this movie before and I know how it ends.

[montestewart]

JJ, Arenas and Wall stick out, but you and I started posting here about the same time, and I've certainly seen you discuss other subjects, and I recall your sticking up for Seraphin when he didn't have many buddies around here.

[JonathanJoseph]

JJ, Arenas and Wall stick out, but you and I started posting here about the same time, and I've certainly seen you discuss other subjects, and I recall your sticking up for Seraphin when he didn't have many buddies around here.

Thanks, Monte.

[Illuminaire]

if you never critical about somebody, they wont improve. just saying

That's why Dallas is asking these questions. If he isn't critical of JJ's posting habits, then how will JJ ever improve?

[montestewart]

if you never critical about somebody, they wont improve. just saying

That's why Dallas is asking these questions. If he isn't critical of JJ's posting habits, then how will JJ ever improve?

It's the circle of life

[DallasShalDune]

Is wall listening to JJ?

JJ has some legit critiques, but goes overboard with his complaints and arguments IMO (and goes MIA when Wall plays well)....

This is my point.

And thanks for answering, JJ. Please understand, if I show frustration with your posts is because they give off air of one-sidedness that is at times well argued, with valid points, but other teams appear to be as squawking and blind as a politician running for office who refuses to compromise. You are right to say Wall is flawed, but you seemingly go overboard when trying to prove to everyone else that he cannot improve.

[hands11]

Wall is doing much much better with Nene the second time around

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4237/john-wall

He is averaging 11 assists over the last 5 games. And that is with one game with only 5 assists.

First time around Wall didn't seem to understand how to adjust his game and he was having problems reading the lanes in an offense they ran more set plays with a genuine post presence. But while Nene was out, he got lots of practice doing it with Keveen. Now that Nene has returned he is posted repeated double assist games.

Wall did make a lot of progress on the court during the year. He had up and downs but when you look at were he started, he learned a lot throughout the year. Coaches have to get some credit for that.

Year three should be rather impressive for John.