A future without MJ?

[Nanogeek]

Blah blah blah, I need everything to be instantaneous for my adhd riddled brain to appreciate

Dude, you're pretty obtuse if you expect a dramatic turnaround of a small market franchise within 2 years.

Typical fairweather Charlottean.

Where did I ever criticize him for not winning? Save your time - I didn't. I said he had done little to show he was a particularly valuable owner. If you actually read what I post and respond to that - that would be more sensible.

[Nanogeek]

I guess since you live in Charlotte your an expert now?

Way to miss the point - fat was making a point of following the team at the local level. I was pointing out that I do follow the team at the local level.

[Elden Payton]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/04/01/3143057/michael-jordan-denies-report-that.html

Cheers for this.

As I said not going to happen.

Seriously though people reach to **** on us.

[ohara]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/04/01/3143057/michael-jordan-denies-report-that.html

Very wise move. Come out and put an end to the stuff right away with a stern statement saying the report was wrong. Good for him. Last we should hear of it now, for a while at least.

[BobsBuddy]

THE TRUTH:MJ made both statements. 1st to put everybody on notice unless the franchisis turns around he's gone in 4 years and second to do damage control at the gate right now.
IF those gate stats are right we must have a helleva allot season ticket holders who don't come to games and are counted as being at TWC. The times I was there they would have been lucky to have 6000-7000 bodies in seats. Anyway we will have to see what happens. I hope the trade we made for TT doesn't turn into a top 3 2014 unprotected draft pick for the Bulls and that we get the #1 pick when the2012 Draft lottery ping pong balls fly in a couple of weeks. We definitely need the 2012 and 2013 #1 picks to get us out of the Dumpster. And Thank God when Diop, Carroll, and Mags salaries are gonein June 2013.Hopefully we will make good decisions on FAs that will contribute to the team and not IR...
And TT's 3 year bloated contract and DJA's RFA situation can only be corrected by trade by this Christmas..
Hopefully both are playing better by then to create some value.

We need some luck to come our way immediately or if I was MJ, I would cut my losses in two years not four.

[BigSlam]

Quit it with the personal attacks and grammar policing and spell checking and school yard bs guys.

Thanks.

[Liver_Pooty]

Would be absolutely ludicrous for Jordan to sale the team right now. The value of sports franchises are climbing even with a franchise in disarray such as Charlotte right now. Get a top 4 pick this year, and next year and combine that with some nice free agent signing and we will be perfectly fine.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Anyone catch the SVP show today? Linda Cohn and The Coach filled in and tackled the story of MJ selling the team. They then said his stint as the Cats' owner could be the lowest point of his career (citing his baseball career and time with the Wizards), and didn't believe his statement that he had no intention of selling the team. Coach then said he thinks he'll jump ship because he doesn't want to be associated with a losing product. And then said something to the effect of: "There's a reason the Hornets left for New Orleans, they should've known another team wouldn't work." Really made me sick.

[SWedd523]

Anyone catch the SVP show today? Linda Cohn and The Coach filled in and tackled the story of MJ selling the team. They then said his stint as the Cats' owner could be the lowest point of his career (citing his baseball career and time with the Wizards), and didn't believe his statement that he had no intention of selling the team. Coach then said he thinks he'll jump ship because he doesn't want to be associated with a losing product. And then said something to the effect of: "There's a reason the Hornets left for New Orleans, they should've known another team wouldn't work." Really made me sick.

A lot of those talk show people are stupid, that much should be a given. If he really did make a statement like that then it's pretty clear he has no idea what he's talking about. Nothing you can really do about it though outside of trying to contact them personally.

As for the MJ thing, it's really easy for these people to pile onto him with the negativity because he's such a well known person. Had the Bobcats owner been anybody else, they wouldn't be talking about "the owner should sell" or any crap like that. Again, nothing you can do about it.

But I guarantee you that if they're able to turn the team around into a contender then they'll all be talking about how smart he is, how he did the right thing by blowing the team up, how the OKC model really does work.

Meh, it's all for ratings.

[BlackOutBuzz]

I know there's nothing I can do about if...just found it irritating I guess and this place seemed like the best outlet. They did ask for comments via twitter, so I did say how they blew it up on purpose for the sake of not being stuck in mediocrity. Of course I don't expect a response...just felt like I should make a comment. Heck, I was frustrated enough to tweet for the first time in 6 months, lol.

They also mentioned that MJ is hardly ever at the games...is this true? They said, whereas most owners attend most games, MJ is far more interested in golf tournaments and promoting his brand.

[SWedd523]

I know there's nothing I can do about if...just found it irritating I guess and this place seemed like the best outlet. They did ask for comments via twitter, so I did say how they blew it up on purpose for the sake of not being stuck in mediocrity. Of course I don't expect a response...just felt like I should make a comment. Heck, I was frustrated enough to tweet for the first time in 6 months, lol.

They also mentioned that MJ is hardly ever at the games...is this true? They said, whereas most owners attend most games, MJ is far more interested in golf tournaments and promoting his brand.

Honestly, I doubt either one of them could name more than maybe 5 owners total.

[Eoghan]

Blah blah blah, I need everything to be instantaneous for my adhd riddled brain to appreciate

Dude, you're pretty obtuse if you expect a dramatic turnaround of a small market franchise within 2 years.

Typical fairweather Charlottean.

Where did I ever criticize him for not winning? Save your time - I didn't. I said he had done little to show he was a particularly valuable owner. If you actually read what I post and respond to that - that would be more sensible.

I have read your post. You stated:

The past 2 years have seen continued static home attendance, continued dubious personnel moves, etc.

I'd like to hear exactly what these dubious personnel moves and et cetera are, in your opinion.

Jordan became majority owner in March of 2010, so we can rule out the poor attendance for that year as being his fault, don't you think? Either way, they made the playoffs that year and their attendance was 15,000+. Next year, their attendance was 15,000+. This year, it's 15,000+. The difference b/w a playoff team with a 44-38 record and getting swept and a 7-43 team is about 400 people apparently. That means about 15,000 fans are likely to show up regardless if we make the playoffs or win 7 games. How do you get more fans? Chasing the 8th seed every year was not doing it, people don't want to see a kind of good team, they want to see a great team. To be a great team you have to either A) sign major stars (see, Heat, Miami); B) make blockbuster trades to build around your superstar(s) (see, Lakers, LA) or C) be horrible for a few seasons and stockpile draft picks, salary cap and assets (see Spurs, SA).

Do you believe that anything but option C is viable for the Bobcats?

Since Jordan has bought into ownership the Bobcats haven't grown attendance at all even when the team was winning more games than the current squad.

This is a misleading statement. When Jordan became majority owner, there were 17 games left in the regular season. They finished 44-38 and were swept in the first round. His first complete year as majority owner, they finished 34-48 with Larry Brown resigning mid-season. They also traded away Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson because they decided to try option C for the first time. Criticizing Jordan's stint as majority owner is like criticizing a seed for not being a tree yet.