Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 10

[itbobby007]

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[dTox]

I like the new poll since it's pretty obvious who the #1 choice would be

[dTox]

I'm worried that his uni brow might lower his ceiling and ability to play the game, big red flags for scouts

[SHFT]

I'm worried that his uni brow might lower his ceiling and ability to play the game, big red flags for scouts

I don't know, I think opposing players will be wondering why he has such a thick one, and in the meantime, he will be blocking their shot. It's a pretty clever strategy IMO.

[DreamTeam09]

I still got barnes for the same reason.
Lamb will remain my 2nd choice...

Fab melo is the player I wan't with a 2nd pick or that C Jeff Withey from kansas...

They have fab melo at 29 and he could end up a real steal. On defence I think hes ready to go right now unless his I.Q. gets in the way. But hes a great C prospect. Jeff Withey is projected 2nd round and is the 2nd best shot blocker in college according to his coach. I wanna see how he matches up against AD today. I would just like to take a C with a 2nd pick. Getting a back-up quality footer in the draft is way cheaper than finding one.

[niQ]

I'm worried that his uni brow might lower his ceiling and ability to play the game, big red flags for scouts

I don't know, I think opposing players will be wondering why he has such a thick one, and in the meantime, he will be blocking their shot. It's a pretty clever strategy IMO.

I'm quite positive it's his unibrow that has been blocking all those shots. If he shaves it off, he'll just be a skinny kid again.

[BillyGM]

Anthony Davis & Jeremy Lamb
I don't want Drummond cause we have got Jonas, I don't want Robinson cause we have got Andrea.

[Homer Jay]

I can't decide between Barnes and Lamb :S
1. Barnes/ Lamb
2. MKG/ Beal
3. Jones/ Rivers
I don't want Drummond cause we have got Jonas, I don't want Robinson cause we have got Andrea.

Yeah I wanted Hoffa at the time too, and not Iggy.... you know... since we already had Jalen Rose.

BPA always. You can always trade away depth.

[YoungD23]

http://www.raptorshq.com/

[Waylon Mercy]

Lamb, Beal, Barnes, MKG its really really tough...

Raps DESPERATLEY need some 3 point shooting from the Wings they could use another
scorer badly....

MKG probably has the most upside of the 4 but his flaws are what we need the most.
Beal and Lamb create issues on what to do with DeRozan. Barnes is the best "fit" but
arguably has the lowest ceiling and biggest bust potential of the 4.

Odds are will probably stay where were at and take what the draft gives us.

[Al_Oliver]

Some players draft decisions:

Fab Melo has signed with agent Arn Tellem, which basically nixes a return to Syracuse next year (tweets Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress).
Jared Sullinger appears undecided about whether or not to return to Ohio State next year, says Doug Lesmerises of The Plain Dealer.
Jeff Borzello of CBSsports.com reports that Washington sophomore Terrence Ross plans to hire an agent and will declare for the NBA draft.
According to Matt Youmans of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, forward Mike Moser will return to UNLV for his sophomore season instead of committing to the NBA draft.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/04/draf ... noel-.html

[tdotrep2]

beal is going to make most of you slap yourselves.

[DreamTeam09]

we need to move both of our 2nds for fab melo. I like him more than I like drummond. This draft is big heavy and although I don't want a big with my 1st pick, getting a quality C prospect in a draft is always a +. I have no problems giving max burn to C rookies. Feed them to fire both.

[Saciid11]

With the second pick this guy makes the most sense ...





Pre Injury McDyess

[Waylon Mercy]

we need to move both of our 2nds for fab melo. I like him more than I like drummond. This draft is big heavy and although I don't want a big with my 1st pick, getting a quality C prospect in a draft is always a +. I have no problems giving max burn to C rookies. Feed them to fire both.

You like Fab Melo better then Drummond?

You can't be serious

[Dr Positivity]

Robinson isn't my 2nd favorite prospect in the draft, but he seems like such a logical choice for us

People shouldn't worry about Bargnani at all w/ the TRob pick. The thing is since Bargnani can play C, a 3 man rotation of him, Robinson and Valanciunas isn't an issue. All can get 30mpg and get their game off

I would say drafting a SG "rocks the boat" a bit more because it'd move Derozan to SF maybe permanently.

[Saciid11]

Anthony Davis & Jeremy Lamb
I don't want Drummond cause we have got Jonas, I don't want Robinson cause we have got Andrea.

Who cares if we have Bargnani, if we get the second pick or third pick and Thomas Robinsson is there, you take him and trade Bargnani for the wing player or point guard..Thomas will give the Raps everything they lack at the power forward position... rebounding, defense, shot blocking and scoring inside and outside...

[Saciid11]

Robinson isn't my 2nd favorite prospect in the draft, but he seems like such a logical choice for us

People shouldn't worry about Bargnani at all w/ the TRob pick. The thing is since Bargnani can play C, a 3 man rotation of him, Robinson and Valanciunas isn't an issue. All can get 30mpg and get their game off

I would say drafting a SG "rocks the boat" a bit more because it'd move Derozan to SF maybe permanently.

If you draft Davis, Thomas Robinsson or Sullinger, you trade Bargnani for wing or point guard, if this team want to get better. We tried Bargnani as small forward it didn't work, we tried him as center it didn't work, and now we tried him as power forward and it looks like the same result as the other positions.

[Kevin Willis]

we need to move both of our 2nds for fab melo. I like him more than I like drummond. This draft is big heavy and although I don't want a big with my 1st pick, getting a quality C prospect in a draft is always a +. I have no problems giving max burn to C rookies. Feed them to fire both.

You like Fab Melo better then Drummond?

You can't be serious

They're the same player basically except Drummond has more 'potential'. Same size. Similar numbers. I would prefer Melo over Drummond too. At least Melo improved this year, he's just not that bright.

[Dr Positivity]

Robinson isn't my 2nd favorite prospect in the draft, but he seems like such a logical choice for us

People shouldn't worry about Bargnani at all w/ the TRob pick. The thing is since Bargnani can play C, a 3 man rotation of him, Robinson and Valanciunas isn't an issue. All can get 30mpg and get their game off

I would say drafting a SG "rocks the boat" a bit more because it'd move Derozan to SF maybe permanently.

If you draft Davis, Thomas Robinsson or Sullinger, you trade Bargnani for wing or point guard, if this team want to get better. We tried Bargnani as small forward it didn't work, we tried him as center it didn't work, and now we tried him as power forward and it looks like the same result as the other positions.

It depends what you mean by "didn't work". Bargnani is a good player. He can be a particularly good 6th man on a team.

What I could see is neither Robinson or Valanciunas starting next year. Opening day has Bargnani and Amir/FA big in the frontcourt and that could very well last all year. Then at the end of the year we make a decision. Do Robinson and JVal both look great, enough to trade Bargnani immediately? Are they ready to start and make Bargnani the 6th man? Is Bargnani better than one of them, but not the other, giving us a starting frontcourt?

Trading Bargnani immediately probably doesn't have much value. He's going to be the same guy a year from now, with the same strengths and weaknesses. His contract will be shorter. Might as well keep him for insurance if either TRob or JVal don't look good their first year. Or as a long term 6th man in our 3 big rotation.

There's no need to play with kid gloves with any of Bargnani, TRob and JVal and say "Well we're starting them immediately and their spot can't be touched!" Dwane Casey is a tough minded guy who probably believes in meritocracy. Bayless and Ed are perfect examples, if we were a team that just threw every prospect 35mpg those guys would've gotten a lot more burn than they have. And I don't see Val in particular being an immediate starting C. Needs to learn the NBA game and bulk up physically, and C is a hard position to start at. Personally I'd agree with him if his plan is 20 minutes off the bench for both Robinson and Valanciunas next year, with the potential for one of them to start as soon as they're good enough defensively too.

Robinson fits Dwane Casey to me. I know he has the Dirk history, but we clearly care about defense and rebounding now. We'd be building with bricks. This might seem like a weird thing to say, but I feel like if Robinson was a hockey player he'd be a future captain. I could see Robinson being a guy you build around mentally. I know we already have a guy in Demar who's like that, but until Demar becomes a better player I wonder how much weight he carries, and Robinson has now made the NCAA Finals and has come from an epic organization in college, etc. Also having 2 guys like that could make it even better.