Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 10

sunny · Post #521 » by **sunny** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:50 am

I want to apologize for my actions and posts.
I just really hate Kentucky that much and need to vent.

Post #522 » by **Undefeated** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:50 am

dTox wrote:You have to remember he's not a go to guy type of player yet, and also plays with 5 potential lottery picks so you can't always expect him to drop 20. He is a solid and consistent 2 way player, and plays within the game and at 17 he's got enough time to improve on the offensive end, that solid block he just had is as good as hitting a dagger on the offensive end, that block toke out Kansas out of the game pretty much.

That was a nice block at the end by MKG, but it doesn't take away the fact that he was practically a non-factor in the championship game tonight. I thought he played well in the first half on both ends of the floor, though disappeared for much of the second half save for that block. I mean, when MKG isn't bringing it on the defensive end what else does he do? And developing his offense isn't exactly easy either. I like him a prospect, but not to the degree where some people overhype him.

JN · Post #523 » by JN » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:50 am

Let's hope this does not repeat itself next year... come on Shabazz and Nerlens, DO NOT team up for PayPal Cal.

sunny · Post #524 » by **sunny** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:51 am

April 3rd:

1.Anthony Davis
2.Thomas Robinson
3.Andre Drummond
4.Michael Kidd Gilchrist
5.Bradley Beal
6.Jared Sullinger
7.Jeremy Lamb
8.Harrison Barnes

Ari_Emanuel · Post #525 » by **Ari_Emanuel** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:52 am

luisnani wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:UK has the game in hand, but I hope everyone else sees the BOSS than Thomas Robinson is after tonight.

No doubt a solid effort from TRob (17 rebounds!!!) but the 6-17 is worrying. UK defense was fantastic.

He played against a guy some dub as the next Bill Russell, and was two makes from being over .500 (8/15) and possibly beating a historically great Kentucky team.

Still worried after that context?

JN · Post #526 » by JN » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:53 am

sunny wrote:
JN wrote:
sunny wrote:an ncaa basketball team has never had their championship vacated so I guess I'm excited to look forward to history.

Sigh

As I said earlier... does UK have a Dwayne Casey as an assistant coach. Casey (The Raptors Coach) was caught delivering cash to players in the late 80's.

likely much worse.

Terrence Jones committed to Washington but was still pursued by Cal (Huge nono in ncaa).
Teague was supposed to go to Louisville until Kentucky came out of nowhere after his brother signed an above market deal with Nike.
Teague, Davis, Jones, MKG haven't been to class since December.

Don't worry UK will have the best APR in the SEC again according to Cal.

In theory the APR is good. Problem is when a team commits gross academic fraud to get around it.

fredericklove · Post #527 » by **fredericklove** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:54 am

sunny wrote:I want to apologize for my actions and posts.
I just really hate Kentucky that much and need to vent.

hahhaha, no worries, arizona will get a shot next season. And kentucky will fall back on earth next season lool, unless Cal gets both Bazz and Noel.

Ari_Emanuel · Post #528 » by **Ari_Emanuel** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:54 am

Undefeated wrote:
dTox wrote:You have to remember he's not a go to guy type of player yet, and also plays with 5 potential lottery picks so you can't always expect him to drop 20. He is a solid and consistent 2 way player, and plays within the game and at 17 he's got enough time to improve on the offensive end, that solid block he just had is as good as hitting a dagger on the offensive end, that block toke out Kansas out of the game pretty much.

That was a nice block at the end by MKG, but it doesn't take away the fact that he was practically a non-factor in the championship game tonight. I thought he played well in the first half on both ends of the floor, though disappeared for much of the second half save for that block. I mean, when MKG isn't bringing it on the defensive end what else does he do? And developing his offense isn't exactly easy either. I like him a prospect, but not to the degree where some people overhype him.

Calling a guy who shared defensive duties against the other team's best player, and going 4/7 with some timely blocks in a slow paced college game is hardly being a non-factor. That said, it would be very easy for a GM to justify not taking him in the top 5. Not saying it is the right move, but that's the optics. Still think it's a matter of him being either too selfish for his own good or having a mental block that he covers up really well. Remember: he's 18.

JamesNaismith · Post #529 » by **JamesNaismith** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:55 am

sunny wrote:April 3rd:

1.Anthony Davis
2.Thomas Robinson
3.Andre Drummond
4.Michael Kidd Gilchrist
5.Bradley Beal
6.Jared Sullinger
7.Jeremy Lamb
8.Harrison Barnes

1. Anthony Davis
2. Thomas Robinson
3. Bradley Beal
4. Michael Kidd Gilchrist
5. Andre Drummond
6. Harrison Barnes (I think Lamb should go before but I blame this pick on BC lol)
7. Jared Sullinger
8. Jeremy Lamb

sunny · Post #530 » by **sunny** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:55 am

fredericklove wrote:
sunny wrote:I want to apologize for my actions and posts.
I just really hate Kentucky that much and need to vent.

hahhaha, no worries, arizona will get a shot next season. And kentucky will fall back on earth next season lool, unless Cal gets both Bazz and Noel.

After seing the results with Davis, I think the key to all of this would be securing Noel.

Offence can be shut down. The impact Davis had was absolutely incredible.

highness · Post #531 » by **highness** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:55 am

T Rob is a beast but does he have much upside left?

fredericklove · Post #532 » by **fredericklove** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:56 am

Undefeated wrote:
dTox wrote:You have to remember he's not a go to guy type of player yet, and also plays with 5 potential lottery picks so you can't always expect him to drop 20. He is a solid and consistent 2 way player, and plays within the game and at 17 he's got enough time to improve on the offensive end, that solid block he just had is as good as hitting a dagger on the offensive end, that block toke out Kansas out of the game pretty much.

That was a nice block at the end by MKG, but it doesn't take away the fact that he was practically a non-factor in the championship game tonight. I thought he played well in the first half on both ends of the floor, though disappeared for much of the second half save for that block. I mean, when MKG isn't bringing it on the defensive end what else does he do? And developing his offense isn't exactly easy either. I like him a prospect, but not to the degree where some people overhype him.

I agree on an offensive level that MKG tends to let others take over and I just think he doesn't have a killer instinct on offense.

sunny · Post #533 » by **sunny** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:56 am

just realized we have a poster named ari emanuel here.

Zeke, Rahm and Ari are all awesome individuals.

Sizzle · Post #534 » by **Sizzle** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:57 am

Undefeated wrote:
dTox wrote:You have to remember he's not a go to guy type of player yet, and also plays with 5 potential lottery picks so you can't always expect him to drop 20. He is a solid and consistent 2 way player, and plays within the game and at 17 he's got enough time to improve on the offensive end, that solid block he just had is as good as hitting a dagger on the offensive end, that block toke out Kansas out of the game pretty much.

That was a nice block at the end by MKG, but it doesn't take away the fact that he was practically a non-factor in the championship game tonight. I thought he played well in the first half on both ends of the floor, though disappeared for much of the second half save for that block. I mean, when MKG isn't bringing it on the defensive end what else does he do? And developing his offense isn't exactly easy either. I like him a prospect, but not to the degree where some people overhype him.

Couldn't agree more, I don't see an All-Star player there. If he was as good as he's being touted than I feel he should be able to dominate more often.

I hope he proves me wrong but I wouldn't pick him over Robinson, Beal, Drummond or Barnes. I think he goes 5-6 in the draft.

fredericklove · Post #535 » by **fredericklove** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:58 am

sunny wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
sunny wrote:I want to apologize for my actions and posts.
I just really hate Kentucky that much and need to vent.

hahhaha, no worries, arizona will get a shot next season. And kentucky will fall back on earth next season lool, unless Cal gets both Bazz and Noel.

After seing the results with Davis, I think the key to all of this would be securing Noel.

Offence can be shut down. The impact Davis had was absolutely incredible.

If Noel joins the cats, he's going to get immense pressure and expectation, I heard the kid has attitude issue, this will not fair him well.

JN · Post #536 » by JN » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:58 am

Noel basically dictates which of Syracuse or UK will be in the top five next year,

Marlo Stanfield · Post #537 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 3:59 am

If I'm Noel I'm going to UK over Syracuse any day.

Ari_Emanuel · Post #538 » by **Ari_Emanuel** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 4:00 am

highness wrote:T Rob is a beast but does he have much upside left?

No, but that just shows you how safe a pick he is. He's an automatic double double and if he improves, it'll be as a passer, leader and on the defensive end.

By far best risk-reward player available in the draft after Davis.

sunny · Post #539 » by **sunny** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 4:01 am

Offence can be shut down. The impact Davis had was absolutely incredible.[/quote]

If Noel joins the cats, he's going to get immense pressure and expectation, I heard the kid has attitude issue, this will not fair him well.[/quote]

yup. Davis was such a level headed, cerebral player. Truly special. Although Noel might have better physical gifts, he IMO isn't anywhere near the same player as him. He also needs to gain a ton of weight. I view him as a slightly better Andre Drummond to be honest, not some amazing superstar.

KL78192020 · Post #540 » by **KL78192020** » Tue Apr 3, 2012 4:01 am

JN wrote:Let's hope this does not repeat itself next year... come on Shabazz and Nerlens, DO NOT team up for PayPal Cal.

They should take all the money they can get. What if they suffer a career ending injuring, then what. The NCAA makes billions and college guys with no intention of pursing a education get squat.

If Anthony Davis goes #1 and the Raps get the # 2 pick, who gets drafted?