Anthony Davis

[Respect My Mind]

Davis doesn't have a bulk up frame

Even Dwight and Tyson in High School would have bodied Davis. The biggest he can hope for is prime Marcus Camby body and that is not enough to be a post presence. His skill level compared to KG at the same age is laughable. I would draft him No.1 but he will NEVER be a top 10 player in the league

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I question how anyone can know this given the fact that Davis' body just went through such a huge growth spurt.

His bones allowed him to grow in height, he's still rail thin and that is never gonna change.

[Respect My Mind]

No way in hell Davis even comes close to KG on offense. He may someday (which I doubt) match the scoring numbers, but offense is more than just scoring and KG's passing puts him on another level offensively compared to even the most optimistic version of Davis I can imagine.

Another one of those things I don't know how you tell. KG's 5 APG aren't what's impressive, it's the fact that his passing made it make sense for him to be the hub for his team. This is very good, but hardly unique among bigs.

With Davis right now we see a guy who gets involved on offense all the way out to the perimeter at time, and of course someone who played guard for most of his basketball career. Kentucky chooses not to play him as that hub for a variety of reasons that I'd say are correct, but just as Davis' PPG is not at all reflective of some kind of ceiling for him, we've yet to really see what Davis capabilities will be on this passing front.

I'm totally fine with saying you can't assume Davis has that kind of potential when he hasn't shown it yet, but that's different from saying what he can't do. There's just so much we don't know about the guy on offense.

Davis doesn't have an NBA level offensive game. Compare him to guys like Kevin Love and Durant in college and his skill level on the offensive end is garbage. Even LaMarcus had skill in college

[S.W.A.N]

Davis doesn't have a bulk up frame

Even Dwight and Tyson in High School would have bodied Davis. The biggest he can hope for is prime Marcus Camby body and that is not enough to be a post presence. His skill level compared to KG at the same age is laughable. I would draft him No.1 but he will NEVER be a top 10 player in the league

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I question how anyone can know this given the fact that Davis' body just went through such a huge growth spurt.

His bones allowed him to grow in height, he's still rail thin and that is never gonna change.

You obviously don't know much about strength training or choose to ignore it because it totally invalidates your argument.

Davis will be fine, he has a decent frame that will allow him to be a decent sized PF, kind of like Bosh, and bigger than young Garnett.

[dballislife]

a bigger question is will he keep the brow in the nba?

[Doctor MJ]

Davis doesn't have a bulk up frame

Even Dwight and Tyson in High School would have bodied Davis. The biggest he can hope for is prime Marcus Camby body and that is not enough to be a post presence. His skill level compared to KG at the same age is laughable. I would draft him No.1 but he will NEVER be a top 10 player in the league

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I question how anyone can know this given the fact that Davis' body just went through such a huge growth spurt.

His bones allowed him to grow in height, he's still rail thin and that is never gonna change.

I really just doubt your experience in this.

Myself, I'm a guy who was 6'9" 195 when I was Davis age. I'm passed the age where I'm in fighting shape, but 240 would be a pretty reasonable estimate for where I'd be were I in training. My shoulders are so much broader than they used to be it's kind of ridiculous.

I also happen to be someone who grew late. When I was a 5'10" 10th grader, I wasn't skinny by any stretch of the imagination. Then I grew like crazy, without really adding that much weight, and became ridiculously thin. Eventually, it evened out again.

I'm not an expert on how other people grow, but when people talk as if there are clear rules for guys who have 1-in-a-miillion growth patterns like Davis, I'm pretty dang skeptical.

[Doctor MJ]

Davis doesn't have an NBA level offensive game. Compare him to guys like Kevin Love and Durant in college and his skill level on the offensive end is garbage. Even LaMarcus had skill in college

I think Love would smack you over the head for using him to say what a future college prospect will struggle in the pros. 4 years ago he heard nothing but naysayers about his ability for a whole slew of reasons that in retrospect were clearly completely without basis.

I'll certainly grant that Davis has a lot to get used to though, and if he has the ability to be a scoring star, Kentucky didn't really do much to prepare him for that role.

[Deathray]

Davis doesn't have an NBA level offensive game. Compare him to guys like Kevin Love and Durant in college and his skill level on the offensive end is garbage. Even LaMarcus had skill in college

I think Love would smack you over the head for using him to say what a future college prospect will struggle in the pros. 4 years ago he heard nothing but naysayers about his ability for a whole slew of reasons that in retrospect were clearly completely without basis.

I'll certainly grant that Davis has a lot to get used to though, and if he has the ability to be a scoring star, Kentucky didn't really do much to prepare him for that role.

Davis' offensive game has actually progressed a lot since the season started. The problem is that there is only so much you can do in one college season. He was very raw offensively coming out of high school. He's got a long way to go but he has improved. A big thing in his favor is that he has the right kind of attitude, that should ensure he continues to move in the right direction as his career goes on.

[cdubbz]

Another scary thing is that Anthony Davis could still be growing! He should take it light in the weight room and supplements for a year or so.

[Worm Guts]

Davis doesn't have a bulk up frame

Even Dwight and Tyson in High School would have bodied Davis. The biggest he can hope for is prime Marcus Camby body and that is not enough to be a post presence. His skill level compared to KG at the same age is laughable. I would draft him No.1 but he will NEVER be a top 10 player in the league

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I question how anyone can know this given the fact that Davis' body just went through such a huge growth spurt.

His bones allowed him to grow in height, he's still rail thin and that is never gonna change.

You're talking out of your butt. You can't judge a person's ability to gain weight just by looking at them.

[boogie-reke]

a bigger question is will he keep the brow in the nba?

Are you gonna ask that on every page on this thread from now on?

[ManualRam]

You're talking out of your butt. You can't judge a person's ability to gain weight just by looking at them.

in some cases i think you can. the player's frame is a good indication. guys with skinny bones, skinny frames with thin shoulders like brandan wright or hak warrick wont be able to put on a significant amount of weight. i think every frame has a limit as well, where any additional weight put on over the limit does not benefit the player or may even hurt the player.

[Worm Guts]

I remember reading posters say the same the thing about Joakim Noah and his narrow frame. KG and Bosh were as skinny as anybody coming into the league. None of those guys are what you call beefy now, but they all have gained significant weight and have no problem competing at the NBA level.

[ManualRam]

I remember reading posters say the same the thing about Joakim Noah and his narrow frame. KG and Bosh were as skinny as anybody coming into the league. None of those guys are what you call beefy now, but they all have gained significant weight and have no problem competing at the NBA level.

noah's frame is pretty much maxed out, yet he still has problems defending strong players and finishing through contact. any more weight and he'd lose some of his physical advantages.

if davis can get to prime KG or bosh's weight, he'll be fine at the 4.

[7-Day Dray]

^^Unlike you, I'm very wary of Davis' ability to put on weight. His arms are literally like twigs. They're basically on bone and no muscle definition. Even a guy like Dwight was skinny, but he at least had a little muscle definition to his frame and played a power-style game. And I think Boash was a little bit more muscular than Davis in HS.

Plus, lower body strength is more important for big men IMO, and you can by Davis' body isn't built to add a lot of strength in the legs.

[Worm Guts]

I'm not sure why anyone would bother with a Dwight comparison, nobody is projecting that. Bosh was listed at 6'11 210 coming out of Georgia Tech, Davis is listed at 6'10 220. I still don't buy that you can project much from someone's frame, but Davis also has a very broad chest and big frame.

[ManualRam]

^^Unlike you, I'm very wary of Davis' ability to put on weight. His arms are literally like twigs. They're basically on bone and no muscle definition. Even a guy like Dwight was skinny, but he at least had a little muscle definition to his frame and played a power-style game. And I think Boash was a little bit more muscular than Davis in HS.

Plus, lower body strength is more important for big men IMO, and you can by Davis' body isn't built to add a lot of strength in the legs.

i think that was the case last yr, but he's noticeably added more definition to his limbs before and during the yr. it's harder for longer limbed players to lift weights, but he's obviously making an effort.


lower body strength is important for big men, but more so for back to basket post players. i dont think davis will be that, only on the occasional mismatch.

[Johnlac1]

What people forget about Davis is that he also a very smart player. He might have strength issues with some players, but I don't see anyone stopping him from getting 20 pts., 10+, rbs, 3-5 asts, and 2 or 3 blk shts his rookie year if he gets 30-35 minutes a game. He's just too good.

[boogie-reke]

What people forget about Davis is that he also a very smart player. He might have strength issues with some players, but I don't see anyone stopping him from getting 20 pts., 10+, rbs, 3-5 asts, and 2 or 3 blk shts his rookie year if he gets 30-35 minutes a game. He's just too good.

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[dream_catcher_9]

What people forget about Davis is that he also a very smart player. He might have strength issues with some players, but I don't see anyone stopping him from getting 20 pts., 10+, rbs, 3-5 asts, and 2 or 3 blk shts his rookie year if he gets 30-35 minutes a game. He's just too good.

those are his prime numbers if everything goes right for him, not rookie year numbers.

[Johnlac1]

What people forget about Davis is that he also a very smart player. He might have strength issues with some players, but I don't see anyone stopping him from getting 20 pts., 10+, rbs, 3-5 asts, and 2 or 3 blk shts his rookie year if he gets 30-35 minutes a game. He's just too good.

those are his prime numbers if everything goes right for him, not rookie year numbers.

No, those are his rookie numbers. Assuming he goes to a bottom-feeder. Those nos. will look better when he's a vet. I remember when Larry Bird was a rookie, I had a co-worker who said Bird wouldn't hardly get off the bench as a rookie. I said he'd get 20-10 his first year. Bird got 20-10 his first year and bettered the pts. year by year. Davis will do the same. He might increase the brds. while the pts. stay the same, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him better both nos. after a year or two. If Davis goes to a team like Bobcats, there's no way they're not going to try to get pts. out of him. If any of the Bobcat players don't pass him the ball, they'll be gone. If I was the gm, they'd be gone. I'm not sure the present Bobcat staff knows what's going on.