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Post#1 » by StocktonShorts » Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:04 pm

With the Dwightmare continuing in Orlando, I wouldn't be surprised if Stan Van Gundy is available this summer. Odds are the Jazz wouldn't fire Corbin to hire him, but should they?
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Post#2 » by red4hf » Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:07 pm

No, they should hold out for Thibodeau...... And then offer him whatever it takes.......

I can't believe the Bulls are dragging out his contract negotiations......
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Post#3 » by Efernand » Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:36 pm

I would love to have him. Dude has been dealt a terrible hand for years and has gotten the most he could get out of it. He got screwed in Miami and now he's getting screwed in Orlando. Glad he's not taking it lying down this time.
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Post#4 » by Lava Rock Kid » Thu Apr 5, 2012 7:47 pm

I would rather wait a year and sign adelman, assuming the wolves fire him.
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Post#5 » by HolyToledo » Thu Apr 5, 2012 8:12 pm

Hard decision for me. Corbin has done a good job getting players to play hard but simply he isnt smart enough, innovative enough, nor experienced enough to help the Jazz get to the next level. He is what he is, an assistant coach. Get an experienced coach like SVG but conservative Jazz organization will not do that.
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Post#6 » by finnegan » Fri Apr 6, 2012 1:08 am

I am starting to like Cobin.
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Post#7 » by jazzgasm » Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:00 am

I say give Corbin a real season first with a full training camp and all. Then if he's still doing dumb s*** then it's time to look for a new coach.
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Post#8 » by Neon Black » Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:04 am

HolyToledo wrote:Hard decision for me. Corbin has done a good job getting players to play hard but simply he isnt smart enough, innovative enough, nor experienced enough to help the Jazz get to the next level. He is what he is, an assistant coach. Get an experienced coach like SVG but conservative Jazz organization will not do that.


Dude, really? I don't agree w/ everything the man does but to say he isn't smart...I just don't agree. I think Corbin has done a great job - this isn't the most talented Jazz team that's ever been, but it's among the most unified, and I think a lot of that is thanks to Corbin. He's a great player's coach and he's doing a great job furthering the technology and video the team uses to improve each player individually and the Jazz collectively.

Anyway, it's not going to happen, but if we didn't stick w/ Corbin then I'd love to get SVG. The only coach I'd prefer to him is probably Thib, but he ain't leaving Chi town.
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Post#9 » by Luigi » Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:36 am

Stan Van Gundy or Tom Thibodeau would be awesome.

I wonder if Corbin would be willing to take a head assistant job, a bit like Phil Johnson.

I also wonder who would cost more out of Van Gundy and Thibodeau. Van Gundy will have less leverage being run out of town, and Thibodeau is reportedly upset about contract negotiations (his team is low balling him).

Even if they did become available, I think the Jazz management sticks with Corbin. The others are better coaches, but not by that much, and they cost a lot more. Corbin has potential, too. I hated the move at first, but I'm not too upset with him anymore. I also think he'll keep improving, along with the entire coaching staff. They haven't been together very long.
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Post#10 » by red4hf » Fri Apr 6, 2012 12:35 pm

Luigi wrote:Even if they did become available, I think the Jazz management sticks with Corbin. The others are better coaches, but not by that much, and they cost a lot more.


Seriously? Van Gundy isn't a HOF Coach but he's still a solid improvement over Jerry Junior, and Thibodeau is light years ahead of Corbin, and even that doesn't say enough about how much better he is than Corbin.......
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Post#11 » by babyjax13 » Fri Apr 6, 2012 3:45 pm

I've never though SVG was a very good coach. Entertaining? Certainly, but I'd rather stick with Corbin and give him a chance next year or grab one of Thibodeau/Shaw.
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Post#12 » by MeestR » Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:55 pm

drama follows svg.

he may be smart with basketball, but with people...
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Post#13 » by Luigi » Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:29 am

red4hf wrote:
Luigi wrote:Even if they did become available, I think the Jazz management sticks with Corbin. The others are better coaches, but not by that much, and they cost a lot more.


Seriously? Van Gundy isn't a HOF Coach but he's still a solid improvement over Jerry Junior, and Thibodeau is light years ahead of Corbin, and even that doesn't say enough about how much better he is than Corbin.......


Well, we both agree they are better coaches. But what's the difference between the salaries? From the sounds of Thibodeau's negotiations, he's expecting a lot. Corbin's on a good contract, and I think management would be right to stick with him, that's all.
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Post#14 » by red4hf » Sat Apr 7, 2012 12:25 pm

Luigi wrote:
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Luigi wrote:Even if they did become available, I think the Jazz management sticks with Corbin. The others are better coaches, but not by that much, and they cost a lot more.


Seriously? Van Gundy isn't a HOF Coach but he's still a solid improvement over Jerry Junior, and Thibodeau is light years ahead of Corbin, and even that doesn't say enough about how much better he is than Corbin.......


Well, we both agree they are better coaches. But what's the difference between the salaries? From the sounds of Thibodeau's negotiations, he's expecting a lot. Corbin's on a good contract, and I think management would be right to stick with him, that's all.


That's like saying "Well Wade is going to be more expensive than Thabo Sefolosha, and Sefolosha is a good defender, so let's just stick with Sefolosha." If you have a change to get a Wade or a Thibodeau, you do it.......

Having said that, I don't think there's actually any chance the Jazz will get TT, he'll come to an agreement with the Bulls...... And we'll be stuck with Jerry Junior.....
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Post#15 » by reapaman » Sat Apr 7, 2012 1:07 pm

I'll pass on SVG but if you can get thibbs get em, forget what it will cost because he's worth it.

Also I think Brian Shaw still can be a good nba coach if given the chance. Lets be honest, you saw him drawing up more plays for Lakers the last couple years than phil did (Phil just sat and watched most of the time).

Another interesting canidate to me is Mike Budenholzer who has been a assistant for spurs since 96. He got alot of interest last summer and almost got the warriors job until jackson beat him out somehow (that is working out great).

I was never excited about a us promoting a Jerry Sloan assistant as the head coach because he probley learned many of jerry's more recent bad tendacies that I hated. I'll never forgive sloan for taking millsap out in close playoff games only to have Loozer come back in and quickly pick up one or two pointless and unneccessary fouls. Even Thibbs was smart enough in the first year to realize how crappy his defense was and how harmful he can be in high pressure moments.
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Post#16 » by Luigi » Sun Apr 8, 2012 6:26 am

red4hf wrote:That's like saying "Well Wade is going to be more expensive than Thabo Sefolosha, and Sefolosha is a good defender, so let's just stick with Sefolosha." If you have a change to get a Wade or a Thibodeau, you do it.......


I don't think those coaches are at that level, and you might end up overpaying for them. I mean, New York isn't very happy with Carmello, and he fits that pattern you are talking about. If you have a productive player on a good contract, you don't take a risk on a better player with a big overpaying risk. Yeah, if you can get Dwight, you give him a max deal. I don't think these coaches are that good in comparison.

Plus, I doubt that SVG or Thibbs would be looking to set up shop long term in Utah. They play hard ball in their contract negotiations and they have the luxury of moving around. Corbin, on the other hand, could turn out to be a long term, stable coach. And stability might be the single greatest impact an NBA coach has on the game (this is a player's league, not a coach's league)

Add to that the improvements that Corbin has been making, and we might end up with a good coach, on a good contract, looking for a long term dig. That all sound a lot better than changing things up on a young developing core, that's just starting to gel, by adding a big name coach that could be gone in the near future.
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Post#17 » by red4hf » Sun Apr 8, 2012 1:05 pm

I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one...... Basketball is one of the few sports where a Coach makes a HUGE difference on a game to game basis.......

If you have an opportunity to get a great one, and Thibodeau is that good, you do it.....
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Post#18 » by Thats_my_chippy » Sun Apr 8, 2012 3:41 pm

I would not want SVG on our sideline. He's an emotional train wreck.

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