Steve Nash Wants Long-Term Deal This Summer

[Revived]

Hey man wasn't it you that made a thread showing how the Suns have the best starting 5 compared to the rest of the league? Can you give me a link to that thread?

Thanks.

Was it a from-ashes.com article?
perhaps this one: The Best Unit in the Second Half of the Season...
or this one: Suns Starters > Heat Starters?!?

Hmm I thought there was a thread that you posted on here....but those links will do. Thanks!

[hunterxaz]

Nash hasn't shown any signs of declining. He's the best conditioned player in the NBA. Sign him for 5 years for all I care. He's a boss.

[Kerrsed]

Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns – Unrestricted

Steve Nash is playing the game rather well. Not the NBA game, but the pending free agent game. Nash who normally steers clear of anything remotely controversial has made it known that he’d like a three year deal this summer. He’s made it clear he’d be open to situations like the Miami HEAT and he’s openly commented that the talent level of the Suns would have to come up in order for him to stay.

Said another way, Nash has let the Suns know that their two year offer isn’t enough to get him to stay beyond this season and that he wants to see improvements made before he’d consider committing.

Nash talks a lot about being loyal to his teammates, but the truth of the matter is Nash has remained largely healthy in Phoenix and he’s had a lot of success even if the team has not. Nash would love to compete for a championship, but that doesn’t drive him nearly as much as it does other players.

Like Deron Williams, Nash is Phoenix’s player to lose.

Sources close to the process say the Suns have put the idea of a two year $20 million offer on the table, which is far and away more money than anyone in free agency is going to offer the 38 year old Nash. If the Suns come off the dime on a third year, the odds they are losing Nash are slim.

Nash has earned north of $119 million in his NBA career, so it’s safe to say money may not be the prime motivator and with Nash, who is quirkier than most, pegging exactly how this will go down is not easy.

The smart money says if Nash is leaving Phoenix it will be via sign and trade, the question is will anyone really offer that third year Nash is seeking, especially if it’s at a high dollar amount.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-looking-into-free-agency-2012

[Kerrsed]

So it seems we offered him 2 years @ $10M per, but are balking on a 3rd year. I dont see any team out there offering him a 3 year deal or paying him more than $10M. Honestly, i think $10M is kind of overpaying a bit.

[schnakenpopanz]

make it 3 year 24 front loade if possible.

[Kerrsed]

Cain-
Will Pacers have a look at signing Nash or Dragic in offseason? I feel comfortable with George’s development as SG and think an upgrade at PG is all we need.


Joel Brigham-
Nash in Indiana would be really, really interesting. He wants a three-year deal, though, so I don’t know if that’s something any team other than Phoenix is going to give him. Like Steve Kyler said in this morning’s AM, Nash is still Phoenix’s to lose. It’s the way it’s been for years, and I still really believe that.

As for Goran Dragic, is he really that big an upgrade over Collison? I know that it’s time to admit that DC is never going to be an All-Star, but I don’t know if either of your suggestions are real solutions to Indy’s need for depth at the point guard spot. They may have to get a little more creative than that. Won’t surprise me if that’s what they chase this offseason, though. That, and locking up Roy Hibbert long-term.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-chat-with-joel-brigham-4512

[Kerrsed]

Here's a question to ponder..... Portland currently has the #5 and 11th picks in the draft. Would you trade Nash/Warrick/Gortat for both picks/Hickson/Crawford ?

Portland gets a team to contend with for the next 3 years, we get a solid rebuilding package in a great draft.

[Fo-Real]

I think 10 per is overpaying a bit also, my offer would have been like 3yr 18 mil. If he were really interested in us being able to field a competitive team around him, 6 mil a year would be good for him, all garenteed ofcourse.

[Fo-Real]

Here's a question to ponder..... Portland currently has the #5 and 11th picks in the draft. Would you trade Nash/Warrick/Gortat for both picks/Hickson/Crawford ?

Portland gets a team to contend with for the next 3 years, we get a solid rebuilding package in a great draft.

I think they would rather give up Matthews than Crawford, since Jamal's contract is an expiring next year, and would be more tradeable and they would have to take Hack. If so, then probably yes. With 3 high picks we could really set ourselves up for the future, but do you think the Blazers would really consider that??

[Saberestar]

^^^
I'd say NO. Nash and Gortat are more valuable than that.

[YFZblu]

Here's a question to ponder..... Portland currently has the #5 and 11th picks in the draft. Would you trade Nash/Warrick/Gortat for both picks/Hickson/Crawford ?

Portland gets a team to contend with for the next 3 years, we get a solid rebuilding package in a great draft.

A couple problems with this:

-If Portland wanted Nash, and Nash wanted to go to Portland - Why wouldn't Portland just get the deal done in the off season and not give anything up?

-If Nash DOESN'T want to go to Portland, do you honestly see Phoenix forcing Nash's hand by trading him after inking him to a 3 year deal?

[Sun Scorched]

Our starters are killing everyone right now at a cost of barely more than 30 million. We could keep this starting core together for about the same price and continue killing everyone with our starters and drop 28 million on the bench.

Pretty much stopped reading at this.

Fantastic point. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[RunDogGun]

Here's a question to ponder..... Portland currently has the #5 and 11th picks in the draft. Would you trade Nash/Warrick/Gortat for both picks/Hickson/Crawford ?

Portland gets a team to contend with for the next 3 years, we get a solid rebuilding package in a great draft.

You keep forgetting that the draft happens before FA signing. So it can't happen until we sign Nash.

[Frank Lee]

The Portland board has an interesting scenario brewing... under the Steve Kerr as GM topic...

Hire Kerr as GM, D'Ant as Coach, sign NAsh... to go with Batum, Aldridge, MAthews, Hickson, 2 picks.... and the rest. Stranger things have happened, and that would be a way to obtain NAsh w/o giving up anything, and quite possibly, without being the highest bidder.

It would be the ultimate f-u for Kerr and D'Ant.

[bwgood77]

Here's a question to ponder..... Portland currently has the #5 and 11th picks in the draft. Would you trade Nash/Warrick/Gortat for both picks/Hickson/Crawford ?

Portland gets a team to contend with for the next 3 years, we get a solid rebuilding package in a great draft.

A couple problems with this:

-If Portland wanted Nash, and Nash wanted to go to Portland - Why wouldn't Portland just get the deal done in the off season and not give anything up?

-If Nash DOESN'T want to go to Portland, do you honestly see Phoenix forcing Nash's hand by trading him after inking him to a 3 year deal?

Exactly. Why wouldn't Portland just sign him outright. Steve Nash in a sign and trade makes zero sense for the acquiring team unless they are already over the cap and can't sign him outright.

And no way you give up Gortat for draft picks. Teams hope they can get a top 5-10 center in the lottery somewhere...we already have one and only pay him chump change. And we certainly don't need Hickson.....a third pf who is a second unit pf at best. And how would Crawford make sense on a rebuilding team?

[Kerrsed]

A couple problems with this:

-If Portland wanted Nash, and Nash wanted to go to Portland - Why wouldn't Portland just get the deal done in the off season and not give anything up?

-If Nash DOESN'T want to go to Portland, do you honestly see Phoenix forcing Nash's hand by trading him after inking him to a 3 year deal?

1. Uh.... because they are getting both Nash AND Gortat! They wont be the only team looking at Nash in the offseason, so they either take the chance that he picks their offer over all the others, or they give up a little value and make sure they secure him. I look at it this way, they get Nash for Crawford/Hickson and Gortat for the two picks.

2. It would depend on Nash, correct. But he has stated good things about the Blazers and Portland the past few years, and they would be true contenders with Nash and Gortat, so i dont see why he wouldnt want to go there. Nash/Matthews/Batum/Aldridge/Gortat, yeah, thats a powerhouse right there.

You keep forgetting that the draft happens before FA signing. So it can't happen until we sign Nash.

I never said the trade would happen before the draft. Money wise, it would have to happen after the draft. There have been plenty of draft picked rookies traded after the draft and before the season started, and thats what i see here. According to my most recent mock draft, i have Portland taking Drummond with the 5 pick, and Rivers with the 11 pick. Drummond would be a good rebuilding piece to fill the hole at C that Gortat leaves, and Rivers would fill the hole that we have at SG. We use our pick to take Perry Jones at SF. Crawford/Hickson/Drummond/Rivers/Jones would be a great rebuild package for us.

Crawford/??????
Rivers/Dudley
Jones/Childress
Hickson/Morris
Drummond/Frye

And thats before signing any FA's.

[bwgood77]

The Portland board has an interesting scenario brewing... under the Steve Kerr as GM topic...

Hire Kerr as GM, D'Ant as Coach, sign NAsh... to go with Batum, Aldridge, MAthews, Hickson, 2 picks.... and the rest. Stranger things have happened, and that would be a way to obtain NAsh w/o giving up anything, and quite possibly, without being the highest bidder.

It would be the ultimate f-u for Kerr and D'Ant.

Hollinger mentioned that in his chat today...though he said the Kerr and D'Antoni things would obviously not both happen....one or the other, since they disagreed and Kerr was GM when D'Antoni got the boot.

[YFZblu]

1. Uh.... because they are getting both Nash AND Gortat! They wont be the only team looking at Nash in the offseason, so they either take the chance that he picks their offer over all the others, or they give up a little value and make sure they secure him. I look at it this way, they get Nash for Crawford/Hickson and Gortat for the two picks.

2. It would depend on Nash, correct. But he has stated good things about the Blazers and Portland the past few years, and they would be true contenders with Nash and Gortat, so i dont see why he wouldnt want to go there. Nash/Matthews/Batum/Aldridge/Gortat, yeah, thats a powerhouse right there.

Giving up Nash and Gortat for picks would be an abomination of basketball. I'd rather take my chances paying Steve and spending money to fill in the gaps.

[nevetsov]

Our starters are killing everyone right now at a cost of barely more than 30 million. We could keep this starting core together for about the same price and continue killing everyone with our starters and drop 28 million on the bench.

Pretty much stopped reading at this.

Fantastic point. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I just had an epiphany - our bench owned everyone when it had Frye, Dudley (Dragic, Barbosa, Lou).

This season, Frye and Dudley start and low and behold, our starters are now the ones that own.

Could it really be that simple? Dudley and Frye = winning?

Would certainly correlate with Soles' theory of perimeter hustle/ shooting + stretch big.