"No No No, Don't Shoot" - The Byron Mullens Thread

SWedd523 · Post #181 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:34 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:You guys still think he has Brook Lopez potential?

Of course not. Mullens isn't injury prone.

Post #182 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:40 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:You guys still think he has Brook Lopez potential?

I think he still has a lot of potential and the ability to be as good as Lopez, yes.

The question is if he will realize that potential or not I guess.

Edit: Disclaimer - I have never been a fan of Lopez and don't think he's that great!

penquin11 · Post #183 » by **penquin11** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:58 pm

Byron Mullens looks like the type of guy who would star in a TV series where his only line would be some crude attempt at Redneck Humor. Seriously I would not be surprised if in meeting Mullens I found that he could only speak the line "Hey Big man Let me hold a dollar"...

Jazzy13 · Post #184 » by **Jazzy13** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:58 am

Came out of nowhere.

Tell me about this guy.

Post #185 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:13 am

I'm back on the "he's better than Brook Lopez" bandwagon.

Liver_Pooty · Post #186 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:23 am

If we somehow do get Davis than I am beginning to find myself torn between making Biyombo expendable to get a second lottery pick for a wing man and going with a Davis and Mullens front court. I would shoot myself if I saw myself say this 2 months ago.

Elden Payton · Post #187 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:41 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:If we somehow do get Davis than I am beginning to find myself torn between making Biyombo expendable to get a second lottery pick for a wing man and going with a Davis and Mullens front court. I would shoot myself if I saw myself say this 2 months ago.

Biyombo is worth a lot more than any player in this draft not named Anthony Davis.

Also as good as Mullens has been Biyombo as a prospect>>>>>>>Mullens as a prospect though Mullens is going to be very good for us.

If we get Davis I'd even start Davis/Mullens with Biyombo playing 30+ minutes a game backing up both spots, can anyone say sixth man of the year?

If Mullens can be a 16/8 guy at the 5 spot we are going to be very good.

Post #188 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:51 am

Sik Infant wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:If we somehow do get Davis than I am beginning to find myself torn between making Biyombo expendable to get a second lottery pick for a wing man and going with a Davis and Mullens front court. I would shoot myself if I saw myself say this 2 months ago.

Biyombo is worth a lot more than any player in this draft not named Anthony Davis.

But what is better for us:

Kemba - Hendo - ???? - Davis - Mully
with Biz off the bench

or

Kemba - Beal/Lamb - Hendo - Davis - Mully

I get where Liver Pooty is coming from.

advanced · Post #189 » by **advanced** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:55 am

i like Mullens as a 14ppg bench player. I think he's someone who can come in and really help the 2nd unit because he takes a lot of pressure off the backup PG since he can score from wherever. Davis and Bismack will be in there demoralizing all the opposing bigs with shot blocks and dunks and theyll have no motivation left to hustle and guard the stretch 7 footer hitting 20 foot jumpshots all over them.

sounds good in my head lol. at first I wanted Mully to gain like 15 pounds this offseason but he's showing now he can rebound and hes not totally weak. maybe he should just keep working on his range till hes a 35%+ 3pt shooter. how many teams have shooting ace 7footers? what a weapon

HornetJail · Post #190 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:05 am

If we get Davis, I want to see Biyombo, Davis, and Mullens all on the court at the same time. Just think about how awesome that would be.

penquin11 · Post #191 » by **penquin11** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:09 am

Jazzball wrote:Came out of nowhere.

Tell me about this guy.

penquin11 wrote:Byron Mullens looks like the type of guy who would star in a TV series where his only line would be some crude attempt at Redneck Humor. Seriously I would not be surprised if in meeting Mullens I found that he could only speak the line "Hey Big man Let me hold a dollar"...

done

Elden Payton · Post #192 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 8:24 am

BigSlam wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:If we somehow do get Davis than I am beginning to find myself torn between making Biyombo expendable to get a second lottery pick for a wing man and going with a Davis and Mullens front court. I would shoot myself if I saw myself say this 2 months ago.

Biyombo is worth a lot more than any player in this draft not named Anthony Davis.

But what is better for us:

Kemba - Hendo - ???? - Davis - Mully
with Biz off the bench

or

Kemba - Beal/Lamb - Hendo - Davis - Mully

I get where Liver Pooty is coming from.

I get where he's coming from too but I don't think Beal/Lamb have the upside required to trade for Biz.

I only see Mullens starting over Biyombo for as long as it takes for either Davis or Biyombo to develop a respectable post game.

My ideal lineup eventually would be Kemba+Hendo+Shabazz+Davis+Biyombo with Mully as sixth man.

ohara · Post #193 » by **ohara** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 11:41 am

Completely agree with Sik Infant. Assumng we get the #1 pick and take Davis, I would love seeing Mullens coming off the bench next season in the PF/C roles to get about 20-25 min per game. Still gets alot of PT, holds down the back up for 2 positions. He could be an extremely valuable 6th man for Charlotte. Which is awesome considering we only gave up a future 2nd for him.

penquin11 · Post #194 » by **penquin11** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 12:21 pm

Byron has probably progressed the most out of any player on our team this year. He has gone from a 1 dimensional pop and shoot player (remember when he would ALWAYS ALWAYS take that midrange shot- even if he was heavily guarded and a team-mate was open?) to a guy who seems to have a pretty solid offensive arsenal (if he can add some bulk and some post moves the guy is going to be golden) and a growing ability to both rebound and block shots/defend (though he still is sort of terrible at defending- but at least he now tries). If he can put forth a solid effort to continue to improve over the summer than really who is to say that Mully doesnt find his way into a starting job alongside Biyombo/Davis. Honestly I have been more impressed with Mully this year than I have Biyombo- and Mully is young enough to be an impact player later on in his career. Now this will likely seem stupid- and rightfully so- but would it be so wrong to sport a lineup of: (Just to see how it would work)
PG: Kemba/Wroten (if he falls there- oh and I honestly believe Wroten>Walker)
SG: Hendo
SF: Davis
PF: Mully/Biyombo
C:Biyombo/Mully

This lineup obviously has its upsides and downside- the downside being it lacks speed and is rather offensively challenged at first look. However we would absolutely dominate on the boards/blocks (its not that far a stretch to say that we would have some of the top rebounder per their respective position in our backcourt- and the size of our frontcourt would make it difficult for us to be out-rebounded there as well.) And if we were to get Wroten (a 6'5 pg who has NO major flaws in his game and can put up some pretty passes) then we would be able to play big at every position outside of Biyombo/Hendo.

Elden Payton · Post #195 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 12:26 pm

I respect your opinion penquin11 but I can't see how you've been more impressed with Mully than Biyombo?

Also no way Davis can play the three and we could possibly ruin his development by trying to do so.

We would be the worst ball handling team in the league and average 35763876583765037 turnovers a game.

captaincrunk · Post #196 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:31 pm

Guys... Mullens is not really a starter in this league. He has had some good games, and he MIGHT develop into one but he hasn't really shown he is a starter.

MBash721 · Post #197 » by **MBash721** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 6:33 pm

captaincrunk wrote:Guys... Mullens is not really a starter in this league. He has had some good games, and he MIGHT develop into one but he hasn't really shown he is a starter.

the team has 7 wins...

no one on this team has proven they should be a starter, or would be a starter on a top 4 team in either conference..... especially all the young guys

Corey Maggette is the only proven NBA caliber starter on our team.... and he's not really even that great

Bobcats just need to keep playing the young guys and letting them progress.... and keep adding young talented guys to the core in the next 2 or 3 drafts and then go from there and sort out who is a starter/bench player, keeper/should be traded, etc

I'm very very happy with Mullens' progression as a bball player from his first game to now.... he was a great pick up for a 2nd round pick....

Eoghan · Post #198 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:18 pm

I'm most impressed by Mullens' touch around the basket, he looks really smooth on those reverse layups and stuff. He just needs to develop a post-game beyond the turnaround J. He needs to learn to get to the freethrow line and make his living there b/c A)he's a god-tier FT shooter and B) scoring during a deadball is vital for crappy teams like ours.

I think it would greatly behoove him to learn two moves in particular. The Dirk Nowitzki "turnaround and pumpfake your opponent into a foul" move and the Tim Duncan "pivot and bring your arms through your opponent's arms when you go up for a shot." He shoots well enough that defenders are going to have to respect his shot.

If we draft Davis, I'd rather keep starting Mullens at the 4 and Biz at the 5 and bring Davis off the bench for his rookie year so there's less pressure and b/c our 2nd unit is awful. I mean, Mullens is turning into Andrea Bargnani at a fraction of the price. That's offensive production we need in our starting unit.

Also, just say no to trading Biz for anyone in this draft.

captaincrunk · Post #199 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 7:27 pm

Yeah Biz's potential to make a team a winner down the road is too high too ignore in my opinion.

HornetJail · Post #200 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Apr 7, 2012 8:32 pm

Interesting note: Mullens is the first Bobcat to score 30 this season.