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Post#1 » by WD » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:24 pm

Solutions Without Trades, Firings or Demotions.

Here are my solutions that does not require ANYONE getting traded or fired. Not in any particular order - feel free to add yours or mods can delete if redundant or boring.

1. Adjust the defense to include more “man to man” defense. Each of these nba players (rookies and vets) started their career playing some form of man defense. It is unreasonable to ask all of these players to adapt to THIS WAY(over helping/trapping) style of playing defense.

2. Stop asking Lebron James to “do all be all”, he is the staring SF on this team, not the part time center/PG,PF or what ever you want him to do. You’re wearing this guy down.

3. Stop wasting Lebrons energy having him guard the other teams PG. There would be less of a need if you played more man defense. This would give our PG a chance to hone their individual defensive skills instead of trying to figure out where to be on the floor, They need to always be in front of there man.

4. The bench players. especially JJ need more shot attempts per game, not necessary more minutes. More shot attempts can get and keep them in rhythm. It makes absolutely no sense for Miller/JJ/Battier to EVER pass the ball back to Lebron instead of attempting a shot.

5. Chalmers needs to stop telegraphing his passes, everyone in the stadium knows that when he brings the ball up, he’s going to pass it to Lebron.

6. UD, stop picking up your dribble each time you get the ball, and stop camping out at the top of the key waiting to screen or be screened. You did more at UF.

7. Wade, stop complaining to the refs and change your body language on the court. You’re not going to get all of the calls.

8. Bosh. stop drifting at the top of the key, you are allowed to go down on the post a little more. I understand the system got you totally confused and some of the criticism is unfounded, BUT, you signed up to play here, be more active in your overall game. If not, you know you’d be the scapegoat.

9. Lebron, stop pounding the ball and get the team into it’s offense quicker, sense for some reason you always end up with the ball.

10. Hey Heat Coach, the players really don’t understand coach speak and they may not believe that your schemes work, you are losing them slowly. Yanking cole and others in and out of the line up does not endear you to them.

Oh, can you get little excited on the sidelines, i’m just saying. You look so arrogant and stoic, it’s probably just me though.

P.S.. Taking charges hurts like h@ll, especially in the nuts.

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Post#2 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:36 pm

WD wrote:Solutions Without Trades, Firings or Demotions.

Here are my solutions that does not require ANYONE getting traded or fired. Not in any particular order - feel free to add yours or mods can delete if redundant or boring.

1. Adjust the defense to include more “man to man” defense. Each of these nba players (rookies and vets) started their career playing some form of man defense. It is unreasonable to ask all of these players to adapt to THIS WAY(over helping/trapping) style of playing defense.

2. Stop asking Lebron James to “do all be all”, he is the staring SF on this team, not the part time center/PG,PF or what ever you want him to do. You’re wearing this guy down.

3. Stop wasting Lebrons energy having him guard the other teams PG. There would be less of a need if you played more man defense. This would give our PG a chance to hone their individual defensive skills instead of trying to figure out where to be on the floor, They need to always be in front of there man.

4. The bench players. especially JJ need more shot attempts per game, not necessary more minutes. More shot attempts can get and keep them in rhythm. It makes absolutely no sense for Miller/JJ/Battier to EVER pass the ball back to Lebron instead of attempting a shot.

5. Chalmers needs to stop telegraphing his passes, everyone in the stadium knows that when he brings the ball up, he’s going to pass it to Lebron.

6. UD, stop picking up your dribble each time you get the ball, and stop camping out at the top of the key waiting to screen or be screened. You did more at UF.

7. Wade, stop complaining to the refs and change your body language on the court. You’re not going to get all of the calls.

8. Bosh. stop drifting at the top of the key, you are allowed to go down on the post a little more. I understand the system got you totally confused and some of the criticism is unfounded, BUT, you signed up to play here, be more active in your overall game. If not, you know you’d be the scapegoat.

9. Lebron, stop pounding the ball and get the team into it’s offense quicker, sense for some reason you always end up with the ball.

10. Hey Heat Coach, the players really don’t understand coach speak and they may not believe that your schemes work, you are losing them slowly. Yanking cole and others in and out of the line up does not endear you to them.

Oh, can you get little excited on the sidelines, i’m just saying. You look so arrogant and stoic, it’s probably just me though.

P.S.. Taking charges hurts like h@ll, especially in the nuts.

That’s all for now - WIN OR BUST FOR ME


all valid opints WD, the problem is - we've been asking for those things for almost 2 years. and they just dont changes (some got worst). what makes u think it will magically happen now, with no personal changes?
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Post#3 » by WD » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:45 pm

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WD wrote:Solutions Without Trades, Firings or Demotions.

Here are my solutions that does not require ANYONE getting traded or fired. Not in any particular order - feel free to add yours or mods can delete if redundant or boring.

1. Adjust the defense to include more “man to man” defense. Each of these nba players (rookies and vets) started their career playing some form of man defense. It is unreasonable to ask all of these players to adapt to THIS WAY(over helping/trapping) style of playing defense.

2. Stop asking Lebron James to “do all be all”, he is the staring SF on this team, not the part time center/PG,PF or what ever you want him to do. You’re wearing this guy down.

3. Stop wasting Lebrons energy having him guard the other teams PG. There would be less of a need if you played more man defense. This would give our PG a chance to hone their individual defensive skills instead of trying to figure out where to be on the floor, They need to always be in front of there man.

4. The bench players. especially JJ need more shot attempts per game, not necessary more minutes. More shot attempts can get and keep them in rhythm. It makes absolutely no sense for Miller/JJ/Battier to EVER pass the ball back to Lebron instead of attempting a shot.

5. Chalmers needs to stop telegraphing his passes, everyone in the stadium knows that when he brings the ball up, he’s going to pass it to Lebron.

6. UD, stop picking up your dribble each time you get the ball, and stop camping out at the top of the key waiting to screen or be screened. You did more at UF.

7. Wade, stop complaining to the refs and change your body language on the court. You’re not going to get all of the calls.

8. Bosh. stop drifting at the top of the key, you are allowed to go down on the post a little more. I understand the system got you totally confused and some of the criticism is unfounded, BUT, you signed up to play here, be more active in your overall game. If not, you know you’d be the scapegoat.

9. Lebron, stop pounding the ball and get the team into it’s offense quicker, sense for some reason you always end up with the ball.

10. Hey Heat Coach, the players really don’t understand coach speak and they may not believe that your schemes work, you are losing them slowly. Yanking cole and others in and out of the line up does not endear you to them.

Oh, can you get little excited on the sidelines, i’m just saying. You look so arrogant and stoic, it’s probably just me though.

P.S.. Taking charges hurts like h@ll, especially in the nuts.

That’s all for now - WIN OR BUST FOR ME


all valid opints WD, the problem is - we've been asking for those things for almost 2 years. and they just dont changes (some got worst). what makes u think it will magically happen now, with no personal changes?

I KNOW, but go ahead and add a few yourself, I am sure I missed some
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Post#4 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:47 pm

oh and about Bosh - i really believe he's trying his best...that's the sad part - he just cant "play big" in this roster with this coach. it's just not happning. reasons are :

1.his natural skillset (outside game, no back to basket game, likes jumps shots, no great defender)
2.his physical shape (he's just not the same player he was in his best seasons, just look at him..he's a skinny injured looking player out there, no lift either..this issue i have no doubt will pop up in the media some time in the future)
3.the lack of a helping system/coaching.
4. the lack of Dominant big Center that could camouflage his wicknesses.

That's why i came to the conclusion that we have no other choise but trading him for the pieaces we need. he's not going to be a good rebounder/defensive/tough big. never. it's not about wanting, he just cant. he's a bad fit here.
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Post#5 » by radikalBaller » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:48 pm

We are stuck with Spo, he will coach this team until he decides that it's time for him to retire. Wasting the Big 3's prime and failing to win it all is not of his concerns, deal with it, he is untouchable. After he retires, he will promote mini Spo aka his son with Sarah Palin to make sure that the Heat culture stays in good hands.
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Post#6 » by CablexDeadpool » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:29 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:oh and about Bosh - i really believe he's trying his best...that's the sad part - he just cant "play big" in this roster with this coach. it's just not happning. reasons are :

1.his natural skillset (outside game, no back to basket game, likes jumps shots, no great defender)
2.his physical shape (he's just not the same player he was in his best seasons, just look at him..he's a skinny injured looking player out there, no lift either..this issue i have no doubt will pop up in the media some time in the future)
3.the lack of a helping system/coaching.
4. the lack of Dominant big Center that could camouflage his wicknesses.

That's why i came to the conclusion that we have no other choise but trading him for the pieaces we need. he's not going to be a good rebounder/defensive/tough big. never. it's not about wanting, he just cant. he's a bad fit here.


Bosh has a back to a basket game, and Bosh seriously was never this strictly jumpshooting big man. Bosh used to be a pick and roll big man with a jumpshot and a finesse post game.

Reason why his physique isn't as beefy and etc they got the boy rotating and guarding pick and rolls, he puts on some weight he isn't gonna be able to do all of that. Plus his physique shouldn't stop him from rebounding look at KG, it's the scheme and he doesn't have the natural motor to be a dominant rebounder.

Bosh is a great man to man defender and pick and roll defender, but he's not a patrolling the court, swatting everything in his path big man.

I rather keep Bosh. And just trade Shane and Mike Miller.

But this is WD's thread without demotions and trades so lets not just derail his thread. :D
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Post#7 » by Chosen01 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:38 pm

I don't know whats with Bosh, it's as if his aggression left as he lost his dreds...Look how he actually boxes out HARD in this video

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULYClcERLZc[/youtube]
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Post#8 » by CablexDeadpool » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:44 pm

Chosen01 wrote:I don't know whats with Bosh, it's as if his aggression left as he lost his dreds...Look how he actually boxes out HARD in this video

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULYClcERLZc[/youtube]


Don't you know that the Heat organization will kill your spirit and break you down into a lesser player just so they can make you do what they want lmao..... :lol:

I think that was after he put on some muscle that year and straight demolished opposing PFs...

And you have to understand that Bosh was playing with some weak rebounders...Wade Lebron and Haslem are strong rebounders, he's not gonna be getting 10 boards a game.
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Post#9 » by WD » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:34 pm

Our system is like running FLASH on a smart phone, sure it will work(old system) but it will not work on an iPhone(new system) - the rules have changed, flash is being replaced by HTML5,but we still program(run defensive schemes) in flash.

We all are HEAT fans and have a variety of passion for the team and its players. I watch the games to see the big 3 ball out, but I also was excited at the beginning of the season to see Cole break out. I am coming to the reality that, what I want/expect is not a reality until the current regime changes or is no longer here.

Since I do not directly affect the bottom line, my opinions probably do not matter. I hope that someone in the organization peeks at this board form time to time and steal a few ideas, but then again why would they.

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Post#10 » by WD » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:35 pm

trying to stay positive
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Post#11 » by iboxlefty » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:42 pm

This defense is wearing guys down, not everyone can play it. Bosh is slow now. Mix the defense up, play more man, some zone and trap sporadically depending on opponent
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Post#12 » by WD » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:58 pm

Have TimBug actually work with the PG on this team instead of media relations or whatever BS they have him doing

Have ZO actually work with the BIGS in THIS SYSTEM instead of the other media related BS they have him doing.
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Post#13 » by RhapidKid » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:15 pm

WD wrote:Have TimBug actually work with the PG on this team instead of media relations or whatever BS they have him doing

Have ZO actually work with the BIGS in THIS SYSTEM instead of the other media related BS they have him doing.

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Post#14 » by WD » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:30 pm

I am borrowing these from a report I read(summarize to save space)

5 Fixes Miami Heat Need to Be Unstoppable

1. Start Bosh at 5 - One of the primary reasons the Boston Celtics have found such unlikely success is their move of Kevin Garnett to the five. In starting Chris Bosh at the five, the Heat would be able to place LeBron James at the four. His size and athleticism enables him to defend the position while his quickness, power and perimeter prowess makes him a terror for any player attempting to defend him.

2. Point Guard, Not Point Forward - LeBron James may be an excellent ball handler, as well as an excellent facilitator, but there's a difference between statistical greatness and an overall effect on your team. For instance, LeBron James had a plus/minus rating of minus-four against the Celtics. Meanwhile, Dwyane Wade registered a plus-eight.

In other words, the Heat actually played better without LeBron James on the floor. With James on the bench, the Heat cut the Celtics' lead from 89-81 to 91-89. Once James came back on the floor, the Celtics extended that lead to 102-91.

This is not a once-in-a-season occurrence.

Want further proof? Players ahead of him in assists per game include John Wall, Jose Calderon and Raymond Felton. All three of those players are not going to make the playoffs.

The fact is, a championship team is not built around one or three players; it's built around a system. Currently, the only system LeBron James employs is attacking the basket and hoping for open teammates if he can't find a lay-in.

Give the ball to a true point guard and let him do his job.

3. Extend Playing Time for Key Role Players - As the playoffs approach, it's imperative that the Miami Heat have clearly defined roles for the players who will help them win a championship. While most would expect those players to be Bosh, James and Wade, they're actually the role players who make the wheels turn on this Lamborghini.

Sharpshooters James Jones and Mike Miller have both suffered from injuries and a decline in playing time—something the Heat must adjust. They're easily the best two three-point shooters on the team, something that Dallas showed us can be pivotal in the pursuit of a title.

Furthermore, rookie Norris Cole has gone from a player who thrives on opportunity to a player who receives no chances at all. For the Heat to stand a chance in defeating a team like the Boston Celtics, they must possess depth at the point guard position.

Cole is the perfect player for that role.

4. Dwyane Wade Must Be the Closer - LeBron James has two MVP awards, a scoring title and is an eight-time All-Star. Know what he isn't? A former NBA Champion.

Dwyane Wade is.

While LeBron James' season has been absolutely magnificent, his history in the postseason has been far from stellar. Even if it had been, Dwyane Wade is the player who took the Miami Heat on his back and won an NBA title in 2006.

In the 2011 postseason, Wade's statistics were not as flashy as LeBron's but his play was much more efficient. He came up with defensive play after defensive play, including blocked jump shots and timely steals. He also lived up to the nickname Flash with his beautiful plays in transition, also hitting his signature circus shots on quite a few occasions.

What Wade did most, however, was come up in the clutch against the Mavericks. Just don't forget that it was LeBron laughing as he approached Wade after the corner three, not Wade laughing back.

5. Replace Erik Spoelstra(oops) - Don't get me wrong, I love the guy; he has a brilliant basketball mind and is talented enough to win an NBA title. But the fact is, he doesn't seem to have much control of his team and it often appears that plays are more on-the-fly than planned and practiced.
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Post#15 » by BigDaddyPR » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:35 pm

I agree a lot on the stop wasting Lebron energy on guarding the PG. Related to that, i think Spo needs to invert the rotation in the second half with Wade and Lebron. Rest Lebron midways thru the 3rd qtr and let him finish the whole 4th, Wade should be rested when Lebron is, in the beginning of the 4th. Lebrons needs to be in rhythm to be effective, and 7 mins or so in the 4th are not enough, specially with Wade already warm and with the offense runing thru him. I think with enough rest in the third and not using him as much as the main defensive stopper Lebron can be effective throughout the whole 4th....
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Post#16 » by BigDaddyPR » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:40 pm

Do not agree with 4 and 5 of that report.

Lebron should be the player with the ball in the last possesions. Maybe not the one taking the shot necessarily, but creating.

Spo is not the best coach in the world, but he is doing a decent job. Theres nothing he can do if the players are not giving the 100% they should. Our problem lately has been the defense, not the offense, and we know spo is a great defensive coach. So if the problem right now is the D, that cant be on the coach, imo thats on the players. Last year we were a beastly team on the defensive side, maybe that team will come back on the playoffs, but i honestly dont think Spo is the problem right now..
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Post#17 » by CablexDeadpool » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:13 pm

BigDaddyPR wrote:Do not agree with 4 and 5 of that report.

Lebron should be the player with the ball in the last possesions. Maybe not the one taking the shot necessarily, but creating.

Spo is not the best coach in the world, but he is doing a decent job. Theres nothing he can do if the players are not giving the 100% they should. Our problem lately has been the defense, not the offense, and we know spo is a great defensive coach. So if the problem right now is the D, that cant be on the coach, imo thats on the players. Last year we were a beastly team on the defensive side, maybe that team will come back on the playoffs, but i honestly dont think Spo is the problem right now..


Spo is the problem because last year their defense was overwhelming, this year, it's extremely beatable and it routinely gets exploited by smart coaches.

Second this is, the offense has changed drastically because of Spo's mindnumbing rotations. Cole not playing has moved Lebron to point forward once again. It has led to Lebron and Wade upping their 3 point shots intake.

Lebron is getting further and further away from the post and it is Spo's fault because he doesn't have another point guard. He has to play Cole.

Giving Cole 20 minutes a game isnt' gonna kill him. Running some pick and rolls with Bosh isn't gonna kill Spo.
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Post#18 » by Pimpwerx » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:47 pm

Step1: Relax
Step2: Take a chill pill
Step3: ???
Step4: Get wasted at the championship parade

I've already reserved a spot on Biscayne Blvd. If you doubters wait too long, you're gonna have to watch from a boat in the bay. PEACE.
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Post#19 » by cb1 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:04 pm

Pimpwerx wrote:Step1: Relax
Step2: Take a chill pill
Step3: ???
Step4: Get wasted at the championship parade

I've already reserved a spot on Biscayne Blvd. If you doubters wait too long, you're gonna have to watch from a boat in the bay. PEACE.

I wish i had this guy's compusure and calm never panic attitude
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Post#20 » by cb1 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:06 pm

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BigDaddyPR wrote:Do not agree with 4 and 5 of that report.

Lebron should be the player with the ball in the last possesions. Maybe not the one taking the shot necessarily, but creating.

Spo is not the best coach in the world, but he is doing a decent job. Theres nothing he can do if the players are not giving the 100% they should. Our problem lately has been the defense, not the offense, and we know spo is a great defensive coach. So if the problem right now is the D, that cant be on the coach, imo thats on the players. Last year we were a beastly team on the defensive side, maybe that team will come back on the playoffs, but i honestly dont think Spo is the problem right now..


Spo is the problem because last year their defense was overwhelming, this year, it's extremely beatable and it routinely gets exploited by smart coaches.

Second this is, the offense has changed drastically because of Spo's mindnumbing rotations. Cole not playing has moved Lebron to point forward once again. It has led to Lebron and Wade upping their 3 point shots intake.

Lebron is getting further and further away from the post and it is Spo's fault because he doesn't have another point guard. He has to play Cole.

Giving Cole 20 minutes a game isnt' gonna kill him. Running some pick and rolls with Bosh isn't gonna kill Spo.

You have to ask yourself why has it become exploitable though when it used to be overwhelming. Doc Rivers had 5 games to figure it out in the playoffs last year and it didn't look like he did so why has he now?

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