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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#41 » by K_ick_God » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:03 pm

Newsflash: Marbury is playing against nobody. His NBA game was trash four years ago -- on every team he went to, not just New York. He hasn't magically regained his game four years later. He's magically playing against bums.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#42 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:06 pm

Knicks_Blood10 wrote:He did quit on us, but D'Antoni did immediately put him in the dog house when he began coaching here. All I'm saying is that he'd be much better than Baron Davis. We have no penetration anymore, we need some help at PG. I was just fooling around when I asked him but we do need help at the PG position with Lin out.


Im no big fan of Marbury's but to be honest, the fans and the media quit on him much ealier than he ever quit on the team. For all his fallacies (and he had a lot, a lot of them) he always competed and played hard even with the boo's and the cat calls and the accusations (Anti-Christ?) that were raining on him as the poster child of the Knicks struggles. That's NY media and NY fans for ya. Wasn't really towards the end that it was clear that he had mailed it in...after the whole Thomas scandal and culminating with D'Antoni apparently promising him one thing (a fair shot at starting and Marbury coming in in great shape and apparently focused) and then doing something else (doghouse almost as soon as the season started). By no means was Marbury the most cerebral, charismatic or cordial player, nor was he obviously a leader of men, but honestly, he got a lot more crap dumped on him than he deserved. Basketball's a team game...but he was definitely singled out as THE BIGGEST reason for the Knicks struggles when he was here (instead of lack of talent, coaching upheavel and turmoil, injuries and crap GM'ing). Sure he didn't help himself with the eye rolls at his sucky teammates and the towel wearing but what he got was nuts.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#43 » by alphad0gz » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:07 pm

The dumbest thing about this entire thread is that it is based on someone's belief that a Tweet from a fan could possibly have anything at all to do with a player's decisions. All the OP did was make Starbury think he(Starbury) matters. He doesn't.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#44 » by GONYK » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:28 pm

You can tell a lot about a person based on whether or not they think bringing Marbury back is a good idea
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Post#45 » by lataflava00 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:32 pm

you guys have very short term memory.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#46 » by ccvle » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:33 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Knicks_Blood10 wrote:He did quit on us, but D'Antoni did immediately put him in the dog house when he began coaching here. All I'm saying is that he'd be much better than Baron Davis. We have no penetration anymore, we need some help at PG. I was just fooling around when I asked him but we do need help at the PG position with Lin out.


Im no big fan of Marbury's but to be honest, the fans and the media quit on him much ealier than he ever quit on the team.


Exactly. D'antoni stopped playing him for NO explained reasons. None of his teammates stood up for him. Then after the Knicks traded away half of the team, D'antoni wanted and needed Marbury to play.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#47 » by GONYK » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:34 pm

BBALLER4FR wrote:What is wrong with some of you guys? Everybody was shouting "Savior!" from the rooftops for Baron Davis. If you can honestly say that right now you'd prefer watching this 32 year old version of Baron Davis starting over this 35 year old version of Stephon Marbury you're nuts. Maybe Jeremy Lin is the future of the Knicks but it's not set in stone with Melo here. And that's nothing to do with Melo's effort but more to do with the night and day production you get from him with vs. with Lin and Amare on the floor. Marbury (if he wanted to come back) would be relatively cheap, is always healthy and he still plays at a very high level. Better than Kidd, Davis, Bibby, Fisher or any other veteran PG around his age. I would take Marbury 100 times right now of Baron Davis.


Honestly, when is the last time you saw Marbury play?
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#48 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:40 pm

BBALLER4FR wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:this is a hysterical


in truth he'd be perfect

end of career, looking for a ring, just lead his team to a championship in China, a position we are in desperate need for help at, in shape, etc

the funny thing is that with all that stuff we'd still rather play an shadow of Baron Davis, a joke in Douglas and Bibby and a bandaid in Shumpert at point than bring him in and offer him redemption


thats an emotional response though.
It might be a smart move to offer him a chance to fix his legacy and relationship with the NY fans but coming here, playing off the bench, and being a limited role player


if he were a grown up he would do it and he'd be ideal

but hes not


This is the perfect response up until the last sentence. It's not that he's NOT grown up. He's just very bitter. I'd be bitter too if the team I dreamed about playing for had a front office and coaching staff who did everything to ensure failure, never got on the same page and turned a city on me. Larry Brown should've NEVER been allowed to do what he did and Mike D'Antoni should have never been in the position to halt Marbury's career in favor of Chris Duhon. NEVER. I'd be bitter too and it would take a lot for me to let that go. That said, he really should let that go.



I agree that Brown has a ton of fault in the Marbury story and Id argue that D'Antoni was right to make the separation from Marbury when he did, with Marbury already going ape in the media and years of bad blood

However I think Marbury's locker room and on court ego is too big for him to co-exist in this team

Its worth mentioning agin though that all the players and coaching staff - except for Herb - have left since Marbury's time
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#49 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:41 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Newsflash: Marbury is playing against nobody. His NBA game was trash four years ago -- on every team he went to, not just New York. He hasn't magically regained his game four years later. He's magically playing against bums.

one could argue the same points about Baron Davis as Marbury
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#50 » by GONYK » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:44 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Newsflash: Marbury is playing against nobody. His NBA game was trash four years ago -- on every team he went to, not just New York. He hasn't magically regained his game four years later. He's magically playing against bums.

one could argue the same points about Baron Davis as Marbury


How? Davis is in the NBA.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#51 » by Getouttahea22 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:46 pm

This might sound silly, but is it possible that Marbury is happy where he is and simply doesn't want to play in the NBA anymore? If so, perhaps people should respect that. There is, after all, more to life than the NBA.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#52 » by N8isScofield » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:06 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I'd rather die in a fire than watch Stephon Marbury wear a Knick uniform ever again.

If there's a bad culture that surrounds the Knicks, it's not from Dolan. It's from New York, the crazy fans, the idiotic media, etc.

This.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#53 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:08 pm

GONYK wrote:
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KnicksGod wrote:Newsflash: Marbury is playing against nobody. His NBA game was trash four years ago -- on every team he went to, not just New York. He hasn't magically regained his game four years later. He's magically playing against bums.

one could argue the same points about Baron Davis as Marbury


How? Davis is in the NBA.


well, I mean one could have argued those points this summer

the cancer, washed up, etc arguments
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#54 » by Retired_Doc » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:31 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Newsflash: Marbury is playing against nobody. His NBA game was trash four years ago -- on every team he went to, not just New York. He hasn't magically regained his game four years later. He's magically playing against bums.


That is correct, and I'm shocked many ppl here somehow, someway forget Marbury's last year in the NBA.
Tanking again, I suppose. Is there any other way?
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#55 » by GONYK » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:32 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:well, I mean one could have argued those points this summer

the cancer, washed up, etc arguments


Except that Baron was still productive. I argued against Davis initially, before we got him. At the same time though, I would take last year's Baron Davis before I would take Marbury in his final year in the NBA.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#56 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:34 pm

NOODLESTYLE wrote:Would he be eligible for the playoffs?


He's technically been a free agent (as far as playoff eligibility goes), so yes.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#57 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:39 pm

GONYK wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:well, I mean one could have argued those points this summer

the cancer, washed up, etc arguments


Except that Baron was still productive. I argued against Davis initially, before we got him. At the same time though, I would take last year's Baron Davis before I would take Marbury in his final year in the NBA.


But that's not really the point of this thread is it? This thread isn't about whether you would have the Marbury from his NBA final season vs. Baron Davis when he was playing last season. It's about whether a guy like Marbury is a better option than rather useless guys like Mike Bibby and Toney Douglas.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#58 » by bklynstoops » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:41 pm

cool thread. can someone tweet Anthony Davis to get drafted by the Knicks? someone else tweet Donnie Walsh to come back as GM.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#59 » by GONYK » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:42 pm

moocow007 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:well, I mean one could have argued those points this summer

the cancer, washed up, etc arguments


Except that Baron was still productive. I argued against Davis initially, before we got him. At the same time though, I would take last year's Baron Davis before I would take Marbury in his final year in the NBA.


But that's not really the point of this thread is it? This thread isn't about whether you would have the Marbury from his NBA final season vs. Baron Davis when he was playing last season. It's about whether a guy like Marbury is a better option than rather useless guys like Mike Bibby and Toney Douglas.


I agree, but there is no proof Marbury is better than Bibby or Douglas, as weird as that sounds, since he's playing in China and nobody has seen him up against NBA comp in years.
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Re: Asked Stephon Marbury To Come Back To Knicks via Twitter 

Post#60 » by kane » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:42 pm

even if he had anything left (and thats a long shot) he would bring to much drama and be to big of a distraction to add anything of value with so few games left, theres other PGs floating around out there that wouldn't be so much of a gamble

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