Game 59: Suns (30-28) @ Rockets (32-26)

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However, I will follow Miklo's warning, and refrain from making him look like a fool.

Is this about me? Because if so, I'm pretty offended because I'm not some 14 year old kid. I don't need anyone else watching my back for me.

[RunDogGun]

However, I will follow Miklo's warning, and refrain from making him look like a fool.

Is this about me? Because if so, I'm pretty offended because I'm not some 14 year old kid. I don't need anyone else watching my back for me.

No it wasn't about you.

As far as the Telfail thing. I clearly said that he was taking similar shots. You came back at me with a question about me saying he was taking large amounts of shots, and even posted how many shots he was taking. So I responded with, you should read better,because I never said anything about any amount of shots. You responded with, "You should learn how to read what you write".

So not only did you make a mistake, you compounded it with another mistake. Now if you don't know what similar means, then I can understand your mistake as just a misunderstanding of word meanings, and leave it at that.

However, many of our altercations are due to you not reading what I write, and arguing things I never say. That bothers me, and usually brings out my inner smart arse.

[Revived]

So your point was that Telfair was taking bad shots earlier in the season, and missing them and that he's still taking bad shots but he just happens to make them now?

[RunDogGun]

So your point was that Telfair was taking bad shots earlier in the season, and missing them and that he's still taking bad shots but he just happens to make them now?

Well not so much bad shots, but rushed shots, with little regard to the flow of the offense. But your assessment (question) is pretty close.

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Well I'll agree with you that in the beginning of the season Telfair did spoil the flow of the offense because he looked primarily to create for himself and that's it. Now he's starting to play more like a PG (hence the increase in assist #s) and seems more confident in his shots. Flow of the offense from the bench unit has been really good ever since Hill got hurt and Brown got moved up to the A unit.

But yea I guess I misunderstood you in the other thread. My apologies again...

[harshey1388]

Telfairs play from the start of the season to now is VASTLY different. I was very critical of him early but now am just as impressed with his play. I think even our fellow poster grumpy would agree.

[albasuna]

I hate Gentry so much. Seriously, our bench is playing well and we have a game tomorrow against the Spurs...don't you think its a good idea to keep the bench in to finish the game so the starters are rested for tomorrow against an elite team like San Antonio?

He did the SAME exact thing against the Grizzlies and the Nuggets. Both games that we lost. He took the bench out when they were playing well and guess what? The starters got killed and we lost the game. I know we're not the most talented team out there but we can do a lot better with a HC that's not a tool like Gentry.

How the hell did Gentry EVER become a HC in the NBA? No wonder his record before he came to the Suns is piss poor.

Was watching the Bulls/Heat highlights and noticed that the Bulls coach left their bench in for the last minute of regulation and the entirety of overtime. Why can't Gentry do the same when the bench is outplaying the starters??

[nevetsov]

Telfairs play from the start of the season to now is VASTLY different. I was very critical of him early but now am just as impressed with his play. I think even our fellow poster grumpy would agree.

Definitely. I would even be happy picking up his $1.6m option even if we keep Brooks as the primary backup. Telfair seems to have that whole 'chip on my shoulder' attitude and even as a 3rd stringer I would bet he'd still keep Brooks honest in practice.

Having both Brooks and Telfair would enable us to rest Nash more, plus it doubles as cheap insurance in case of injury.

[RunDogGun]

Telfairs play from the start of the season to now is VASTLY different. I was very critical of him early but now am just as impressed with his play. I think even our fellow poster grumpy would agree.

Well from what I have seen and from Telfair's own words, is either he has ignored Gentry and has pushed the ball up the court faster and to his own liking, or Gentry has excepted Telfair's style and has allowed him more room to do what he sees fit. Either way, it is working for most of the games recently.

Our whole bench has improved, and with Redd coming around with his shots, it isn't surprising that Telfair's assist have gone up. Also, Chilldress two point percentage is awesome, so any passes to him as a shot increases those assists. Now that Hill is back, and Chilldress is out of the rotation, we will see how that affects those assists. However, I was impressed with a few of Telfair's passes recently. But I also was impressed with a few of Price's passes earlier in the season, when he was allowed to run the offense.

Hopefully Gentry will not put Brown, Telfair, and Redd altogether in a line up.

The whole team's play is vastly different from the beginning of the season.

[harshey1388]

Telfairs play from the start of the season to now is VASTLY different. I was very critical of him early but now am just as impressed with his play. I think even our fellow poster grumpy would agree.

Definitely. I would even be happy picking up his $1.6m option even if we keep Brooks as the primary backup. Telfair seems to have that whole 'chip on my shoulder' attitude and even as a 3rd stringer I would bet he'd still keep Brooks honest in practice.

Having both Brooks and Telfair would enable us to rest Nash more, plus it doubles as cheap insurance in case of injury.

It sounds like we dont anticipate Brooks coming back and he doesn't want to come back to the suns. Unless I am wrong but most recent stuff I read pointed in that direction.

[swe_suns]

Some observations from last night...

-Hill was awesome in his first game back. I know that he messed up with some shots late in the 4th but most of those shots were the result of Nash trying to create something for 18s and then dumping the ball to Hill for a bail out shot. On the other hand his defense was superb. He drew a couple of charges and literally took the ball away from Lowry on a fast break.

-Nash was very passive during the first half. He came alive in the 3rd quarter with 10 pts and another 8 pts in the 4th. Since shooting a lot probably takes a lot of energy I believe that he intentionally saves himself for the second half. You could argue that he should try to get himself going early but Nash is such a terrific shooter that I don't think he even needs many attempts to get going.

-Dudley was awesome. He saved a crucial 2v1 fastbreak alley-oop in the first half. During the 3rd quarter he made a 3, then got a ridiculous flagrant foul against him but on the posession after that he made a wide open 3. Then he had another wide open 3 but pumpfaked and dumped it to Gortat right under the basket showing how smart he is with his shot selection. Do I need to mention that he iced the game with another 3?

-Telfair and Redd was playing really well. Telfair's defense on Dragic was tremendous disrupting the whole Houston offense and Redd managed to know down some jumpers while at the same time getting us to the line early.

Just a overall great game by the Suns.

[DRK]

The Brooks thing? Do you want me to accept your apology or something? If so sure I accept it. But yea I mentioned it in the thread to the LBC guy cause I didn't see your apology post and I felt like people (not just you) were all hating on him for no reason. And the Telfair thing I still didn't understand what point you were trying to make so I figured I'm not im not intellectual enough to figure it out so I dropped it.

We're all fans of the same damn team here, and while this season has been frustrating, there is no need to take it out on fellow Suns fans. (I'm not just saying this to you, but to all the Suns fans on here)

I assume that you are referring to me, and that's fine.

It not like our "hating" is unwarranted. When a group of posters who have been here a long time begin to "hate" on a fellow poster it's usually because that "fellow" poster has done something that has been of an irritance or a nuisance.

You cannot seriously, by looking through this "fellow poster's" posts say that he has done nothing to warrant such reactions towards his posts. They are baseless, opinionate statements with no factual evidence to back it up. Most of this "fellow poster's" posts seem to be of the kind that was intended to provoke a response/retaliation by other posters; by trying to inflict verbal offence through the use of name-calling or stereotypes.

I do respect all posters on this board, even this "fellow poster." I enjoy the verbal "jousting" to which fellow posters on this board engage in. It brings life to the conversation and is what makes RealGM what it is.... A bunch of fans enjoying basketball, and enjoying "taking the mickey" out of each other.

Sure, I am not going to say that I havent tried to insult another poster on this board..... and many of you are the same. But you cannot deny the fact that this "certain poster" did nothing to provoke such responses.

It's what families do!