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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#821 » by Stun704 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:39 am

Jaruff why do you hate Kemba Walker? this man is the only rookie with a triple double, he belongs in on the strength of that alone
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#822 » by Jaruff » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:18 am

Stun704 wrote:Jaruff why do you hate Kemba Walker? this man is the only rookie with a triple double, he belongs in on the strength of that alone


I don't hate him. I just realize he's not ready this year, just like Baron Davis wasn't ready his first year. I think he's better than Knight but he's not better than Knight this year.

Terrence Williams had a triple-double as a rookie too. Doesn't mean anything. One game out of 66 doesn't qualify someone for ROY unless they do something amazing; quadruple-double, 50+ points, etc.

A triple-double? It's nice but it's not uncommon.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#823 » by Stun704 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:21 am

Jaruff wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Jaruff why do you hate Kemba Walker? this man is the only rookie with a triple double, he belongs in on the strength of that alone


I don't hate him. I just realize he's not ready this year, just like Baron Davis wasn't ready his first year. I think he's better than Knight but he's not better than Knight this year.

Terrence Williams had a triple-double as a rookie too. Doesn't mean anything. One game out of 66 doesn't qualify someone for ROY unless they do something amazing; quadruple-double, 50+ points, etc.

A triple-double? It's nice but it's not uncommon.

if its common why is he the only rookie with it? and why does only 10 different players have one this year?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#824 » by fatlever » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:39 pm

stun, you are putting way too much weight into that triple double. its was a great game and a nice accomplishment, but at the end of the day, its just one game. it doesnt mean anything. boris diaw had a triple double for us and he was god awful for us the past two years.
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Post#825 » by HornetJail » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:01 pm

Jaruff wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Jaruff why do you hate Kemba Walker? this man is the only rookie with a triple double, he belongs in on the strength of that alone


I don't hate him. I just realize he's not ready this year, just like Baron Davis wasn't ready his first year. I think he's better than Knight but he's not better than Knight this year.

Terrence Williams had a triple-double as a rookie too. Doesn't mean anything. One game out of 66 doesn't qualify someone for ROY unless they do something amazing; quadruple-double, 50+ points, etc.

A triple-double? It's nice but it's not uncommon.
Brandon Jennings had 55 points as a rookie. I wouldn't have given him ROY. You have to look at the big picture. Kemba has been inconsistent, but has put on some nice performances this season, whereas Kyrie Irving, when healthy has consistently put up solid numbers. ROY depends on all the other players in the draft class. Irving has easily had a better season than Kemba and anyone else in this shallow rookie class.
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Post#826 » by ohara » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:52 pm

I swear I dont get all the hate here thrown on our two Rookies. They come in on an abbreviated pre season with little practice, and have to play on the worst team in the NBA. And rather than look at all the promise they bring, the hustle and effort, half the people here $hit on them. Kemba and Biyombo have both had excellent games, and bad games. So have every Rookie this season. Half of the posts here give off the vibe of being posted by Orlando or Atlanta fans, not Charlotte fans. If we do get the #1 pick in the Draft, I hate to see what so many will say when Davis has his first bad game for us.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#827 » by amcoolio » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:22 pm

Kemba will be fine with more pieces/better coaching. Both he and Biyombo have had literally no practices this season. Judge him after 2013 at least
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Post#828 » by thruthefire » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:45 pm

ohara wrote:I swear I dont get all the hate here thrown on our two Rookies.


It's not really hate, but whatever.
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Post#829 » by captaincrunk » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:25 pm

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captaincrunk wrote:DJ is more of an outside shooter and has been a good playmaker for us the last two years so it's hard to argue with DJ.

DJA & Kemba shoot 3-pointers (made & attempted) at pretty much the same clip. You don't even make sense trying to use that argument.

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Post#830 » by KembaWalker » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:15 pm

Kemba has been the brighest spot of this team. Not that thats saying much.
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Post#831 » by SWedd523 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:47 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Kemba has been the brighest spot of this team. Not that thats saying much.

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Post#832 » by KembaWalker » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:50 pm

Bismack's been a bright spot relative to the assumption we had that he'd be playing in the ACB again this year or fouling out every 10 minutes. He's still got a long way to go to be a good NBA player
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Post#833 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:47 pm

I don't think there has been one bright spot on the team this season.
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Post#834 » by DY_nasty » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:48 am

I truly despise Kemba.

He might be good player once he learns how to shoot and be aggressive, but in the meantime he is a terrible, terrible point guard. I'll excuse DJ since he's obviously checked out. But Kemba? No. All the physical tools and skills to get past whoever is in front of him - but all that aggression that he was supposed to have is missing. Teammates can be blamed for the lack of assists or quality of shots or funoutthere and all that, but he puts almost no pressure on the defense when he's just going back and forth at the top of the 3pt line.

At least Brandon Knight commits to the idea of making people guard him. Kemba is just a consistent non-factor the majority of his time on the court.
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Post#835 » by Kembastockton » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:18 pm

DY_nasty wrote:I truly despise Kemba.

He might be good player once he learns how to shoot and be aggressive, but in the meantime he is a terrible, terrible point guard. I'll excuse DJ since he's obviously checked out. But Kemba? No. All the physical tools and skills to get past whoever is in front of him - but all that aggression that he was supposed to have is missing. Teammates can be blamed for the lack of assists or quality of shots or funoutthere and all that, but he puts almost no pressure on the defense when he's just going back and forth at the top of the 3pt line.

At least Brandon Knight commits to the idea of making people guard him. Kemba is just a consistent non-factor the majority of his time on the court.

Did it ever occur to you that Kemba was just running the bad plays called out by the coaching staff?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#836 » by fatlever » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:31 pm

whether its kemba or the plays being called, i do agree that what he is doing currently at point guard is painful to watch. last night he spent a solid 10 seconds of every possession just dribbling at the top of the key waiting for a pick. when the pick would come he would make a half-assed attempt to go around it, but the double would happen, then kemba would back up a few steps and try to beat the double team, which rarely worked. the end result was usually kemba launching a contested shot or kemba giving up and passing to a teammate, usually hendo.

for kemba's sake i do hope its only related to the plays being called.

my personal opinion is that its a bit of both bad play calling and a point guard who isnt aggressive enough in dealing with traps and doubles. he needs to learn to split those defenders, or to simply not wait for the pick every time and force something before the extra defenders arrive.
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Post#837 » by Eoghan » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:02 pm

There is a lot of standing around and watching Kemba when he gets the ball. I mean, our offense doesn't move regardless of who's playing but it's really bad when Kemba is in there.
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Post#838 » by DY_nasty » Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:27 pm

DJQuick wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:I truly despise Kemba.

He might be good player once he learns how to shoot and be aggressive, but in the meantime he is a terrible, terrible point guard. I'll excuse DJ since he's obviously checked out. But Kemba? No. All the physical tools and skills to get past whoever is in front of him - but all that aggression that he was supposed to have is missing. Teammates can be blamed for the lack of assists or quality of shots or funoutthere and all that, but he puts almost no pressure on the defense when he's just going back and forth at the top of the 3pt line.

At least Brandon Knight commits to the idea of making people guard him. Kemba is just a consistent non-factor the majority of his time on the court.

Did it ever occur to you that Kemba was just running the bad plays called out by the coaching staff?

The play calls suck.

But there is no play that can suddenly make a player more assertive on the court. Its like Kemba materialized out of all of Battery's criticisms of DJ over the years.

Who would've thought that Kemba's best quality would be his defense at this point?
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Post#839 » by captaincrunk » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:58 am

DJQuick wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:I truly despise Kemba.

He might be good player once he learns how to shoot and be aggressive, but in the meantime he is a terrible, terrible point guard. I'll excuse DJ since he's obviously checked out. But Kemba? No. All the physical tools and skills to get past whoever is in front of him - but all that aggression that he was supposed to have is missing. Teammates can be blamed for the lack of assists or quality of shots or funoutthere and all that, but he puts almost no pressure on the defense when he's just going back and forth at the top of the 3pt line.

At least Brandon Knight commits to the idea of making people guard him. Kemba is just a consistent non-factor the majority of his time on the court.

Did it ever occur to you that Kemba was just running the bad plays called out by the coaching staff?

DJ gets assists on those same plays.
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Post#840 » by Stun704 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:30 am

DJ doesn't look to shoot at all
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