Charlotte Hornets - The Brand Returns!!!

Kembastockton · Post #221 » by **Kembastockton** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:53 pm

While I would L..O..V..E to get the color scheme back I was never to keen on the name Hornets. To me the name Hornets is no better than Bobcats. I would love to apply the colors to a new name like the Carolina Flight. Which reminds me of the real reason I hate UNC. I hate the fact that they have sole proprietory rights over the knick name Tarheels. That is the state knickname. Why does one college team own the knickname that should be the alias of all North Carolina teams?

penquin11 · Post #222 » by **penquin11** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 pm

At least hornets holds a historical context.

Kembastockton · Post #223 » by **Kembastockton** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:03 pm

penquin11 wrote:At least hornets holds a historical context.

Another team's historical Context. The Hornets turned their back on us, and left us for another city who has yet to be as good to them as we were.

penquin11 · Post #224 » by **penquin11** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:04 pm

DJQuick wrote:
penquin11 wrote:At least hornets holds a historical context.

Another team's historical Context. The Hornets turned their back on us, and left us for another city who has yet to be as good to them as we were.

No I mean relevance to the area.... like in history....

captaincrunk · Post #225 » by **captaincrunk** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:09 pm

penquin11 wrote:
DJQuick wrote:
penquin11 wrote:At least hornets holds a historical context.

Another team's historical Context. The Hornets turned their back on us, and left us for another city who has yet to be as good to them as we were.

No I mean relevance to the area.... like in history....

That's right, because a family of hornets raised Johnny Appleseed. I forgot.

But what's the history anyway? How big of an impact could some bugs really have?

Kembastockton · Post #226 » by **Kembastockton** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:12 pm

No I mean relevance to the area.... like in history....

And Flight, Tarheels, Bobcats, and Cougars don't? I'd be willing to wager that any of these have had as major an impact on NC history as any Hornets may have. Matter of fact Flight and Tarheels are so far in front of the others that they might as well turn around and go back to the house.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #227 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:19 pm

captaincrunk wrote:
But what's the history anyway? How big of an impact could some bugs really have?

That's not it...at all.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthr ... post211114

BlackOutBuzz · Post #228 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:21 pm

DJQuick wrote:
No I mean relevance to the area.... like in history....

And Flight, Tarheels, Bobcats, and Cougars don't? I'd be willing to wager that any of these have had as major an impact on NC history as any Hornets may have. Matter of fact Flight and Tarheels are so far in front of the others that they might as well turn around and go back to the house.

Tarheels and Flight do, but Bobcats and Cougars really don't have much relevance at all.

Kembastockton · Post #229 » by **Kembastockton** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
But what's the history anyway? How big of an impact could some bugs really have?

That's not it...at all.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthr ... post211114

I did not know that. Count me in. The name Hornets does belong in Charlotte.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #230 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 pm

I honestly think that the historical context thing matters here. I was born raised here in Charlotte. Most of the folks I know moved here and don't really care about the Hornets name. It think that's true of most transplants and, sadly, Charlotte in general these days. However as you move outside of town and into the community in the broader metro area, that name does matter.

And no you can't do Tarheels - too much overlap with UNC. Flight is still contested by Ohio. Cougars is even more HS than Bobcats.

Kembastockton · Post #231 » by **Kembastockton** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:30 pm

And no you can't do Tarheels - too much overlap with UNC. Flight is still contested by Ohio. Cougars is even more HS than Bobcats.

Uh.. that is what I was complaining about. Why does some regional college team monopolize a state knickname?

Who cares what Ohio wants to contest? My license plate still says, " NC First in Flight " doggoneit.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #232 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 pm

Is there some team in Ohio that goes by Flight? Or is that just the state itself protesting NC's claim of "First in Flight"?

Post #233 » by **fatlever** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:17 pm

the fact that the charlotte-mecklenburg police department uses a hornets nest as their badge should signify the historical impact of the "hornet" and the term "hornets nest" to charlotte. we are the "hornets nest". after gold mining and the charlotte mint, the revolutionary war ties to "hornets nest" is probably the the most significant history attached to this city.

/history lesson

Post #234 » by **fatlever** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:20 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
But what's the history anyway? How big of an impact could some bugs really have?

That's not it...at all.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthr ... post211114

thanks for posting that blackout. i had asked at the very beginning of this thread (not in sarcasm) if everyone understood the true history behind "hornets" and charlotte. i'm glad someone at BCP did a good job of putting it together.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #235 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:49 pm

fatlever wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
But what's the history anyway? How big of an impact could some bugs really have?

That's not it...at all.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthr ... post211114

thanks for posting that blackout. i had asked at the very beginning of this thread (not in sarcasm) if everyone understood the true history behind "hornets" and charlotte. i'm glad someone at BCP did a good job of putting it together.

Yeah I don't go to BCP a lot but I frequently check in to see if there are any new Ballwhore ramblings (they're entertaining at least), plus I knew there was a lengthy thread on this discussion there and wanted to see some other opinions on it. I'm in NC, not Charlotte, so I knew about a good chunk of the history (Revolutionary War, other sports teams that used the Hornets name), but the Police Department thing was new to me. Very cool, solidified my thinking that this is where the Hornets name belongs.

captaincrunk · Post #236 » by **captaincrunk** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:29 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
But what's the history anyway? How big of an impact could some bugs really have?

That's not it...at all.

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthr ... post211114

That's all pretty cool. Kinda kitschy but still pretty cool.

Liver_Pooty · Post #237 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:30 pm

I knew about the history, but was completely unaware that the police department uses that on their badge.

Nice.

Stun704 · Post #238 » by **Stun704** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:46 pm

If we get the hornets name back would crashes jersey still be retired?

Post #239 » by **fatlever** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:34 pm

Stun704 wrote:If we get the hornets name back would crashes jersey still be retired?

i would hope so. we should keep the bobcats franchise history (as well as also using the charlotte hornets history). it should be charlotte pro honor. i'd love to see muggsy, dell and wallace all have their jerseys retired at time warner arena some day. they can hang with bobby phills in the rafters.

captaincrunk · Post #240 » by **captaincrunk** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:47 pm

fatlever wrote:
Stun704 wrote:If we get the hornets name back would crashes jersey still be retired?

i would hope so. we should keep the bobcats franchise history (as well as also using the charlotte hornets history). it should be charlotte pro honor. i'd love to see muggsy, dell and wallace all have their jerseys retired at time warner arena some day. they can hang with bobby phills in the rafters.

I'd imagine that the hornets jerseys retired currently in Louisiana would remain retired there, and not here unless we felt like it.