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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#201 » by shangrila » Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:48 am

Crowder would definitely be a great pickup, and seems to fit that energy/toughness mold Kahn talked about.
Jared Cunningham would be a good get too, and DX seems to think he'll be staying in the draft.
Kim English is a good shooter and looks like a taller Ellington. So, nothing great, but I'd take a taller Ellington as a 3rd string.
Finally, Kevin Murphy is one of those efficient mid major scorers, except he has good size at 6-6 (though he's a little skinny). The red flag with him, and the reason he's currently undrafted on DXs mock, is that when he did face higher competition he got shut down, repeatedly.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#202 » by eyeteeth » Fri Apr 6, 2012 3:32 pm

Klomp wrote:I'm really liking Jae Crowder. Has great defensive instincts and toughness. Hes the type of guy we need to be targeting in the 2nd.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jae-Crowder-10084/

:o That sounds good to me, especially since having Rubio at the point should minimize the need for him to create.

I think if we got him and were serious about having him play significant minutes we would need a 2 that was good at creating his own shot, but that is a need we should be addressing anyway.
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Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#203 » by Dan's with the Wolves » Fri Apr 6, 2012 4:19 pm

Do the Wolves have the assets to move up to get Kidd-Gilchrist?

He seems to be a perfect fit for the wolves at SF. An all around basketball player and true SF at the three.

I wonder if Williams is enough? Throw in a Memphis or Utah pick?

It obviously will depend on how the lottery goes. And which teams are in the position to draft MGK. But he would be who I would target with a Williams trade.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#204 » by Klomp » Fri Apr 6, 2012 4:36 pm

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Klomp wrote:I'm really liking Jae Crowder. Has great defensive instincts and toughness. Hes the type of guy we need to be targeting in the 2nd.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jae-Crowder-10084/

:o That sounds good to me, especially since having Rubio at the point should minimize the need for him to create.

I think if we got him and were serious about having him play significant minutes we would need a 2 that was good at creating his own shot, but that is a need we should be addressing anyway.

Honestly, before watching him last night, I had seen his name on the DX mocks, but I had never looked at his profile. He is one of those guys who immediately passes the eye test for me.

Currently projected to go #42. I hope we do what it takes to get him. I have a serious mancrush right now on his game.
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Post#205 » by canucklife21 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:12 pm

So its offical lamb declares, where do you see lamb matching up with the other wings in the draft? mkg ( if he declares) beal, rivers, barnes, ross?.. He was a projected top 5 pick at the start of the year, i didnt see much of him play this year but does anyone know why the drop off occured? i hear he goes mia (missing in action) during games aswell?

ne way khan can get into the late lottery and get one of this guys? i see barnes, mkg being top 5 picks.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#206 » by AQuintus » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:07 pm

Dan's with the Wolves wrote:Do the Wolves have the assets to move up to get Kidd-Gilchrist?

He seems to be a perfect fit for the wolves at SF. An all around basketball player and true SF at the three.

I wonder if Williams is enough? Throw in a Memphis or Utah pick?

It obviously will depend on how the lottery goes. And which teams are in the position to draft MGK. But he would be who I would target with a Williams trade.


Charlotte fans seem to be open to trading their pick, provided that it isn't number 1, for Williams and a future 1st or the Memphis 1st. We'd be able to get MKG, and they'd get a PF who can give them some offense, big needs of theirs.

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canucklife21 wrote:So its offical lamb declares, where do you see lamb matching up with the other wings in the draft? mkg ( if he declares) beal, rivers, barnes, ross?.. He was a projected top 5 pick at the start of the year, i didnt see much of him play this year but does anyone know why the drop off occured? i hear he goes mia (missing in action) during games aswell?

ne way khan can get into the late lottery and get one of this guys? i see barnes, mkg being top 5 picks.


IMO,

1. MKG
2. Beal
3. Lamb
4. Rivers
5. Barnes
6. Ross

Barnes' ranking will be controversial, but I just don't see him being able to do anything in the NBA. He doesn't have the ball handling or first step to beat his defender in college, his jump shot is pretty, but doesn't produce great results (like Wes), and he's a good, but not great, defender. If he does end up getting picked top 5, it will be because of his high school hype, just like OJ Mayo. And like Mayo, he'll probably be a guy that will give you 20 points on 19 shots a game on a terrible team, but will be a backup at best on a good team.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#207 » by Vindicater » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:30 pm

Kris Joseph.

I want another old syracuse draftee!
"That's why the last two years weren't guaranteed," Walsh said. "Either way, he knew it could have happened either way."
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#208 » by Klomp » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:15 am

Klomp wrote:-Depending on how he measures, Georgetown's Henry Sims could be a big man target in the 2nd. Seems like he'd be a nice system fit.


From today:

While possessing many characteristics skill-wise of a power forward, Henry Sims is definitely tall enough to play as a center in the NBA at 6-10 without shoes, 251 pounds and a 7-4 wingspan.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1ry9dM8hP
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He might be available at 55. If so, I'd draft him.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#209 » by shangrila » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:08 am

Klomp wrote:
Klomp wrote:-Depending on how he measures, Georgetown's Henry Sims could be a big man target in the 2nd. Seems like he'd be a nice system fit.


From today:

While possessing many characteristics skill-wise of a power forward, Henry Sims is definitely tall enough to play as a center in the NBA at 6-10 without shoes, 251 pounds and a 7-4 wingspan.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1ry9dM8hP
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He might be available at 55. If so, I'd draft him.

Him, Kyle O'Quinn or Kevin Murphy would all be good gets around that area.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#210 » by BUANIX » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:27 pm

Maybe this is not the post were i should talk about this guy.. ( I think that he is not going to be in this Draft), but...

Have a look on this new spanish kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9O5MM-fSQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAx_a3PTJDs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ZANxx_6E0&feature=fvwp

He is on his first year in the ACB league ... where Ricky, Pau and so on started their career..

Just for information! but believe me, I am a huge basketball fan from the early 80´s... and this kid is special.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#211 » by Klomp » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:03 pm

BUANIX wrote:Maybe this is not the post were i should talk about this guy.. ( I think that he is not going to be in this Draft), but...

Have a look on this new spanish kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9O5MM-fSQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAx_a3PTJDs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ZANxx_6E0&feature=fvwp

He is on his first year in the ACB league ... where Ricky, Pau and so on started their career..

Just for information! but believe me, I am a huge basketball fan from the early 80´s... and this kid is special.

I'veseen his name mentioned on DX mocks. He does sound like he'll be a good one
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#212 » by Krapinsky » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:36 pm

Jared Cunningham is already moving up the charts people. If you haven't jumped on my bandwagon yet, you better get on.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#213 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:07 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Jared Cunningham is already moving up the charts people. If you haven't jumped on my bandwagon yet, you better get on.

I'm in. Athletic, efficient, gets to the line and still pretty young.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#214 » by AQuintus » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:48 am

It sounds like Drummond is definitely in the draft and that Thomas Robinson has risen above MKG, so if the draft goes as expected:

1. Charlotte - Davis (Obviously)
2. Washington - Robinson (Need a PF, and probably don't want to risk taking Drummond)
3. New Orleans - Drummond (Need talent)

4. Sacramento - MKG?

Sacramento needs a PF way more than they need a wing, so maybe a Williams for MKG trade could be in the cards. In the extremely likely event that the draft order is shaken up, all 4 of those teams do need a PF, and I could see all 4 teams being more interested in Williams than Robinson (better rebounder, definite position, and plays with more energy, but less talented than Williams overall) and Drummond (huge bust potential).
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#215 » by shangrila » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:51 am

I kind of doubt that. The shiny new rookie usually beats out the sophomore, especially one who's been mildly disappointing this season.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#216 » by AQuintus » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:07 am

shangrila wrote:I kind of doubt that. The shiny new rookie usually beats out the sophomore, especially one who's been mildly disappointing this season.


That's why I could definitely see teams preferring Robinson to Williams, despite Williams being the superior prospect (imo), but if Robinson and Davis are both off the boards and the team drafting could use a PF, I could see them trading their pick (Gilchrist) for Williams.

I'll also say that I seriously doubt that the real NBA decision makers are as down on Williams as a lot of fans around here and the trade board are. Just remember, after a subpar rookie season and coming off of an injury, Indiana was still supposedly willing to trade the 10th pick in a good draft for Jonny Flynn.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#217 » by shangrila » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:00 pm

10th pick < top 5 pick. Not to mention that, statistically anyway, Flynn had the better rookie season.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#218 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:09 pm

shangrila wrote:10th pick < top 5 pick. Not to mention that, statistically anyway, Flynn had the better rookie season.

Eh, not really. Flynn basically had control of the team since he was the only perimeter threat. D-will hasn't gotten any sort of consistent minutes. You can just tell that Derrick is a much better player then Flynn.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#219 » by Klomp » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:28 pm

AQuintus wrote:It sounds like Drummond is definitely in the draft and that Thomas Robinson has risen above MKG, so if the draft goes as expected:

1. Charlotte - Davis (Obviously)
2. Washington - Robinson (Need a PF, and probably don't want to risk taking Drummond)
3. New Orleans - Drummond (Need talent)

4. Sacramento - MKG?

Sacramento needs a PF way more than they need a wing, so maybe a Williams for MKG trade could be in the cards. In the extremely likely event that the draft order is shaken up, all 4 of those teams do need a PF, and I could see all 4 teams being more interested in Williams than Robinson (better rebounder, definite position, and plays with more energy, but less talented than Williams overall) and Drummond (huge bust potential).

I think a Nene/Drummond frontcourt makes more sense than a Robinson/Nene frontcourt.

I also don't see how Williams makes more sense than Kidd-Gilchrist for Sacramento. Williams is not the type of PF you want to pair with Cousins, while, Kidd-Gilchrist is a perfect type of SF to pair with Evans.
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Re: Official 2012 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#220 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:31 pm

^ Yeah, I'd say that Sac desperately has needed a SF for awhile now. MKG is the BPA on most boards, and he fills a bigger need for them with Thompson playing so well.

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