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Post#161 » by dobrojim » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:49 pm

Spence wrote:Do the Wizards have six first round picks I don't know about? Why should Singleton and/or Martin not be on the team next year? I understand the team will have a new first round pick. Let's say they get someone like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, just as an example. There's no room for James Singleton on the roster? Especially if Rashard Lewis and/or Andray Blatche are elsewhere? I don't follow that.



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I at least think we find a way to keep JSing and Martin. They each add to an
area of the team that needed help until they got here.

With a solid draft/offseason, we could compete for 5-8 in the EC next year.
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Post#162 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:51 pm

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zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:Crawford is such an idiot. I dont care that he made that.. why take such a low percentage shot on such a critical possession?! :evil:



if you're talking about the late 3, the shot clock was running down.
If he doesn't hoist the shot, it's a TO. Great make.


I dont like trying to justify that shot. He received the ball with 5 seconds left. Jab steps twice as the defender sets himself and then hoists the shot with 3 seconds to go. There was plenty of time to get a higher % shot. Im happy he made it but that kind of idiotic shot will burn you 9 times out of 10 and it's a concept that seems to elude him.
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Post#163 » by Nivek » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:53 pm

One of the reasons the Wiz may not run more screen/roll is that Wall isn't very good at using the picks. He leaves too much space between himself and the screener, which makes it easier for the defender to get through and disrupt the play. That flaw shows up in the highlight reel posted above. The success of those plays is based on Wall's raw athleticism and moving screens that the ref didn't call.

Plus, there's no reason with Wall to EVER play over the screen because his jumper is so suspect. Defenders can just slide under and pick him up on the other side.
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Post#164 » by montestewart » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:26 pm

Wall's wide berth around the picks often results in the setter sliding a little to extend it to him, and getting the foul. They need to work on that and drill it into his head. Nene, as a solid, proven vet, can maybe take the lead there, as Vesely and Seraphin might not be assertive enough to impress upon him what a bad habit that is. Not much they can do about his jumper, other than drive him to jump shooting camp (maybe Vesely can go with him).
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Post#165 » by dobrojim » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:26 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:Would Anyone want to start Nene and Kevin and same line up? Move Nene to pf and Kevin center And sign another back up center? Next season if we dont get Anthony Davis.



Me and CCJ and probably some others too.

Many feel Nene's best position is the 4.
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Post#166 » by jivelikenice » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:27 pm

If you look at the games where the offense has played well and where Wall has been effective they have run this play so I don't agree that he isn't very good at using the picks. He's not good at using picks closer to the basket, but specifically when they start high as shown in the highlights above he's been very effective scoring and creating scoring opportunities for others.
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Post#167 » by montestewart » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:36 pm

jivelikenice wrote:If you look at the games where the offense has played well and where Wall has been effective they have run this play so I don't agree that he isn't very good at using the picks. He's not good at using picks closer to the basket, but specifically when they start high as shown in the highlights above he's been very effective scoring and creating scoring opportunities for others.

I somewhat agree with you, because he has managed to use the picks, but agree with Nivek that much of the time the reason he's able to use picks effectively is his speed coupled with a less than perfect P&R. A full camp practicing with Seraphin, Nene, Vesely and he could score off them more consistently and help cut down on the fouls on the setter too.
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Post#168 » by jivelikenice » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:39 pm

I totally agree with Nivek that he isn't effective playing pick n roll, but I think its moreso when he's starting it closer to the basket. This particular set plays to his athleticism and it shows in how much more comfortable he looks when they run it that high. He's comfortable playing to his athleticism and that's his strength so my main point was we should run more of it based on that. Over the summer he does have to learn to be more effective on the pick n roll when the game slows down.
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Post#169 » by montestewart » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:51 pm

This is one of the reasons I'm excited for this summer and a full camp. There a lot of potential weapons that could be greatly improved on with the current players training on the same page.
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Post#170 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:07 pm

montestewart wrote:
jivelikenice wrote:If you look at the games where the offense has played well and where Wall has been effective they have run this play so I don't agree that he isn't very good at using the picks. He's not good at using picks closer to the basket, but specifically when they start high as shown in the highlights above he's been very effective scoring and creating scoring opportunities for others.

I somewhat agree with you, because he has managed to use the picks, but agree with Nivek that much of the time the reason he's able to use picks effectively is his speed coupled with a less than perfect P&R. A full camp practicing with Seraphin, Nene, Vesely and he could score off them more consistently and help cut down on the fouls on the setter too.


Wall's shot has to improve. He's shooting less than 10% on threes. Count on that improving to over 30%. Dude's shot can't be that broken. I think he's going to get a lot better (and approach only slightly below average) as a midrange and deep shooter.

The Wizards need to draft a guy like Denmon or move down and get Lillard, just in case Wall doesn't shoot it better.
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Post#171 » by Nivek » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:31 pm

The problem with starting PNR so far from the basket is that any smart defense will just stop wasting their energy so far from the basket. It's the kind of thing that works great against the Brandon Jennings of the league, but defenders from good defensive teams will just wait to pick up Wall when he gets to the 3pt line. Better defensive teams are more interested in defending the paint and the 3pt line. They're not going to give a crap about Wall dribbling near mid-court.
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Post#172 » by jivelikenice » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:46 am

If it were that simple than why do teams continue to come out there? You can't sit back and let him get a full head of steam because it will be too difficult to react to his speed at that point.

Either way, why not run it more often until teams start overcompensating or make their own adjustments. Make them react to us for a change.

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