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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#161 » by jeff1624 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:56 am

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The Hypnotoad wrote:Houston is free-falling. I think Phoenix is gonna get that last spot. Crap.

I wouldn't say they're free-falling. The West is so tight that if you lose two in a row or 3 out of 4, you can drop 3-4 slots.



They've lost 5 games in a row with tonights game. They're free-falling.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#162 » by bobbyc » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:02 am

Either they really want that pick or they really don't want to play the Spurs. Either way, Fu<k em.

They are @NOLA, then GSW, @MIA, then NOLA. 3-1.

Utah is going to win. Then ORL, PHO, POR.

Phoenix game is up in the air against OKC. But, then LAC, DEN, @UTA, SAS. Rough schedule, but home games and they are good at home.

Things aren't looking good for HOU, need a miracle. Well, we will probably get it next year at least. Prepare yourself for no 2012 picks. :cry:
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#163 » by therealbig3 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:47 am

IMO, Utah is going to make it as the 8th seed...their schedule is very favorable. Orlando without Dwight, Phoenix, and Portland. They're a better team than Orlando without Dwight and Portland, and the Phoenix game could go either way. IMO, worst case scenario is 2-1, and best case is 3-0, and there's a good chance for that best case scenario.

I think the Utah-Phoenix game is going to VERY interesting.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#164 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Our best hope might be to root for Dallas to climb up to the 20th pick. If they do, Houston gets their pick. Maybe Houston would then use it to buy us out of their debt, as the Rockets would end up having 3 first rounders.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#165 » by N Ireland Nets » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:49 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:Our best hope might be to root for Dallas to climb up to the 20th pick. If they do, Houston gets their pick. Maybe Houston would then use it to buy us out of their debt, as the Rockets would end up having 3 first rounders.


Would also allow them to trade their picks in the future because as of now they are basically restricted from included their pick until we get it. Maybe they will offer us the Knicks pick or something I duno, unlikely :-?
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#166 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:23 am

Houston can't do anything right haha. Headed into overtime with the Hornets... Image
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#167 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:36 am

And it's a wrap, zero picks in a stacked draft. **** you Billy Bitch Boy King.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#168 » by DusterBuster » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:48 am

Being the cynical Blazer fan that I am, I still believe the Nets are going to end up with a Top 3 pick after the ping-pong balls drop, if that's any consolation.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#169 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:53 am

Yeah, seriously Houston! You couldn't beat the Hornets? Come on...
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#170 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:39 am

Technically speaking they can still make it in, this is going to be beyond an uphill battle at this point though. This really really sucks. Screw you Billy Queen.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#171 » by N Ireland Nets » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:40 pm

Its anoying that the Rockets lost but Eric Gordon has taken an average team, put them on his back and led them to wins.

He is a great player, what I wouldn't do to get him on the Nets.

If we did get a top 3 pick, rather than moving for Josh Smith would anyone look to get a sign and trade with Gordon using the top 3 pick somehow?

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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#172 » by Shameer1016 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:54 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Its anoying that the Rockets lost but Eric Gordon has taken an average team, put them on his back and led them to wins.

He is a great player, what I wouldn't do to get him on the Nets.

If we did get a top 3 pick, rather than moving for Josh Smith would anyone look to get a sign and trade with Gordon using the top 3 pick somehow?

I would


Keep the pick, and start rebuilding and stop the reconstructing sh*t they've been doing over the seasons. Lottery is at the end of May right? I really can't wait to see where we land.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#173 » by N Ireland Nets » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:35 pm

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N Ireland Nets wrote:Its anoying that the Rockets lost but Eric Gordon has taken an average team, put them on his back and led them to wins.

He is a great player, what I wouldn't do to get him on the Nets.

If we did get a top 3 pick, rather than moving for Josh Smith would anyone look to get a sign and trade with Gordon using the top 3 pick somehow?

I would


Keep the pick, and start rebuilding and stop the reconstructing sh*t they've been doing over the seasons. Lottery is at the end of May right? I really can't wait to see where we land.


You can't rebuild though thats the point. If we land the 2nd or 3rd pick, it's getting traded for a good player to improve the team. If we attempted to rebuild and keep any potential top 3 pick (outside of Davis) we will still be a lotto team in 2012-2013 with no 1st round pick.

So we can't rebuild because of the Wallace trade, we're all in still
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#174 » by Shameer1016 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:32 pm

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N Ireland Nets wrote:Its anoying that the Rockets lost but Eric Gordon has taken an average team, put them on his back and led them to wins.

He is a great player, what I wouldn't do to get him on the Nets.

If we did get a top 3 pick, rather than moving for Josh Smith would anyone look to get a sign and trade with Gordon using the top 3 pick somehow?

I would


Keep the pick, and start rebuilding and stop the reconstructing sh*t they've been doing over the seasons. Lottery is at the end of May right? I really can't wait to see where we land.


You can't rebuild though thats the point. If we land the 2nd or 3rd pick, it's getting traded for a good player to improve the team. If we attempted to rebuild and keep any potential top 3 pick (outside of Davis) we will still be a lotto team in 2012-2013 with no 1st round pick.

So we can't rebuild because of the Wallace trade, we're all in still


And unless the star you trade that pick for is Lebron James, your still going to be a lottery team. This team better get there sh*t right, because that Blueprint for Greatness isn't going as planned I believe, unless this was the plan from the start. Oh, and I'm talking as if we have a 1st round pick in this draft, silly me :banghead:
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#175 » by SteveNets15 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:10 pm

and the Suns beat the Clippers smh
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#176 » by DusterBuster » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:23 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:You can't rebuild though thats the point. If we land the 2nd or 3rd pick, it's getting traded for a good player to improve the team. If we attempted to rebuild and keep any potential top 3 pick (outside of Davis) we will still be a lotto team in 2012-2013 with no 1st round pick.

So we can't rebuild because of the Wallace trade, we're all in still


I don't believe that is possible. If the Nets get a Top 3 pick, then the pick becomes a Top 2 lotto protected 2013 pick for the Blazers. Because of that Isiah Thomas rule, teams can trade 2 consecutive 1st round picks in back to back years. So since your 2013 pick would be traded to Portland, you can't trade the 2012 pick.

However you might be able to trade it after the player is picked, but I'm not sure what the technicalities are on that.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#177 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:46 pm

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N Ireland Nets wrote:You can't rebuild though thats the point. If we land the 2nd or 3rd pick, it's getting traded for a good player to improve the team. If we attempted to rebuild and keep any potential top 3 pick (outside of Davis) we will still be a lotto team in 2012-2013 with no 1st round pick.

So we can't rebuild because of the Wallace trade, we're all in still


I don't believe that is possible. If the Nets get a Top 3 pick, then the pick becomes a Top 2 lotto protected 2013 pick for the Blazers. Because of that Isiah Thomas rule, teams can trade 2 consecutive 1st round picks in back to back years. So since your 2013 pick would be traded to Portland, you can't trade the 2012 pick.

However you might be able to trade it after the player is picked, but I'm not sure what the technicalities are on that.

It's called the Ted Stepien Rule.

You can trade the player drafted in 2012 as long as you physically select the player then trade him, it's a loophole in the rule.

Also, if we find a way to attain another 2012 1st round pick we're good as well.
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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#178 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:53 pm

Shameer1016 wrote:And unless the star you trade that pick for is Lebron James, your still going to be a lottery team.

That's not necessarily true.

You can make a trade that brings in a real star and keep Deron, resign Wallace as well and either resign Brook or S&T him for someone good but different.

Listen, I'm not expecting greatness at this point, but it's not out of the question.

Dwight is still out there as well, there's no denying it.

This team better get there sh*t right, because that Blueprint for Greatness isn't going as planned I believe, unless this was the plan from the start.

Indeed.

Oh, and I'm talking as if we have a 1st round pick in this draft, silly me :banghead:

The trade was awful, but maybe we'll luck out into top 3.

And the sad part is even if we do, the pick will almost definitely be traded and in a true doomsday where Deron and Wallace walk, yet we "only" get the 3rd overall with Davis and Robinson off the board, we're probably looking at shipping somewhere around the 4th to 9th overall to Portland in 2013 when we're in a forced real deal youth rebuild.

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Re: Houston Pick Watch 

Post#179 » by therealbig3 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:09 pm

What I'm scared of is that we end up trading for Howard in the summer, which makes Deron stay, but this injury really slows down Howard's career, and he won't be the same player again. We end up giving away every last asset we had for damaged goods, and we won't ever be as good as we expected, because of that. I hope not, and it doesn't sound like this is going to seriously affect him in the future, but with the luck of this team, I can't help but think about it.

Obviously, everyone walking away and us not having a draft pick would basically be the death sentence of this franchise.
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Post#180 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:18 pm

I'd take damaged good over stolen goods, so I'm good with that trade.
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