Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#581 » by Spicy P » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:48 pm

He should get the rest of the season, including the playoffs based on his previous history.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#582 » by Striders » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:49 pm

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Posts like this disgust me. You think I'm taking team affiliation into consideration here? This was a potentially life-threatening act of violence. ANY force applied to the head can result in traumatic, even fatal brain injury and trauma, especially when one is blindsided and not given enough time to prepare for or brace for a hit. Did you see how Harden's neck whipped? Seriously, Metta World Peace is one of the largest players in the NBA, but even JJ Barea could have caused injury had he taken a similar swing.

What World Peace did was vicious and has no place in the game of basketball.


Seriously.

Enough of this fandom **** people. Nobody cares what uniform MWP was wearing. What he did was ****ing disgraceful.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#583 » by TeeheeDumDum » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:49 pm

Kalidogg24 wrote:
TeeheeDumDum wrote:10 game suspension if Harden comes out okay.


Imo 10 is a little too much.

But it's definitely possible.
I think 2 to 3 games is fair.

I thought about the bynum suspension (Originally 5), along with Artest's past. I really don't think it'll be under 5.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#584 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:50 pm

TeeheeDumDum wrote:10 game suspension if Harden comes out okay.
Sasaki wrote:I definitely don't think a lifetime ban. Minimum would be the remaining regular season games and one playoff series. I'd probably just give it a flat 25 game ban. Melo got 15 for the Knicks Nuggets brawl, and Artest gets additional punishment because of his reputation.


The thing is, it was a brawl. Things got escalated, which is why his ban was so large. If you're looking at more recent precedents, I'm guessing it's closer to 15 than 25 games.


Right, people need to understand context. A sucker punch is much worse than being involved in a brawl.

And then there's just the matter that if this was literally anyone but Artest, it would be different. This isn't a mistake big enough that I'd lifetime ban a rookie, but Artest is already on his 9th life.

Interesting thought: I am of course a mod who has gotten countless people banned. I look at this based on what's a reasonable next course of action for the people running this show. Some other people clearly don't, and by the law of averages, someone somewhere in this thread will eventually get banned and think it was unfair that they only got 13 warnings before that happened.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#585 » by Kobe2ndFiddle » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:51 pm

The first round seems plausible.

but a lifetime ban ? GMAFB, the result of the swing was bad, the intent wasn't.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#586 » by -[Clippers]- » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:52 pm

Striders wrote:[
Seriously.

Enough of this fandom **** people. Nobody cares what uniform MWP was wearing. What he did was ****ing disgraceful.

I'd be just as disgusted if Artest was wearing a Bulls, Pacers, Kings, Rockets, even a Clippers uniform. I like Artest when he isn't pulling this ****, but I can't deny that he has become a complete and utter disgrace to the league.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#587 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:52 pm

TeeheeDumDum wrote:
Kalidogg24 wrote:
TeeheeDumDum wrote:10 game suspension if Harden comes out okay.


Imo 10 is a little too much.

But it's definitely possible.
I think 2 to 3 games is fair.


I thought about the bynum suspension (Originally 5), along with Artest's past. I really don't think it'll be under 5.


Right, this is clearly worse than what Bynum did, and coming from an offender with far more of a track record along these lines. Anything under 10 games is just ridiculously inconsistent.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#588 » by diablerouge » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:53 pm

i don't think ron artest will play again this year. track record DOES matter when looking at possible sanctions, and i don't understand why it shouldn't, quite frankly.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#589 » by blocks » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:54 pm

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Hope James Hardin is ok... I remember when I hit by Marc Gasol the same way.. I was spitting up blood and a headache during the game...
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Post#590 » by starvinmarvin17 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:54 pm

This should be his last straw
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#591 » by Kalidogg24 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:54 pm

hollabackitsobi wrote:
Posts like this disgust me. You think I'm taking team affiliation into consideration here? This was a potentially life-threatening act of violence. ANY force applied to the head can result in traumatic, even fatal brain injury and trauma, especially when one is blindsided and not given enough time to prepare for or brace for a hit. Did you see how Harden's neck whipped? Seriously, Metta World Peace is one of the largest players in the NBA, but even JJ Barea could have caused injury had he taken a similar swing.

What World Peace did was vicious and has no place in the game of basketball.



What MWP was horrible and a mistake. He should be penalized accordingly .
But your acting like he's the first brusier the NBA has ever seen. Ever heard of Charles Oakley?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#592 » by Ballings7 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:54 pm

toddlincoln wrote:
Ballings7 wrote:Regardless of how you interpet it, Ron's gonna get a decent suspension... As an Artest fan, I'm disappointed, but as a Spurs fan I'm sitting back and moving on....

A banning or entire playoffs is ridiculous, get a grip people


Do you have any idea how bad concussions can be? I feel like a broken record, but Artest seriously injured someone because he can't control himself. He shouldnt' be allow to play in the playoffs.


Alright toddy... lemme break it down for ya

I didn't see it in real time, until just this thread... watching it a couple more times, that was a bad hit and Ron if he gets full playoffs, is respectable, but I don't think he deserves it... more like half of the playoffs in game amount and rest of reg. season at the most


However, I really don't think Ron meant to hit him like that, moreso to shove him off of him with his forearm while he was celebrating and moving at the same time and wasn't directly looking at him... it's just unfortunate Harden was so close to him, or else the contact wouldn't of been as bad.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#593 » by Ozark » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:55 pm

Artest's failure to own up to this is going to cost him big time. He was already on his "9th life" NBA - wise. They have the tape, any intelligent person can see it was intentional, no one in the media is disputing this. By continuing to pretend it wasn't intentional, and with the recent emphasis on head injuries, and his past history he is gone. Period. I seriously doubt any other outcome. Stern doesn't want to deal with Artest playing in this league again, he sure as hades doesn't want him back for the second round potential series against the Thunder and the chaos that would cause.

He's done, he may as well buy a copy of Rosetta Stone Chinese on his way home tonight.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#594 » by hisairness » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:55 pm

Doctor MJ wrote: When I watch the film, I see Harden's ear blocking part of Ron's elbow. I understand that it looks like Ron's going to hit the neck, but the the swing follow an upward curve. Not saying that necessarily makes things worse, but looking at the hit the only neck damage I though of was a sideways whiplash. I was much more concerned for the various little bones by the jaw hinge and ear. Messing that up can make little things like eating hell.


What is worse is that Artest knew Harden's head was there and he swung full (looked like it) force elbow without even looking where it could land. He connected at the lower neck part but it could had been the ear or the temple just as well. He didn't even care to look where he was throwing it, that is psychotic behavior from a guy that simply cant comprehend his own actions.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#595 » by Weems » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:55 pm

That was disgusting, it was intent to injure and Harden could have been injured very badly. Whether he's okay or not shouldn't have any bearing on the punishment. Should be a hefty suspension extending into next season.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#596 » by MastaStrategist » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:55 pm

Kendrick Perkins: "Metta World Peace is a good dude so I know he wouldn't try to hurt nobody."
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#597 » by karkinos » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 pm

it wouldnt surprise me if he's suspended for the first round
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#598 » by MastaStrategist » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 pm

2-3 game suspension. You guys might laugh, but I've seen Ron break up more fights over the last 2 years than any other player in the L. I think he's really changed, and people are just looking at this thinking he's the same old Ron from '04. I think it was a clear "get off me while I'm celebrating move", not a "damn, perfect chance to give a guy a concussion move". This is the guy who sells his championship rings to fans, plays pick-up football games with fans, gives to dozens of charities and speaks out against bullying. You really need to look at the person he is now, not the person he was back when he was getting drunk in the locker room before games.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#599 » by hollabackitsobi » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 pm

Kalidogg24 wrote:
hollabackitsobi wrote:
Posts like this disgust me. You think I'm taking team affiliation into consideration here? This was a potentially life-threatening act of violence. ANY force applied to the head can result in traumatic, even fatal brain injury and trauma, especially when one is blindsided and not given enough time to prepare for or brace for a hit. Did you see how Harden's neck whipped? Seriously, Metta World Peace is one of the largest players in the NBA, but even JJ Barea could have caused injury had he taken a similar swing.

What World Peace did was vicious and has no place in the game of basketball.



What MWP was horrible and a mistake. He should be penalized accordingly .
But your acting like he's the first brusier the NBA has ever seen. Ever heard of Charles Oakley?
Lifetime Ban? GTFO




Don't act like I joined Realgm yesterday. All your post are Anti Laker regardless.
If Robin Lopez did something like this you wouldn't be so adamant about the his legal outcome and you know it's the truth.


It's pointless arguing with you. Judging by your posts I doubt you could even comprehend the severity of the situation. You still think this is some trifling RealGM "fan vs. fan argument".
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#600 » by revvolutions » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:57 pm

MastaStrategist wrote:Kendrick Perkins: "Metta World Peace is a good dude so I know he wouldn't try to hurt nobody."



Perk don't want nothing to do with them elbows.
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