Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

He Filled it Up · Post #821 » by **He Filled it Up** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:41 am

Jugs wrote:It would be a travesty if MWP missed out on this year's playoffs. he's been playing really well the past few weeks. gotta live with the consequences

but kicked out of the league permanently? I THOUGHT AMERICA WAS THE LAND OF SECOND CHANCES?

He already used that. Honestly, with his history there is legitimate cause for a lifetime ban. And there isn't anyway to defend him. He knew Harden was there and he swung for contact. The only way you can say it was an accident is that he got excited and acted in the moment, which this guy has a history of doing and isn't an excuse. He was ready to thrown down with Ibaka immediately afterwards.

Jimmy Recard · Post #822 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:41 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:Theres no doubt that he did it on purpose and it was a bad thing to do but really we're going **** over this.

The way i see it and i honestly believe this, a lot of youngsters get away with too much talking and doing too many chippy little things without getting a elbow in the skull. I bet Harden wont be purposefully getting in peoples way now or think twice before he thinks he has the right to talk some junk to a vet.

Could not believe it when i saw him jive talking with Kobe the other week, Harden you're a good player but really, you're trying to get in the grill of a guy whose got nearly 30 thousand points and 5 rings

Players can trash talk who ever the hell they want. I don't know what the hell you're going on about. Apparently to you, it's disrespectful for a young player to trash talk a vet, yet you condone a player elbowing a guy in the temple when hes not looking.

Banks2Pierce · Post #823 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:42 am

If this is Marquis Daniels or someone else with concussion history, this is possibly a career ender. You only get so many concussions before calling it a day. World Peace's "heat of the moment" issues are 10x worse than others'.

BBgun · Post #824 » by **BBgun** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:42 am

MastaStrategist wrote:
BBgun wrote:Also...watch the replay. He looks down the court after he dunks it. Even though he turns his head after, he has clearly seen that Harden is in his path. But most importantly, for any doubters, they make contact before the elbow. Harden's hand touches Artest's shoulder when he bumps into him. Its clearly a reactionary "Get the F out of my way while I'm celebrating" elbow. Not a "oops..I was elbowing the air and he accidentally got in my path" sort of thing.

I really don't think anyone's arguing if he threw it on purpose or not. Those who are, are delusional.

Lol I know, but the fact is, enough people in this giant thread have been arguing exactly that. I think theres a middle ground between "1 game suspension" and "lifetime ban" but it needs to be closer to the latter than the first option IMO. Reeeeally interested to see what Stern says and does about this. Should come by tomorrow, no?

Jeff23 · Post #825 » by **Jeff23** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:42 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:
Jeff23 wrote:the worst part about it that there are really some people who are defending this guy.

What he did was bad he should get like a 2 or 3 game ban but realistically im just so tired of guys like Harden or Ibaka or any 3 or 4 year player in the league pretending they are tough without any repercussions

what did Harden do man? How was he pretending to be tough in that situation?

carlosey · Post #826 » by **carlosey** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:42 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:
carlosey wrote:
0HeadAche0 wrote:I don't see what MWP has done wrong. Harden moved directly in his way after he dunked it.

Studio gangstas and floppers like Harden should get this kind of elbow more often. Really am sick of these youngsters who think they are all tough not getting any swift justice for being chippy and annoying.

What he did wrong was take a swing fully knowing there was someone there. Not where he hit him. There is no place for that in sports. Hes off by a few inches and he could have caused a very serious injury to harden. A concussion is nothing to laugh about.

get the hell out of his way then?

i am sick of this game of basketball being played by pussys and noone backing it up.

Get out of his way? Are you implying that the elbow is acceptable because harden was right there? I hope not.

Bottom line is that an elbow of that nature is unacceptable and Artest may face an extended suspension because of it. Unless harden was throwing elbows himself he really has nothing to do here other that be the guy that has a concussion.

Artest is a moron and should face at the very least a first round suspension.

0HeadAche0 · Post #827 » by **0HeadAche0** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:43 am

Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:
0HeadAche0 wrote:Theres no doubt that he did it on purpose and it was a bad thing to do but really we're going **** over this.

The way i see it and i honestly believe this, a lot of youngsters get away with too much talking and doing too many chippy little things without getting a elbow in the skull. I bet Harden wont be purposefully getting in peoples way now or think twice before he thinks he has the right to talk some junk to a vet.

Could not believe it when i saw him jive talking with Kobe the other week, Harden you're a good player but really, you're trying to get in the grill of a guy whose got nearly 30 thousand points and 5 rings

I am sensing some seriousness and then tad bit of trolling just to spice things up.

Im serious, what Ron did was bad no doubt but im so sick of this fake tough guy screaming when you dunk attitude that all these young guys have.

taj2133 · Post #828 » by **taj2133** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:43 am

once the lakers amnesty him he won't be in the league the lakers management are tired of this act he will be gone for good.

Mattya · Post #829 » by **Mattya** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:44 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:
Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:
0HeadAche0 wrote:Theres no doubt that he did it on purpose and it was a bad thing to do but really we're going **** over this.

The way i see it and i honestly believe this, a lot of youngsters get away with too much talking and doing too many chippy little things without getting a elbow in the skull. I bet Harden wont be purposefully getting in peoples way now or think twice before he thinks he has the right to talk some junk to a vet.

Could not believe it when i saw him jive talking with Kobe the other week, Harden you're a good player but really, you're trying to get in the grill of a guy whose got nearly 30 thousand points and 5 rings

I am sensing some seriousness and then tad bit of trolling just to spice things up.

Im serious, what Ron did was bad no doubt but im so sick of this fake tough guy screaming when you dunk attitude that all these young guys have.

-[Clippers]- · Post #830 » by **-[Clippers]-** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:46 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:Im serious, what Ron did was bad no doubt but im so sick of this fake tough guy screaming when you dunk attitude that all these young guys have.

Yeah, that attitude is disgusting... we need to get back to the "REAL man elbowing a defenseless player in the temple because of a slight accidental shove" attitude, that's a good one to have. :roll:

Ronito · Post #831 » by **Ronito** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:46 am

This is potentially a huge loss for OKC. Could be looking at a OKC vs. Dallas first round and maybe without Harden.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #832 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:46 am

It's clear this poster is still upset about Harden putting a beating on Kobe and getting in Kobe's face about it. Nothing to see here, move along, the bias is clear.

MastaStrategist · Post #833 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:47 am

-[Clippers]- wrote:
0HeadAche0 wrote:Im serious, what Ron did was bad no doubt but im so sick of this fake tough guy screaming when you dunk attitude that all these young guys have.

Yeah, that attitude is disgusting... we need to get back to the "REAL man elbowing a defenseless player in the temple because of a slight accidental shove" attitude, that's a good one to have.

That would be a terrible attitude. It's a good thing MWP didn't do that

Post #834 » by **Nuntius** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:47 am

Guys, MWP was not thinking about hurting Harden when he threw that elbow. In fact, he was not thinking at all.

And that's exactly the problem.

He cannot think when he is pumped up or angry. His thought process completely shuts off. And that's why he is dangerous.

I don't believe that he is a thug or anything. But he has shown times and times in his career that he probably is not sane.

BBgun · Post #835 » by **BBgun** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:47 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:
Im serious, what Ron did was bad no doubt but im so sick of this fake tough guy screaming when you dunk attitude that all these young guys have.

Soooo.....what exactly did Ron Ron do after the dunk today? He kinda, sorta beat his chest like a gorilla....before mauling an innocent player in the head.

Kobe2ndFiddle · Post #836 » by **Kobe2ndFiddle** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:48 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:
Kobe2ndFiddle wrote:
0HeadAche0 wrote:Theres no doubt that he did it on purpose and it was a bad thing to do but really we're going **** over this.

The way i see it and i honestly believe this, a lot of youngsters get away with too much talking and doing too many chippy little things without getting a elbow in the skull. I bet Harden wont be purposefully getting in peoples way now or think twice before he thinks he has the right to talk some junk to a vet.

Could not believe it when i saw him jive talking with Kobe the other week, Harden you're a good player but really, you're trying to get in the grill of a guy whose got nearly 30 thousand points and 5 rings

I am sensing some seriousness and then tad bit of trolling just to spice things up.

Im serious, what Ron did was bad no doubt but im so sick of this fake tough guy screaming when you dunk attitude that all these young guys have.

You're still going on about that game :lol:

-[Clippers]- · Post #837 » by **-[Clippers]-** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:48 am

MastaStrategist wrote:That would be a terrible attitude. It's a good thing MWP didn't do that

Yes, my mistake. Clearly, Harden was completely in the wrong for interfering with the completely innocent motion of St. Ron's elbow. :roll:

0HeadAche0 · Post #838 » by **0HeadAche0** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:48 am

I'm not biased towards Kobe at all, i wanted the Lakers to amnesty him

and have been saying it on this board for months.

My point is, yeah it was an overreaction from Artest but its not the end of the world. So many fake tough guys in the league and its nice to see one get put away once in a while

MastaStrategist · Post #839 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:50 am

Nuntius wrote:Guys, MWP was not thinking about hurting Harden when he threw that elbow. In fact, he was not thinking at all.

And that's exactly the problem.

He cannot think when he is pumped up or angry. His thought process completely shuts off. And that's why he is dangerous.

I don't believe that he is a thug or anything. But he has shown times and times in his career that he probably is not sane.

There's plenty of guys that don't think in the heat of the moment. You don't ban someone for life for it though. (Not saying you said that, but a lot of wannabe analysts on the web are)

-[Clippers]- · Post #840 » by **-[Clippers]-** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:50 am

0HeadAche0 wrote:So many fake tough guys in the league and its nice to see one get put away once in a while

So you'd be perfectly fine with someone lunging at Bynum's knee with intent to injure, for example? After all, it's apparently "nice to see fake tough guys get put away once in a while" in your world.