Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

-[Clippers]- · Post #881 » by **-[Clippers]-** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:16 am

MastaStrategist wrote:Based on the posts I've seen from you throughout my time here? Yes, I do.

But yet, clearly you haven't seen the posts I've made in this very thread.

-[Clippers]- wrote:I'd be just as disgusted if Artest was wearing a Bulls, Pacers, Kings, Rockets, even a Clippers uniform. I like Artest when he isn't pulling this ****, but I can't deny that he has become a complete and utter disgrace to the league.

Kobe2ndFiddle · Post #882 » by **Kobe2ndFiddle** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:17 am

pre-meditated:

"Im gonna swing my elbow into Harden's skull and make sure I cause bodily harm, that'll teach em"

intentional and stupid but not malicious:

"why is this guy getting in my space ? im gonna swing my elbow, if it hits him oh well, he was in my space while I was celebrating"

lodom7 · Post #883 » by **lodom7** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:18 am

hisairness wrote:
MBDTF wrote:I'm glad it happen to Harden and no one else.Let's see Harden talk his **** now

its fine to talk **** if you back it up with your basketball skills. Harden does that, so do all the good players. Talk **** to me and Ill come back and dunk on you or embarrass you either by dropping points on you or shutting you down. That belongs in basketball, what Ron did doesn't.

well, harden was staring down the bench all day, doing his usual stunts that really piss the other team off and he bumped right in to artest as he was pounding his chest, hopefully it will teach harden to talk less ****

Neutral 123 · Post #884 » by **Neutral 123** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:18 am

A couple of things to consider. Does the league give heavier weight to playoff games being missed? Previously I said the suspension will probably be in the 6-8 game range, but I was assuming Harden wouldn't miss anymore time. It'll definitely be more if he misses games, but I do think the league should weigh in Artest's favor that most of these games will be playoff games.

Lake Dynasty · Post #885 » by **Lake Dynasty** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:19 am

I think he is done for the year. That was just insane and with his history this is going to be a looong suspension i would expect. He shouldn't be surprised or upset with a long suspension either but he is certified crazy so you never know.

Glad Harden walked away from that with no serious injury.

MastaStrategist · Post #886 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:20 am

Effigy wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:
Conclusion wrote:I didn't think he purposefully meant to clock Harden. He was probably filled with testosterone and by his very erratic and violent nature clocked whoever got in his way for his celebration.

He still should be suspended for some games.

Agreed

You're both wrong. If he didn't mean to do it, some surprise would have registered on his face when his elbow slammed into another player's skull. He would have stopped to check on how the player was doing, not kept prancing down the court. There's no doubt at all it was intentional. Only the largest of homer would try to argue otherwise.

And how is he supposed to know he made contact with his skull? He was clearly high on adrenaline at that point. Pretty sure he didn't say to himself, "Hey, that felt like a skull". I understand why most people who don't know Ron outside of the crazy ish they've seen or heard about him doing can form these opinions though. I'm basing my opinion on what he meant or didn't mean with a more complete picture of the guy than most.

taj2133 · Post #887 » by **taj2133** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:21 am

harden had a concussion artest needs to be suspended for the rest playoffs just like hockey guy who got suspended for 25 games.

Jan_Sobieski · Post #888 » by **Jan_Sobieski** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:21 am

Is this the same guy that won a DPOY as well?

MastaStrategist · Post #889 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:22 am

-[Clippers]- wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote:Based on the posts I've seen from you throughout my time here? Yes, I do.

But yet, clearly you haven't seen the posts I've made in this very thread.

-[Clippers]- wrote:I'd be just as disgusted if Artest was wearing a Bulls, Pacers, Kings, Rockets, even a Clippers uniform. I like Artest when he isn't pulling this ****, but I can't deny that he has become a complete and utter disgrace to the league.

Which is easy to say when he's not wearing a Clippers jersey.

W/e man, I'll believe what I believe and you do the same.

[GR] · Post #890 » by **[GR]** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:27 am

Kendick Perkins went so far to call World Peace “a good dude.”
“So I know he wouldn’t try to hurt nobody,” Perkins said. “It happens and we just hope to have James back for the next game.”

qm22 · Post #891 » by **qm22** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:28 am

IMO Artest fully intended to elbow him but there is a chance that he didn't want to hit him in the head (but it does not seem that way). If he was not aiming for such a sensitive spot these type of plays with subtle shoves and elbows after a dunk when retrieving the ball for inbounding are very common. But it totally looked like he knew what he was doing and looked like he pretended not to know. The only other alternative for him not knowing he was going to hit such a sensitive spot is him being very dumb and aggressive.

-[Clippers]- · Post #892 » by **-[Clippers]-** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:29 am

MastaStrategist wrote: Which is easy to say when he's not wearing a Clippers jersey.

Well, if you want to get really technical, he WAS a Clipper back in 2006 for about ten minutes, until Corey Maggette failed his physical and the trade was voided.

MastaStrategist · Post #893 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:31 am

-[Clippers]- wrote:
MastaStrategist wrote: Which is easy to say when he's not wearing a Clippers jersey.

Well, if you want to get really technical, he WAS a Clipper back in 2006 for about ten minutes, until Corey Maggette failed his physical and the trade was voided.

I'd prefer not to get that technical lol.

jzmagik · Post #894 » by **jzmagik** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:31 am

at Westbrook and Ibaka waiting until Artest was safely out of distance before they went after him. They clearly wanted none of Artest.

Neutral 123 · Post #895 » by **Neutral 123** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:31 am

qm22 wrote:IMO Artest fully intended to elbow him but there is a chance that he didn't want to hit him in the head (but it does not seem that way). If he was not aiming for such a sensitive spot these type of plays with subtle shoves and elbows after a dunk when retrieving the ball for inbounding are very common. But it totally looked like he knew what he was doing and looked like he pretended not to know. The only other alternative for him not knowing he was going to hit such a sensitive spot is him being very dumb and aggressive.

The problem is he raised his arm above his head. I think people are dreaming if they think this won't be viewed as an intentional elbow to the head.

Neutral 123 · Post #896 » by **Neutral 123** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:34 am

jzmagik wrote::lol: at Westbrook and Ibaka waiting until Artest was safely out of distance before they went after him. They clearly wanted none of Artest.

Luckily it didn't turn into something that would have hurt OKC's title hopes more than potentially losing Harden. The Lakers really don't have much to play for, which is why I hated what happened at the end of the Dallas/Lakers series last year. A team with nothing to lose, potentially sabotaging a team that won the title.

pacmaniac · Post #897 » by **pacmaniac** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:36 am

You can see that Artest's arm bumped into Harden BEFORE he raised his elbow and slammed it into his head. He knew that Harden was there, and he still did it.

Also, I've never seen any athlete in any sport ever celebrate anything by throwing an elbow at thin air. Artest's explanation doesn't hold up. He should be banned for life.

sonicFLAME6 · Post #898 » by **sonicFLAME6** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:37 am

I think he's done for at least the first round, hopefully he's done for the year and possibly his career. You just don't do that, clearing space or not it was a blow to the head. It's not a flagrant 2 where the guy gets back up shoots his free throws as the game continues. He put Harden out with a concussion.
Pro sports take these concussions very serious. That's why the NBA changed it's policy and it's rules, any play not on the ball to the head is serious because what happened today is exactly what they are trying to avoid.
No doubt in my mind, that was intentional and he was trying to hurt th guy. Harden was destroying the Lakers as usual and if he's not taken out the game the Thunder win. Metta came in with the cheap shot and I hope he gets what he deserves.
This is not about the Lakers, it's about respecting the rules, the league and your fellow co-workers.

Amish Mafioso · Post #899 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:38 am

MastaStrategist wrote: I understand why most people who don't know Ron outside of the crazy ish they've seen or heard about him doing can form these opinions though. I'm basing my opinion on what he meant or didn't mean with a more complete picture of the guy than most.

I happen to know Ron personally, and he just sent me a text saying you're full of ****.

MastaStrategist · Post #900 » by **MastaStrategist** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:38 am

Neutral 123 wrote:
jzmagik wrote::lol: at Westbrook and Ibaka waiting until Artest was safely out of distance before they went after him. They clearly wanted none of Artest.

Luckily it didn't turn into something that would have hurt OKC's title hopes more than potentially losing Harden. The Lakers really don't have much to play for, which is why I hated what happened at the end of the Dallas/Lakers series last year. A team with nothing to lose, potentially sabotaging a team that won the title.

The Lakers don't have much to play for? Are they not in the playoffs, or did I miss something?