Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1441 » by spearsy23 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:14 pm

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Confiture wrote:I don't see how some people can find excuses for Artest.
Even if Harden ran into him, so what??
They bumped into each other so Artest fully knew that someone was right next to him. He should then have stopped his "celebration" but nooooo not Artest he doesn't give a **** and does this


those are some ABC caliber editing skills there.

Yes if you just look at the elbow part repeatedly it looks much worse than what actually took place.

In real time, the "celebration" takes place in less than 2 seconds. Im sorry to say that when you are that pumped up(dunking on ibaka and durant) those 2 seconds aren't enough time to stop and think rationally about who might be running up your back.

If it takes you more than about .2 seconds to think, oh hey I probably shouldn't elbow this guy in the head as hard as I can. You either have an IQ well below 75, or are simply a violent person who shouldn't be allowed on the court. Has anybody else ever given someone a concussion because they were ran into during a celebration? We all know Artest isn't smart, we all know Artest is a hothead, what is left that's still going for the guy? What makes you want to apologize for him? Just the fact he's on your favorite team?

Also, this is all ignoring that Artest knew exactly what he was doing. He didn't stop to see what happened after the elbow, he looked up court after the dunk, and I'm making the assumption he has some sort of peripheral vision. Harden got in front of him, HOW DARE YOU make contact with a guy on a basketball court?!
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1442 » by kobeaki » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:14 pm

Thundestruck wrote:I love the Harden was asking for it responses. The Thunder were trying to inbound the ball. Artest is running around like a crazy person but somehow it is Harden's fault.

so why then did harden shuffle his feet into artest, when artest wasnt even looking at him?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1443 » by Leto » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:14 pm

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Leto wrote:It doesn't matter if Harden "ran up and got in his way." That's ridiculous. The entire game is people "running up and getting in your way."


so the saying is Harden wanted to get the ball inbounded to him and instead of avoiding traffic you run into it to get the ball in bounded to you?


The only thing that makes this relevant is that Artest knew he was there and therefore hit him with intent and malice. because outside of that, Harden did exactly ZERO wrong. for all you know he could have been trying to set a pick, which is a completely LEGAL basketball play.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1444 » by Leto » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:15 pm

kobeaki wrote:
Thundestruck wrote:I love the Harden was asking for it responses. The Thunder were trying to inbound the ball. Artest is running around like a crazy person but somehow it is Harden's fault.

so why then did harden shuffle his feet into artest, when artest wasnt even looking at him?


Since when is setting a pick a dirty basketball play?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1445 » by LApwnd » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:18 pm

Leto wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
Leto wrote:It doesn't matter if Harden "ran up and got in his way." That's ridiculous. The entire game is people "running up and getting in your way."


so the saying is Harden wanted to get the ball inbounded to him and instead of avoiding traffic you run into it to get the ball in bounded to you?


The only thing that makes this relevant is that Artest knew he was there and therefore hit him with intent and malice. because outside of that, Harden did exactly ZERO wrong. for all you know he could have been trying to set a pick, which is a completely LEGAL basketball play.



artest was going to hit somebody regardless of who it was, all i'm saying is it could've been avoided.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1446 » by Dr Pepper » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:19 pm

The punishment will be severe and justifiably so.

What Artest did followed in the footsteps of another Rudy Tomjanovich incident

Sucks for Artest since he's been trying to reshape his image, but that doesn't delete his infamous history or just how dangerous it was. The timing is also terrible since the playoffs are around the corner.

NBA needs to make an example out of Artest.....again.......
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1447 » by kobeaki » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:19 pm

Leto wrote:
kobeaki wrote:
Thundestruck wrote:I love the Harden was asking for it responses. The Thunder were trying to inbound the ball. Artest is running around like a crazy person but somehow it is Harden's fault.

so why then did harden shuffle his feet into artest, when artest wasnt even looking at him?


Since when is setting a pick a dirty basketball play?


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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1448 » by INKtastic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:19 pm

LApwnd wrote:perspective, I see Harden delibertely get in Artest way he knew what he was doing, Artest didn't see who was in his way and felt contact and swung, Artest is a nut case no way to justify his actions just saying Harden could've avoided it altogether but like his Chanlder incident he wanted to get in there but forunately there wasn't enough room to flop like he did against Chandler and got the full force, whatever Artest is suspended for I would not argue it he deserves every bit of that suspension.


see my post at the top of page 80 and then explain how not knowing who was there is somehow supposed to make it better? THe two closest players to Artest when he turned towards them were Harden and Kobe. Nobody else was close enough to make contact on that side of him a couple of steps later.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1449 » by Leto » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:20 pm

kobeaki wrote:
Since when is setting a pick a dirty basketball play?


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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1450 » by chrbal » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:21 pm

The sad thing is, is that its very easy to believe he didn't even realize he did it until later. Hes unstable.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1451 » by Vincent 666 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:24 pm

People are overreacting. Artest wasnt even looking at Harden. Artest was going into his celebration and clocked him without realizing it. From Artests reaction running up court, I dont think he even knew he elbowed Harden.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1452 » by Thundestruck » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:25 pm

kobeaki wrote:
Thundestruck wrote:I love the Harden was asking for it responses. The Thunder were trying to inbound the ball. Artest is running around like a crazy person but somehow it is Harden's fault.

so why then did harden shuffle his feet into artest, when artest wasnt even looking at him?


What are you talking about? From the video it never looks like their feet touch?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1453 » by Sky_Knicks » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:26 pm

Still not as unstable and filthy a human being as Garnett :lol:
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1454 » by SichtingLives » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:29 pm

Incidental contact between 2 players of opposing teams following a made basket is as old and common a thing as there is in the sport of basketball. Some people are really exposing themselves as fools trying to push an agenda on that one.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1455 » by Dr Pepper » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm

Vincent 666 wrote:People are overreacting. Artest wasnt even looking at Harden. Artest was going into his celebration and clocked him without realizing it. From Artests reaction running up court, I dont think he even knew he elbowed Harden.


He probably didn't know it was Harden specifically, but unless Artest has some Ong Bak elbows then he would have felt his elbow hitting someone's head, especially how far he cocked it back and the nasty follow through.

There's no worthwhile excuse for Artest here. Would not be surprising to see him get blacklisted from NBA activities
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1456 » by rayofsunshine » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm

Sky_Knicks wrote:Still not as unstable and filthy a human being as Garnett :lol:


What has KG done that is worse?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1457 » by Leto » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm

LApwnd wrote:
artest was going to hit somebody regardless of who it was, all i'm saying is it could've been avoided.


What you're saying is people should stay out of Artest's way because he could elbow them in the head. Now, let's apply that rule from now on with other players. Next time OKC or anyone plays the Lakers, someone should hit Kobe in the face with a baseball bat when Kobe gets in their way. After all, Kobe could avoid that by just staying out of the way.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1458 » by Prop » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm

i dunno how anyone can blame this on harden. okay, so he got close to artest, he tried to impede his progress...and?

players intentionally bump into each other like 400 times a game. if we're making hellbows an acceptable reaction to that type of contact...then the game would be cancelled after 5 minutes because everyone would have head injuries.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1459 » by USA » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm

I just hope Metta's elbow is ok.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1460 » by Jan_Sobieski » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:30 pm

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