Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

Cavsfan9000 · Post #1541 » by **Cavsfan9000** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:32 pm

SweetTouch wrote:
Sky_Knicks wrote:The elbow was over the top, but if people don't realize Harden was trying to draw a foul/get artest riled up, they're not paying attention.

This
After watching it over a lot Harden seems to do this a lot to look for a reaction

MWP was tired or it. harden is like a quiet troll

that is a legitimate part of the game

you are intellectually dishonest

TheXFactor · Post #1542 » by **TheXFactor** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:32 pm

schneiderjazz wrote:Not saying Harden didn't instigate Artest into doing something, but an elbow to the back of the head is inexcusable. If Bynum got 10 games for what he did to Barea, Artest should get at least 20, since he has a history of pulling this kind of crap.

Bynum got 5 games, and I think Bynum was way worse. Deliberately going after someone in mid air is worse to me than Peace elbow.

Peace had no intention to deliberately hurt someone. It was just that Harden got in his way on purpose and Peace responded with an elbow.

toddlincoln · Post #1543 » by **toddlincoln** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:32 pm

I love the nonstop victim blaming going on in this thread.

I guess its hard being a Lakers fan, what with having a rapist, a psychotic maniac, and a cheapshot artist (Bynum) in the starting lineup.

SVictor · Post #1544 » by **SVictor** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:33 pm

Lol at some LA fans still trying to excuse MWP. I guess the'd be fine with Harden getting suspended for this :lol:

Neutral 123 · Post #1545 » by **Neutral 123** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:34 pm

It seems this Lakers team gets 'provoked' pretty easily. Dallas provoked them last year by sweeping them and as a result the Lakers had a right to take cheap shots at them all through the series.

Vincent 666 · Post #1546 » by **Vincent 666** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:35 pm

SVictor wrote:Lol at some LA fans still trying to excuse MWP. I guess the'd be fine with Harden getting suspended for this

If Hardens face injured Artests elbow, then yes Harden should be suspended.

Cavsfan9000 · Post #1547 » by **Cavsfan9000** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:36 pm

toddlincoln wrote:I love the nonstop victim blaming going on in this thread.

I guess its hard being a Lakers fan, what with having a rapist, a psychotic maniac, and a cheapshot artist (Bynum) in the starting lineup.

Harden has a beard and that is the basketball equivalent of a girl wearing a short skirt.

He was just asking for it.

Aether46 · Post #1548 » by **Aether46** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:38 pm

Harden wanted it, and he got it

Leto · Post #1549 » by **Leto** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:39 pm

TheXFactor wrote:
schneiderjazz wrote:Not saying Harden didn't instigate Artest into doing something, but an elbow to the back of the head is inexcusable. If Bynum got 10 games for what he did to Barea, Artest should get at least 20, since he has a history of pulling this kind of crap.

Bynum got 5 games, and I think Bynum was way worse. Deliberately going after someone in mid air is worse to me than Peace elbow.

Peace had no intention to deliberately hurt someone. It was just that Harden got in his way on purpose and Peace responded with an elbow.

when you wind up and elbow someone like that, it is deliberate and there can be no other intent but injury. So, you're way off base on that.

You have a good point in the Bynum suspension as a precedent. All I would say is that Artest has a very bad reputation based on history and if I were commish, I'd ban him permanantly.

humblebum · Post #1550 » by **humblebum** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:40 pm

SashAlex wrote:
humblebum wrote:People who think Harden was somehow to blame for what happened must be either blind or Lakers fans, which, in my experience are similar conditions (Celtics fan... hehehe). Harden was going to accept the inbound pass and Artest went insane asylum and tried to knock Harden out. Leave the naivete at home, Artest is a complete nutjob and should be done for the season and playoffs for this type of craziness based on his track record and the violence of this particular act.

Pure Celtic logic.

When you're getting ready and want to get a pass from inbounds, you're getting away from opposite players to be open to receive the ball with no pressing. I didn't say it's Harden's fault. It's Artest's. What I meant is that, considering it was Harden, knowing that he loves to get in the people's way, like last year vs Dallas with Chandler, he deserved it in a way. It's pure Artest's falut. But because it was Harden, and clearly seeing that he was slightly pushing Artest to provoke him, he might deserved that.

I expect 3-5 games of suspension to MWP.

LOL... I smell BS.

Harden was LOOKING AT THE INBOUNDS PASSER and he was WALKING IN THE EXACT DIRECTION OF SAID PASSER. Artest was running AWAY from that exact spot as Harden was walking towards that spot to retrieve the ball from the man out of bounds.

Artest is probably slightly sociopathic honestly. Harden had absolutely nothing to do with causing that absolute lunatic to do what he did. I would totally support a indefinite suspension on Artest based on what he did and based on his HISTORY kicking him out of the league should be discussed. He could've seriously injured Harden with that vicious blow to the head and he's a constant threat to injure when he's on the court.

If that's Celtics fan logic than so be it. Artest is a danger to society.

SVictor · Post #1551 » by **SVictor** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:40 pm

toddlincoln wrote:I love the nonstop victim blaming going on in this thread.

I guess its hard being a Lakers fan, what with having a rapist, a psychotic maniac, and a cheapshot artist (Bynum) in the starting lineup.

sefant77 · Post #1552 » by **sefant77** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:42 pm

SweetTouch wrote:
Sky_Knicks wrote:The elbow was over the top, but if people don't realize Harden was trying to draw a foul/get artest riled up, they're not paying attention.

This
After watching it over a lot Harden seems to do this a lot to look for a reaction

MWP was tired or it. harden is like a quiet troll

this this this. He is looking for the contact. He is walking right into Artests path.

He was looking for this the same way he looked for Chandlers ellbow last year...Artest is an idiot but Harden is a flopping troll (no, here he didnt flop).

Throwback24 · Post #1553 » by **Throwback24** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:43 pm

100 pg thread in a day and a half? Biggest thing to happen in the NBA for years?

humblebum · Post #1554 » by **humblebum** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:44 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
LApwnd wrote:really? so people screen on inbound play all the time? again never have I justified Artest actions, all I said was Harden could've avoided the contact all together, it was NOT a screen, a screen for what? there were 3 OKC Players that could've been inboudned to.

Actually, it's one of the smartest screens in basketball. Not that I think Harden was setting one. You screen a guy to create a mismatch, in this case it would have been Durant's defender.

What Harden was doing was moving towards the outside of the lane, which is where most guys usually go to get the inbound pass. Watch the damn video, Harden isn't even looking at Artest, he's looking at the inbounder and he puts his arms up in a natural defensive motion to keep from running into Artest. Then look at Ibaka in the background, he turns to throw the ball to Harden before he sees him get elbowed, everything points to Harden trying to get the inbound pass and just happening to be in front of Artest. This happens so many times every game it's one of the most common things to see, a guy goes to a spot to get the pass and happens to run into the guy that's there. Generally, no big deal. Since it's idiotic ****tard Artest, he decides to take a cheap shot.

Absolutely correct. Harden is making a commonplace basketball play to get the ball from the inbound passer and Artest goes absolutely nutty. Not a basketball play in the slightest and it's completely and utterly unprovoked. No penalty would be too harsh on Artest given the dramatic nature of what he did here and his history of these types of plays. There should be no place in this league for that type of stuff.

Leto · Post #1555 » by **Leto** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:45 pm

sefant77 wrote:
SweetTouch wrote:
Sky_Knicks wrote:The elbow was over the top, but if people don't realize Harden was trying to draw a foul/get artest riled up, they're not paying attention.

This
After watching it over a lot Harden seems to do this a lot to look for a reaction

MWP was tired or it. harden is like a quiet troll

this this this. He is looking for the contact. He is walking right into Artests path.

He was looking for this the same way he looked for Chandlers ellbow last year...Artest is an idiot but Harden is a flopping troll (no, here he didnt flop).

You have no point.

Edrees · Post #1556 » by **Edrees** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:45 pm

JazzD15 wrote:People defending this really need to get their heads examined.

And I don't mean by just an M.D., but by a team of doctors in Vienna.

Nobody's defending it. they are just saying it warrants 5-10 game ban not a 20+ game ban. I fail to see how calling an act despicable and wrong and asking for a player to be banned 8 games for it is "defending" it.

spearsy23 · Post #1557 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 pm

Throwback24 wrote:100 pg thread in a day and a half? Biggest thing to happen in the NBA for years?

That combined with the inordinate number of homers the Lakers have.

spearsy23 · Post #1558 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm

Leto wrote:
TheXFactor wrote:
schneiderjazz wrote:Not saying Harden didn't instigate Artest into doing something, but an elbow to the back of the head is inexcusable. If Bynum got 10 games for what he did to Barea, Artest should get at least 20, since he has a history of pulling this kind of crap.

Bynum got 5 games, and I think Bynum was way worse. Deliberately going after someone in mid air is worse to me than Peace elbow.

Peace had no intention to deliberately hurt someone. It was just that Harden got in his way on purpose and Peace responded with an elbow.

when you wind up and elbow someone like that, it is deliberate and there can be no other intent but injury. So, you're way off base on that.

You have a good point in the Bynum suspension as a precedent. All I would say is that Artest has a very bad reputation based on history and if I were commish, I'd ban him permanantly.

Bynum's did at least happen while the ball was in play.

schneiderjazz · Post #1559 » by **schneiderjazz** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:47 pm

TheXFactor wrote:
schneiderjazz wrote:Not saying Harden didn't instigate Artest into doing something, but an elbow to the back of the head is inexcusable. If Bynum got 10 games for what he did to Barea, Artest should get at least 20, since he has a history of pulling this kind of crap.

Bynum got 5 games, and I think Bynum was way worse. Deliberately going after someone in mid air is worse to me than Peace elbow.

Peace had no intention to deliberately hurt someone. It was just that Harden got in his way on purpose and Peace responded with an elbow.

Thought Bynum got 10 games, but it was indeed 5.
I don't think you throw an elbow at someone's head without trying to hurt the person. Harden was in front of Artest, but he wasn't looking at him, he was looking at Ibaka. It was just as bad as what Bynum did IMO and since Artest has a history, and he's not a young star, he should get more games tha Bynum did.

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