Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season

[Klomp]

Yes, i believe so.

Iggy is the guy who's grossly overpaid, AV is paid just about right.

Without Iguodala, Philadelphia is nowhere near the playoffs this year. He is a lot like Rubio in that his impact on the game goes far beyond the box score. Andre is an ELITE defender, I would maybe consider Varejao above average.

Varejao does nothing for me. We'd be paying 10 mil per year for a backup center. No thanks!

[eyeteeth]

OK, I don't care how it happens, but this is what I want our starting lineup to look like next year:

Rubio
Wes Mathews
Andre Iguodala
Kevin Love
Pek

The only thing is I am not at all certain there's a way to get there.

[Philly Wolf]

Rubio
Igudala
Ariza
Love
Pek

[Klomp]

People are going to hate me for saying this, but if we somehow got Iguodala here, I would be okay with Wes Johnson or even Wayne Ellington as our other starting wing.

[pumunga]

"We need better ball handling throughout the lineup, not just the point guards, and better perimeter scoring," he said. "We don't have that. I don't think we realized how hard it was going to be to replace people. We had made real strides until the all-star break. Then we fell apart. You have to evaluate how much better people can get and where do we go as far as adding depth to this team."

Free agents and potentially available players

Eric Gordon
Monta Ellis
Tyreke Evans
Wilson Chandler
OJ Mayo
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Rodney Stuckey
J.R. Smith
Chase Budinger
Rudy Fernandez

any1 of them would be fine by me..
if adelman doesnt wanna wait then he can leave

[jade_hippo]

People are going to hate me for saying this, but if we somehow got Iguodala here, I would be okay with Wes Johnson or even Wayne Ellington as our other starting wing.

I hate to say it but I'd be ok with it too. The expectation on them would be so infinitely small they'd have no choice but to look ok. Depending on the machup we could swing Luke/Lee/Wayne/Wes in and out of the starting 5.

[Grits n Gravy]

People are going to hate me for saying this, but if we somehow got Iguodala here, I would be okay with Wes Johnson or even Wayne Ellington as our other starting wing.

it's a massive hell no from me for wes starting again...i'd be okay with him coming off the bench not playing significant minutes to see if he can improve, but starting? hell no from me.

[AQuintus]

Honestly, I'll be a little upset if Wes is even still on the team next year. If he's still a starter at one of the wing positions, then Kahn and the Adelmans will have messed up.

[Klomp]

If he's still a starter at one of the wing positions, then Kahn and the Adelmans will have messed up.

So even if we traded for someone like Kevin Durant or Dwight Howard, and had Wes Johnson starting on the wing with them, you'd still consider it a failure? Okay... (yes I know its extreme, but so are some of the takes I'm reading here)

if adelman doesnt wanna wait then he can leave

You'd let a coach walk because he's unhappy with mediocrity?

[AQuintus]

So even if we traded for someone like Kevin Durant or Dwight Howard, and had Wes Johnson starting on the wing with them, you'd still consider it a failure? Okay... (yes I know its extreme, but so are some of the takes I'm reading here)

Yes and no. It wouldn't be a failure of an offseason. It would be a failure to upgrade one of the wing positions, which the HAVE to do, and considering they'd just have to find someone better than Johnson, that shouldn't be hard at all.

[shangrila]

If he's still a starter at one of the wing positions, then Kahn and the Adelmans will have messed up.

So even if we traded for someone like Kevin Durant or Dwight Howard, and had Wes Johnson starting on the wing with them, you'd still consider it a failure? Okay... (yes I know its extreme, but so are some of the takes I'm reading here)

Yes. Someone from the D League would be better than Wes. Even if they somehow pulled off your stupid example, having Wes as a starter is still a failure.

[LordBaldric]

Wes is a complete and total bum.

[moss_is_1]

I have a soft spot for Wes...maybe it's that smile? I give him more leeway then others...but I can't see a reason for him to be starting next year...Unless he somehow significantly improves over the offseason. His d is average at best, and even though his 3ball has been better post all-star(almost 40%), he still just doesn't do a whole lot out there.

[Calinks]

Iggy would be nice but we need some outside scoring.

[Grits n Gravy]

Iggy would be nice but we need some outside scoring.

imagine getting iggy and ray allen in one off season
sincerely doubt he would consider here and pretty sure he'll command something just above the MLE(i guess this is all we'd have after adding iggy's salary) but one can dream

ricky
ray
iggy
love
pek

thats a championship contending starting 5

[black bart]

Well it is time to overpay one player for 4 years since rubio and love contract will be up at the same time. There isn't any danger in overpaying a player. This team should be a playoff (top 5 in the west) team next year.

[AQuintus]

DW for Matthews and blazers pick

I thought about it, and I changed my mind. I would do this even if it's Portland's actual pick, but only if we could get Lamb there. If we then do my Iggy trade from earlier, we'd have:

Pekovic/ Camby (or Hayes)
Love/ Camby (or Hayes)
Iggy/ Matthews
Matthews/ Lamb
Rubio/ Barea

That looks like a pretty good team with plenty of room to develop and improve to me.

[Klomp]

Iggy would be nice but we need some outside scoring.

I disagree. What we need more than anything is an elite defender. We can score points with anyone. But since Rubio went down, we haven't been able to stop anyone.

The addition of Iguodala would do so many things for this team. First, it would give this young team another veteran leader. I know that often goes unnoticed and some here feel thats the coach's job, but the coach needs an extension of himself on the court and in the locker room too. I'm sick of reading how OKC never added any veteran leaders so we don't need to either. That's a bunch of bull!

As mentioned, he would also give us an elite defender on the wings. Wes Johnson is doing his best out there to be the team's defensive stopper on the wings, but it simply isn't good enough.

No he's not an elite scorer like Durant or Bryant, but I don't believe we need that on this team. Kevin Love has proven that he can be a number one scorer for this team. What we need is just an all-around good player. We have a lot of players who are just good on one side of the ball. Is Iguodala overpaid? Possibly. But with the contracts many of you want to shell out to Batum and others, they would be just as overpaid. At least Iguodala has one thing he is elite at. Batum doesn't at this point.

Here's a good write-up on Iguodala from earlier this year:

The proof is in the pudding. With players like Louis Williams, Brand, Thaddeus Young, Evan Turner and Jrue Holiday, the Sixers are at their best with a balanced scoring attack. In years past, Iguodala was hesitant to defer to teammates, even though he’s never had the best shot or the best handle. This season, he’s taking just 10.1 shots a game, his lowest total since his second year. As a result, he’s also averaging just 12.9 points per game, the lowest total since his sophomore season. But those numbers don’t tell the real story.

By taking less shots, Iguodala has elevated the play of his teammates and himself. He’s shooting a career-high 37.3 percent from beyond the arc and connecting on 45 percent of his shots because the shots he does take are better looks. By spending less energy jacking up shots, he has more in the tank to do all the other things he’s so good at. As it stands, he’s averaging a career high in rebounds (6.6), while also doling out 5 assists and swiping two steals a game, all while guarding every team’s best perimeter scorer night in and night out.

And while he’s always been given his due as an elite defender, he’s been criticized for his decision-making on the offensive end for what seems like his entire career. If you’ve been paying attention, that criticism no longer holds any weight; at least, not so far this season. That’s evident by an insane stretch he’s on right now. In the past 11 games, Iguodala has 68 assists to just 19 turnovers, including a 10-10-10 triple-double and an all-around dominant performance Monday night against the fledgling Magic. I repeat, 68 assists to just 19 turnovers. As a small forward. On a young team. Playing 5-6 games a week. Show me another small forward with those type of point-guard-esqe numbers, and I’ll show you a player who gets a ton of praise.
http://www.thesportsfanjournal.com/colu ... n-the-nba/

I'd also say that part of the reason Iguodala's scoring is down is because he has to play the role of facilitator. If he came here to play with Rubio, part of that burden would be lifted, allowing him to focus more on his scoring.

He is the type of player who will do what it takes to give his team the win.He doesn't have to shoot 25 times a game. He's content with playing defense, facilitating the offense, and scoring opportunistic baskets. That's the kind of wing we need in Minnesota.

[Krapinsky]

Why is Phili going to trade us Iggy for peanuts again?

[Krapinsky]

I have a feeling it's going to be Tyreke. Kahn has a history of getting the guys he's been rumored to covet. We'll make a play for Tyreke and try to sign Batum.

Wes + 16 + Webster for Tyreke + Hayes.

Williams + Miller for Batum in a S&T?