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Official John Wall Appreciation Thread

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1161 » by DCZards » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:35 pm

hands11 wrote:Year three should be rather impressive for John.


Only if he learns how to shoot the rock. Right now, JW's shooting is horrific. He will never live up to his tremendous potential (and get JonathanJoseph off his back :D ) if he doesn't become a much better shooter. It was good to read that Wall realizes he made a mistake last summer by barnstorming the country playing in EVERY charity game rather than working on his shooting and other aspects of his game. I expect this offseason to be much different for Johnny Ballgame.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1162 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:41 pm

I like how hard John plays now as his confidence is growing. I love how enthusiastic and also how confident Wall has been since the trade. Having big men who move well without the ball, who can convert off the dribble, who can get deep post position, and who can pass the ball back to John is making him better.

I can't see John Wall not shooting better next season.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1163 » by miller31time » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:52 pm

We do have a problem, though. It's not a coincidence John's recent play has coincided with Jordan Crawford receiving less minutes due to the injury. The two don't mesh and Crawford simply isn't efficient or smart enough to warrant the usage rate he boasts when healthy.

However, you can't just sit Crawford. At least, our coaching staff won't simply sit him because the two don't mesh. He was too big a part of the team this year to push him to the bench.

The ideal scenario would be to draft Beal and have Crawford come in as the 6th-man gunner. Try as hard as you can to not have him on the court with Wall for too long.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1164 » by Illuminaire » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:37 pm

The ideal scenario is to trade Crawford for a mid-1st round pick and snap up a value player in a deep draft.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1165 » by miller31time » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:04 pm

Illuminaire wrote:The ideal scenario is to trade Crawford for a mid-1st round pick and snap up a value player in a deep draft.


I have a hard time imagining a team forking up the 15th pick for Jordan Crawford.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1166 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:05 pm

DCZards wrote:
hands11 wrote:Year three should be rather impressive for John.


Only if he learns how to shoot the rock. Right now, JW's shooting is horrific. He will never live up to his tremendous potential (and get JonathanJoseph off his back :D ) if he doesn't become a much better shooter. It was good to read that Wall realizes he made a mistake last summer by barnstorming the country playing in EVERY charity game rather than working on his shooting and other aspects of his game. I expect this offseason to be much different for Johnny Ballgame.


Yeah. It was good to hear him say that.

He doesn't even need to become a stellar shooter. That's what is so interesting. He just has to become not terrible and continue to be more reliable about when he takes shots. Again, he only needs to hit from a couple locations and in a couple of modes. i.e. off that cross over from top of the key and while slowing down off the fast break at the top of the key.

I feel confident he will add that. I think it is much more clear to him now what he needs to add and how he needs to approach the game.

This team is very interesting. They have a burner in Wall but they also have two legit player they can feed in the post and Ves is turning into a finisher who you can feed for dunks and alley opps. And Ves may end up being a very reliable rebounder. He has all the tools to become on. Just needs to get a little stronger. Ves developing that way if what makes it so you don't miss McGee at all. Ves does a lot of the same types of things and he is going to get better at it. Plus, he is already smarter about it.

Adding another option in the front court like a Davis or Robinson would almost be unfar. If JS and Ves become solid versions of what they are already showing, they would be a nasty front court.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1167 » by Halcyon » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:36 pm

miller31time wrote:
Illuminaire wrote:The ideal scenario is to trade Crawford for a mid-1st round pick and snap up a value player in a deep draft.


I have a hard time imagining a team forking up the 15th pick for Jordan Crawford.

I would just rid of him outright, for like a future pick or something. I have a feeling he will not be happy being the 6th man gunner on a losing team like this one, when that's what his role should be.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1168 » by Illuminaire » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:11 am

miller31time wrote:
Illuminaire wrote:The ideal scenario is to trade Crawford for a mid-1st round pick and snap up a value player in a deep draft.


I have a hard time imagining a team forking up the 15th pick for Jordan Crawford.


That's why it's the ideal scenario, not the likely one. :wink:
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1169 » by theboomking » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:19 am

Supposed to be working but am looking at a little youtube tonight. I enjoyed this one. Eyepopping athleticism. Watching Wall rack up all these assists in the last 6 games has me feeling like he is a 15-17 foot jumper, and a core of talented teamates away from being a superstar.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6AR1LUxhZo&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1170 » by montestewart » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:51 am

miller31time wrote:
Illuminaire wrote:The ideal scenario is to trade Crawford for a mid-1st round pick and snap up a value player in a deep draft.


I have a hard time imagining a team forking up the 15th pick for Jordan Crawford.

Did you ever see that movie, Wolves Board Time Machine? I liked where the one guy said, "I have a hard time imagining a team forking up the 5th pick for Miller and Foye expirings." Pure comic genius.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1171 » by fishercob » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:42 pm

I appreciate John trashing Nick and Javale in the paper today!
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1172 » by FAH1223 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:49 pm

Had a dream we made the playoffs next year due to Wall's development.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1173 » by nate33 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:05 pm

fishercob wrote:I appreciate John trashing Nick and Javale in the paper today!

What Fish is talking about:
Mike Lee of the Washington Post wrote:“At times it was tough because you had guys like Nick and JaVale; they wanted the ball a lot and took a lot of shots. It’s kind of tough to find what kind of team it was with them,” John Wall said, throwing his support behind the deal for Nene. “I think it was the right decision. We had a lot of jokes and stuff going around the locker room, but [now] the energy is more serious, everybody is being on time, taking things more serious, being professional about everything. We just interacting more as a team.”
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1174 » by jimij » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:48 pm

You could tell even in the first few games after the trade that Wall appreciated being around more professional players all the time (between the two who left, the benching of AB and the exile of Lewis who just didn't want to be here).

He's definitely even happier now that we are winning more but I thought his attitude change was instantaneous.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1175 » by miller31time » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:01 pm

Those comments are no surprise. The kid has been a winner his entire life. And then he gets drafted by the Wizards and suddenly, everything is ass-backwards. Even for as young as he is, I'm sure that he absolutely hated the nonchalant losing culture we had here with Nick, Javale and AB.
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Post#1176 » by Spence » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:11 pm

Hard to imagine John's burning any bridges with those comments because I doubt he was that tight with those guys anyway.

The trade for Nene is a big part of this, but I suspect telling Andray Blatche to go away and replacing him with guys like James Singleton, Cartier Martin and such, is also a contributory factor. Having guys on the team who are thrilled to be in the NBA instead of guys who are just happy cashing a fat paycheck must make a difference in the atmosphere around the team. Money matters to all those guys, just as it does to relative paupers like us, but some guys want to earn their money and others just want it. Makes a difference.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1177 » by MF23 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:11 pm

Glad to see that comment from John Wall. Not surprising but nice to see.

I'm sure John Wall learned how to build a tank this season because he was a different player once the NOH went out of reach. I don't begrudge it, they were built to stink this season. He's a smart young man displaying perspective though I'd doubt he'd ever admit it.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1178 » by cdouglas » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:28 pm

Remember the situation Lebron was in his first season with the Cavs. They traded off Miles and Ricky Davis because it was hard for Lebron to do what he did best with them on the team. I don't think they were willing to take orders from the rookie. Well I believe it was hard for Wall to do what he did best with Blatche, McGee and Young. I read on the board where some of you are against Crawford being on the team. Well after reading a comment he made about having a hard time having to play after Young when he returned, I too think it would be best to replace Crawford. The ball needs to be in Wall's hands and the team looked really good in the games with Crawford.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1179 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:50 pm

cdouglas wrote:Remember the situation Lebron was in his first season with the Cavs. They traded off Miles and Ricky Davis because it was hard for Lebron to do what he did best with them on the team. I don't think they were willing to take orders from the rookie. Well I believe it was hard for Wall to do what he did best with Blatche, McGee and Young. I read on the board where some of you are against Crawford being on the team. Well after reading a comment he made about having a hard time having to play after Young when he returned, I too think it would be best to replace Crawford. The ball needs to be in Wall's hands and the team looked really good in the games with Crawford.


I think Crawford and Wall need to spend less time on the court together but I don't want Crawford gone. I think he can become a really good 6th man - so we just need to find a starting 2.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 

Post#1180 » by Rafael122 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:59 pm

Crawford's ideal role is on the second team providing instant offense off the bench. I wouldn't trade him, it sounds like the kid hates losing as well. You need guys like that.
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