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Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards?

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Sam Cassell
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Jeff Van Gundy
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22%
Brian Shaw
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Bill Laimbeer
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Dave Joerger
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Other (who cares, as long as it's not Friggin' Flip!)
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#301 » by hands11 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 pm

nate33 wrote:
rockymac52 wrote:The way I see it, no matter who we get in this draft, or what free agents we get, or which of our current players make giant strides this coming season, the Wizards aren't going to make the playoffs next year. I wouldn't be surprised if they found themselves in line for another top 5 pick in 2013. Even if they improve somewhat, I find it hard to believe this team won't be a bottom 10 team in the league next year. AKA, we're going to lose a lot more than we win.

I disagree completely. This team has been respectable ever since dumping McGee and Young. And we've been downright good when Nene plays. Even without the addition of a draft pick, I think this is a 35-win team fighting for an 8th seed next year, maybe a bit better if Wall makes The Leap. And if our draft pick turns out to be an impact player in his rookie year, I think .500 basketball is within reach


Only way I see them being really bad again next year is if they change to much. A new GM and new coach would definitely put at risk the direction on chemistry that I actually like.

This is one of the reason I want Randy back and I want EG for one more year. Not sure if they can do a one year on EG so I would say they should do a two year if that is what it takes and Randy for one. Let it ride and then evaluate. I want them to keep things the same but don't lock in so they can adjust if needed.

Oh, good one in support of Randy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

John Wall learns from previous mistake to lead Wizards to win in Miami

Wall and Nene worked a high pick-and-roll, Wall drove left and hesitated when he saw Pacers center Roy Hibbert approaching. Though Nene was open, Wall threw the ball back to no one in particular, which led to a backcourt violation. After that loss, Coach Randy Wittman pulled Wall aside and showed him video of the sequence, explaining that he simply needed calm down and slip the pass to a cutting Nene.

Nene injured his left foot the next night against Philadelphia, missed the next 10 games and returned on Wednesday, so there hadn’t been another opportunity to go back to the play until Saturday in Miami.

Wall made the right call against the Heat, with Joel Anthony and Norris Cole chasing him and Mario Chalmers and Udonis Haslem surrounding Nene. “I wanted to turn the corner and make the play without throwing it away toward their basket or getting a charge,” Wall said after the game. “Nene just cut right behind. He’s just a big man who knows where to be. He knows the spots. He just makes it easier for you.”

When the Wizards fell behind, 70-66, with 9 minutes 55 seconds remaining, Wall took over the game strictly with his passing, as he assisted on his team’s final nine field goals, accounting for 20 points. He started by feeding Nene for layups on consecutive possessions, finding James Singleton for a fastbreak dunk and then Maurice Evans for a three-pointer that put them ahead by five points.

Read the rest of the article. There is more good stuff. Randy is turning Wall into a better PG. And it looks to be more in the mold of a CP3 who does his scoring only when he needs to vs a D Rose who just scores all the time. Now Wall needs to put in the work so he has an outside shot to balance his game.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#302 » by hands11 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:03 pm

If they keep things together and Wall adds that outside shot, they are a playoff team next year. They have hit bottom and are on the way back up. We have seen how much better the first year players got in year two. Those 2nd year player will now be in year 3 and the 1st year player should make noticeable progress in year two. And they are sprinkling in vets. The is pipeline is now filled so they can keep filling it at the bottom while trimming the tree at the top ala McGee and Nick.

This is a even a better design then version 1 was but it is similar in some way. Before they had AJs huge contract, now they have Lewis. The right move is the get ride of that contact. AJ should have never been extended for that amount. They need to keep bringing in the new blood instead of cashing in to try to win with that version 1 roster. Someone needed to turn Gil into a a true PG. EFJ didnt do that and since he didn't, they needed to moved Gil and AJ and keep building. Instead, they cashed in the 5th for a run at it. That ended the growth of version 1.

So here were are with a better version 2. Lets hope they keep it going.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#303 » by rockymac52 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:38 pm

I agree that we have a really young team (obviously) and basic logic leads us to believe that our young players have nowhere to go but up this early in their career. But every other NBA team has young players that have another year under their belt as well, and they're getting better too. It's not just us improving.

Also, I'm getting tired of hearing "if Wall adds an outside shot." Look, we all know he sucks at shooting. We all know it's something he needs to address. It sounds so easy to just focus on shooting long distance this summer, but even if Wall focuses all of his attention to shooting this summer, there's no guarantee he's going to get much better. What do you guys think Wall was focusing on all last summer? Blame the lockout and the lack of summer league and training camp all you want, but Wall had all the time in the world to train and get better. Either he's lazy and stubborn and didn't practice hard at all last year, or he did try hard, but he just didn't get THAT much better (especially at shooting).

I want to drink the kool aid. I really do. And to a certain extent, I do. I see Wall developing a jump shot and blossoming into a legitimate NBA star, and being one of the top, if not THE top, point guards in the NBA. I could theoretically see him making that stride this coming season. But then again I could have seen it happening this current season, but it didn't. I'm not going to blindly assume that "this is the year".

Listen, if Wall DOES develop an outside shot this summer, that's fantastic. If that's the case, he's on the fast track to stardom. And in that scenario, I think he will be so good that he will single-handedly lead this team to the playoffs, regardless of how many scrubs we surround him with. I'm imaging something similar to how Chris Paul lead his Hornets teams to the playoffs year in and year out, despite having next to no talent surrounding him.

So if Wall turns the corner this summer, then yes, this team could very well be playoff bound. But if he doesn't drastically improve, I don't see this team being that much better. I love the moves we've made this year. I like the way our team is shaping up, slowly but surely. But it still has a lot of problems, and I'm not that encouraged by our late season improvement in the win column, or any individual players who are now getting playing time and producing. I'm just not sold. We've seen this before. Remember when Jamison was traded and Blatche began to start at the 4 and he put up amazing stats for the rest of the season? Yeah... Andray **** Blatche. Fool me once...

I think we will be better next season. I really do. I don't expect to be bottom 2 in the NBA again next year. Although bottom 5 wouldn't SHOCK me. But you guys are talking about making the playoffs with this squad even if Wall doesn't develop an outside shot??? (Also assuming we DON'T get Davis -- if we luck out there, then perhaps we sneak into the playoffs next year). Do you all realize that we are currently 16 games out of 8th place? 16!!! Hell, we only have 17 wins all season! You guys think we are going to DOUBLE our wins? Just because we got rid of McGee and Young and our other young players might get a little better? Come on. I've been known to be a homer at times, but you guys are taking this to a whole another level.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#304 » by Nivek » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:54 pm

While I think the Wiz will be better next season even if they did nothing, I think they still need major roster changes. They still need to add starters at SF and SG. They could still use an upgrade at PF or C. Most of us figure Wall's going to get better -- that's a must if he's going to be a top-echelon PG. What they've done lately has been nice, but no one should get carried away with it. They still need an infusion of talent. Which they can get if they draft well. IF.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#305 » by hands11 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:06 pm

What do you guys think Wall was focusing on all last summer?

I think he was doing what we saw him doing. Fast break facials in summer league.
Some here have pointed out his summer strategy as a big flaw. And now Wall is even admitting it himself.

He has been maturing a lot in spurts this year. I see him taking more steps forward and less back moving forward. I think it is all starting to click for him mentally and ego wise. Nene was just what the doctor ordered to help Wall move forward.

I doubt he starts next year like he did this year. i also think these team will stay in touch more over the summer.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#306 » by rockymac52 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:52 pm

hands11 wrote:What do you guys think Wall was focusing on all last summer?

I think he was doing what we saw him doing. Fast break facials in summer league.
Some here have pointed out his summer strategy as a big flaw. And now Wall is even admitting it himself.

He has been maturing a lot in spurts this year. I see him taking more steps forward and less back moving forward. I think it is all starting to click for him mentally and ego wise. Nene was just what the doctor ordered to help Wall move forward.

I doubt he starts next year like he did this year. i also think their guy will stay in touch over the summer.

I don't want to come off as a downer with my earlier post. I too like to be optimistic and think Wall didn't approach last summer like he should have, and I'd like to believe that he's matured a bit and figured out what he has to do to improve his game. Hopefully this is the summer he puts it all together. But I'm just not convinced he'll be hitting jumpers next season.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#307 » by pancakes3 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:19 pm

i think having access to the verizon center will help tremendously. also his "workout partners" mcgee and young are out of the picture and he can get down to some real work like putting in hours in the weight room or with a shot doctor
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#308 » by hands11 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:38 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

EG getting extended. Next up. The announcement that Randy is coming back.

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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#309 » by hands11 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:25 am

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hands11 wrote:What do you guys think Wall was focusing on all last summer?

I think he was doing what we saw him doing. Fast break facials in summer league.
Some here have pointed out his summer strategy as a big flaw. And now Wall is even admitting it himself.

He has been maturing a lot in spurts this year. I see him taking more steps forward and less back moving forward. I think it is all starting to click for him mentally and ego wise. Nene was just what the doctor ordered to help Wall move forward.

I doubt he starts next year like he did this year. i also think their guy will stay in touch over the summer.

I don't want to come off as a downer with my earlier post. I too like to be optimistic and think Wall didn't approach last summer like he should have, and I'd like to believe that he's matured a bit and figured out what he has to do to improve his game. Hopefully this is the summer he puts it all together. But I'm just not convinced he'll be hitting jumpers next season.


If I had to put odds on it, I would say it 70%/30% or maybe even 80/20 that he will be hitting the open shot from the top of the key that he mostly takes. Consider this. Wall doesn't shoot from all over the place. He takes most of them from two locations. He doesn't have that many shots to work on. One move he does off the cross over at the top of the key. The other is a catch and shot. And lets not forget this. He started the year not fishing well around the rim. He fixed that during this season already.

I think he can do it. The shot was falling tonight. Its just a tweak to his mechanics. He mostly has good form. He just can't release on the way down or leaning to much. They can fix that. He has been working all year with Sam before games on this. It will get fixed.
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#310 » by Spence » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:31 am

Yeah, gotta figure EG returning increases the odds of Wittman coming back, too. Not a sure thing, of course, but a lot more likely than if Grunfeld had received the pink slip he deserves.
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Post#311 » by Higga » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:38 am

Keeping EG was bad enough but I can live with it I guess....but no way should Wittman return. He is just not head coaching material in this league.
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Mike D'antoni 

Post#312 » by mikefly3113 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:06 pm

What do you guys think of the possibility D'antoni becoming the wizards head coach? He was able to turn Nash, Felton, and Lin into great PGs. I think him and wall would be insane together.
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Post#313 » by dobrojim » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:19 pm

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Re: Mike D'antoni 

Post#314 » by truwizfan4evr » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:34 pm

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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#315 » by miller31time » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:36 pm

Merged "Dantoni" thread with "Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards" thread.

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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#316 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:50 pm

I've more or less down with/resigned to RWitt returning.

He is not a total frickin' imbecile... Which I guess is more than you can say about any of our coaches post Doug Collins.
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Post#317 » by Jay81 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:31 pm

Witt all the way if it means we dont get D'Antoni
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Re: Who should be the next coach of the Washington Wizards? 

Post#318 » by verbal8 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:02 am

Jay81 wrote:Witt all the way if it means we dont get D'Antoni


I agree.

I figure Wittman would be here on a 1 or 2 year deal. That is a bit of a lame duck situation, but I don't think that is a huge issue with the current roster. Really at this point having a semi-interim coach and GM isn't a bad thing. If the team makes progress as well or better than expected, then you can extend them. If you don't, you can let them go or fire them.

I don't think D'Antoni signs a deal for less than 4 years. That means building a "D'Antoni" roster, which is great if things work out. However if they don't you end up with players that are less useful under other coaches, but likely paid based on production/potential production under D'Antoni.

If we had a 2nd 2-way star to go with Wall at this point, I would be more supportive of bringing in D'Antoni as the coach.
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Post#319 » by hands11 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:50 pm

Coach Randy Wittman gets endorsements from Wizards players

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

I posted about this a few weeks ago. I was wondering how much the players would have to say about who it their next coach. Well, here they are chiming in.

“I like Coach Wittman as a coach. It would be nice to have him back,” John Wall said. “I think we respected him because when he was an assistant coach we respected him then. He’s an aggressive coach and always right there on us, making sure we‘re doing the right thing. When he took over, he was being honest with us. He said, ‘I think you all can be a better team, which you all are.’ He wanted us to play hard, he wanted us play as a team. Once we started doing those things, the season turned around for us and we started winning games.”
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Post#320 » by hands11 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:00 pm

“I really like this coach, because he gives me my opportunity,” Seraphin said. “I like Witt, after Flip go, I had a meeting with him. He was like, ‘Now you will get your opportunity, you will play. So now you have to get it.’ I really like this coach, he give me confidence and everything.”

The Wizards are in no rush to make a decision about Wittman, since he and his staff all signed contracts last summer through the end of the 2012-13 season.


Hmm, I forgot this. They don't have to do anything. Randy is already signed for one more year.

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