First Round Playoff Thread

[Baddy Chuck]

Rose being out would've given us maybe a 5% chance of advancing rather then 0%.

You are stupid stupid man

This is way you always try to make playoffs. You never know what is going to hapen. And after Bulls we would play old Celtics or average Hawks in 2nd round. Stupid tankers

Lol at you calling anyone stupid. Have you got money on Philly winning the series now?

He wrote off winning anything after we lost to the Knicks, who are the 7th seed. But I'm an idiot for saying we can't beat the team who held onto the 1st seed without their best player.

[AussieBuck]

He wrote off winning anything after we lost to the Knicks, who are the 7th seed. But I'm an idiot for saying we can't beat the team who held onto the 1st seed without their best player.

Dunning-Kruger strikes again.

[Baddy Chuck]

And Sigra was a "stupid tanker" at one point this season

[KingCammo]

At what point does Big Baby stop throwing the ball into Hibberts hand? **** moron.

[JayMKE]

And Sigra was a "stupid tanker" at about 10 points this season

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Rose doesn't tear his knee vs the Bucks. The Bulls would of been up a lot more than 12 points against us.

Even if he did, the Rose-less Bulls still would kick our ass in 5 maybe 6 games.

[Ayt]

The Knicks/Heat game was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen in my life, especially in the first half. Van Gundy was beside himself with Lebron's flops and I don't blame him. I wish there was a youtube video compiling all of his flops this afternoon because they were just outrageous and obvious.

It's like the refs had a vendetta against JR Smith and Tyson Chandler, it was sick. I'm not saying they would have won or that it would have been close, but CALL THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY. Give the Heat enough credit, they don't need a lopsided officiated game to win, my god. That was an embarrassment for the NBA.

Go back over the play by play in the 2nd quarter and point out to me all the bad calls. Just in regards to Chandler, the first offensive foul was legit. He jumped into the screen and extended his arms after the initial contact. You can't do that. The call that was initially called a flagrant 2 was also obviously a foul for the same reason.

Seriously. Go back and watch the sequence or look at the play by play. NY scored 2 **** points after the 6:52 mark. If you blame that all on the refs you are a damn moron, especially given all the unforced TO's NY had.

6:03 Baron Davis bad pass (Chris Bosh steals)

5:33 Amare Stoudemire traveling (Good job, Amare).

5:03 Baron Davis offensive charge (LeBron James draws the foul) - Obvious

4:15 Amare Stoudemire offensive charge (Shane Battier draws the foul) - Great play by Battier, obvious charge

3:32 J.R. Smith lost ball (LeBron James steals)

2:34 Tyson Chandler offensive foul (LeBron James draws the foul) - Obvious offensive foul. Chandler jumped into him and extended his forearms after contact. Dumb play. Miami was up 40-29 at this point.

When the flagrant 1 was called on Chandler it was 45-31 MIA. Was it a flagrant? No? Was it an obviously stupid moving screen in the open court. 100% yes.

[Ayt]

I think critiquing whether a guy should have been in the game or not in the game is a non starter. In the NFL, getting a guy off the field when the game is in hand has some merits. Violent hits are common. But in the NBA, these guys are playing basketball all week long, both on the court and in practice. This type of thing could happen at any time. If you get to a point where you are nervous your star might get hurt when he is on the court, I think it will ruin the guys confidence and effectiveness.

In the case of Rose, people have been speculating that he makes too many sharp cuts and has been an injury waiting to happen.

Some guys have naturally well designed muscle structures in the feet and knees and some guys have structures that are less than optimal ala Mike Redd. We will find out with Rose if this was a one off or the start of major problems.

Collins took a TO at the 3 minute mark and went with a lineup of Jrue/Lou/Meeks/Young/Hawes (again, while down 16).

For those scoring at home, that is 2 starters, and one of those starters only plays 25MPG in Meeks. Holliday is the only guy out there that averages real starter minutes (over 30 MPG).

What Thibs did to the reigning MVP is indefensible. Hell, putting Boozer back in at the 3 minute TO is indefensible!

[Jez2983]

FIRE THIBEDOUX!

I got suspended for going to the Bulls board for saying he left his starters in up 30 against the Bucks late into the game and said it would come back to bit them...and it sure has.

Y'all probably have MBBOT on ignore, or don't read, so I'll re-highlight this.

MBBOT, trolling FIBS

[Ayt]

Not only has Thibs ruined this season for the Bulls due to his stubbornness, he's potentially ruined the Bulls in the "Rose" era for playing him in minutes he should have not been playing. When a guy is coming off injury, you sit him at the end of decided games FFS! He should have been looking for any opportunity to sit him at the end of games given his recent injuries. Instead, Thibs rides him and (potentially) **** destroys the franchise.

He's a great coach, but he could have easily just set that franchise back at least a decade by playing Rose in minutes he 100% shouldn't have been playing anyway. What an idiot in that regard.

[jeremyd236]

The Knicks/Heat game was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen in my life, especially in the first half. Van Gundy was beside himself with Lebron's flops and I don't blame him. I wish there was a youtube video compiling all of his flops this afternoon because they were just outrageous and obvious.

It's like the refs had a vendetta against JR Smith and Tyson Chandler, it was sick. I'm not saying they would have won or that it would have been close, but CALL THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY. Give the Heat enough credit, they don't need a lopsided officiated game to win, my god. That was an embarrassment for the NBA.

Go back over the play by play in the 2nd quarter and point out to me all the bad calls. Just in regards to Chandler, the first offensive foul was legit. He jumped into the screen and extended his arms after the initial contact. You can't do that. The call that was initially called a flagrant 2 was also obviously a foul for the same reason.

Seriously. Go back and watch the sequence or look at the play by play. NY scored 2 **** points after the 6:52 mark. If you blame that all on the refs you are a damn moron, especially given all the unforced TO's NY had.

6:03 Baron Davis bad pass (Chris Bosh steals)

5:33 Amare Stoudemire traveling (Good job, Amare).

5:03 Baron Davis offensive charge (LeBron James draws the foul) - Obvious

4:15 Amare Stoudemire offensive charge (Shane Battier draws the foul) - Great play by Battier, obvious charge

3:32 J.R. Smith lost ball (LeBron James steals)

2:34 Tyson Chandler offensive foul (LeBron James draws the foul) - Obvious offensive foul. Chandler jumped into him and extended his forearms after contact. Dumb play. Miami was up 40-29 at this point.

When the flagrant 1 was called on Chandler it was 45-31 MIA. Was it a flagrant? No? Was it an obviously stupid moving screen in the open court. 100% yes.

WTF is your point? It wasn't a flagrant? They CALLED it a flagrant not just a regular foul. In the playoffs. NOBODY who watched that play thought it deserved a flagrant. I guess you better tell Stan and Mike, everyone I watched the game with, and everyone on general bball boards all over the internet that the first half was officiated well.

I'm talking about Carmelo posting up on Lebron and he barely touches him and Lebron goes flying. I'm talking about JR Smith raising his arm and Lebron goes FLYING again.

Are you serious with the bolded comment? I speficially said I do NOT think NY would have won or that it would have been a close game. Learn to read and get a **** clue before you quote a post and act like an idiot.

[Ayt]

I can read and I think it has been established that I have a clue.

I'd be happy to argue with people who don't think I have a clue about anything basketball related (all while doing the Dr. Zoidberg dance).

As for the argument that the foul on LeBron was called a flagrant 1, so what? They were already down 14 at that point. Even if it is only called an offensive foul (which it obviously was), it doesn't matter all that much.

I was going to break all this down, but it is a huge waste of time. Note all the turnovers by NY. Note the shots made by each team. At most, the refs had an effect on about 6 points during this stretch, and that is debatable.

6:31 Amare Stoudemire shooting foul (Chris Bosh draws the foul) 29-30
6:31 29-31 Chris Bosh makes free throw 1 of 2
6:31 29-32 Chris Bosh makes free throw 2 of 2
6:13 29-32 Mario Chalmers personal foul (J.R. Smith draws the foul)
6:03 Baron Davis bad pass (Chris Bosh steals) 29-32
5:47 Carmelo Anthony shooting foul (LeBron James draws the foul) 29-32
5:47 29-32 Official timeout
5:47 29-32 Mike Miller enters the game for Dwyane Wade
5:47 29-32 LeBron James misses free throw 1 of 2
5:47 29-32 Miami offensive team rebound
5:47 29-32 LeBron James misses free throw 2 of 2
5:46 Amare Stoudemire defensive rebound 29-32
5:33 Amare Stoudemire traveling 29-32
5:33 Iman Shumpert enters the game for Steve Novak 29-32
5:13 29-32 Chris Bosh misses jumper
5:11 Amare Stoudemire defensive rebound 29-32
5:03 Baron Davis offensive charge (LeBron James draws the foul) 29-32
5:03 Baron Davis turnover 29-32
4:54 Baron Davis personal foul (Mario Chalmers draws the foul) 29-32
4:54 29-33 Mario Chalmers makes free throw 1 of 2
4:54 Steve Novak enters the game for Baron Davis 29-33
4:54 29-34 Mario Chalmers makes free throw 2 of 2
4:41 J.R. Smith misses 24-foot three point jumper 29-34
4:39 29-34 Mike Miller defensive rebound
4:28 29-34 Mike Miller misses 25-foot three point jumper
4:28 29-34 Mike Miller offensive rebound
4:22 Iman Shumpert personal foul (Chris Bosh draws the foul) 29-34
4:22 29-35 Chris Bosh makes free throw 1 of 2
4:22 29-35 Chris Bosh misses free throw 2 of 2
4:22 J.R. Smith defensive rebound 29-35
4:15 Amare Stoudemire offensive charge (Shane Battier draws the foul) 29-35
4:15 Amare Stoudemire turnover 29-35
4:05 29-38 Shane Battier makes 23-foot three point jumper (Mario Chalmers assists)
3:57 New York full timeout
3:57 Tyson Chandler enters the game for Amare Stoudemire 29-38
3:32 J.R. Smith lost ball (LeBron James steals) 29-38
3:24 29-38 Chris Bosh misses driving layup
3:23 Tyson Chandler defensive rebound 29-38
3:20 Tyson Chandler bad pass (LeBron James steals) 29-38
3:20 J.R. Smith personal foul (LeBron James draws the foul) 29-38
3:20 29-39 LeBron James makes free throw 1 of 2
3:20 29-39 Dwyane Wade enters the game for Mario Chalmers
3:20 29-40 LeBron James makes free throw 2 of 2
3:11 29-40 LeBron James personal foul (Iman Shumpert draws the foul)
3:01 J.R. Smith misses 25-foot three point jumper 29-40
3:00 29-40 Shane Battier defensive rebound
2:47 29-40 Chris Bosh offensive foul (Tyson Chandler draws the foul)
2:47 29-40 Chris Bosh turnover
2:34 Tyson Chandler offensive foul (LeBron James draws the foul) 29-40
2:34 Tyson Chandler turnover 29-40
2:21 29-43 Mike Miller makes 25-foot three point jumper (Dwyane Wade assists)
2:06 Carmelo Anthony makes 18-foot jumper 31-43
1:46 31-43 Shane Battier misses 9-foot two point shot
1:44 31-43 Chris Bosh offensive rebound
1:39 31-43 Dwyane Wade misses 8-foot jumper
1:38 31-43 Shane Battier offensive rebound
1:36 Steve Novak shooting foul (Shane Battier draws the foul) 31-43
1:36 31-44 Shane Battier makes free throw 1 of 2
1:36 Landry Fields enters the game for Steve Novak 31-44
1:36 31-45 Shane Battier makes free throw 2 of 2
1:34 Tyson Chandler flagrant foul type 1 (LeBron James draws the foul) 31-45
1:34 Tyson Chandler turnover 31-45
1:34 Jared Jeffries enters the game for Tyson Chandler 31-45
1:34 31-45 Joel Anthony enters the game for Chris Bosh
1:34 31-46 LeBron James makes flagrant free throw 1 of 2
1:34 31-47 LeBron James makes flagrant free throw 2 of 2
1:25 31-49 LeBron James makes 19-foot jumper
1:25 J.R. Smith shooting foul (LeBron James draws the foul) 31-49
1:25 31-50 LeBron James makes free throw 1 of 1
1:00 shot clock turnover 31-50
0:48 31-52 LeBron James makes 21-foot two point shot
0:38 Carmelo Anthony misses 25-foot three point jumper 31-52
0:37 J.R. Smith offensive rebound 31-52
0:32 Iman Shumpert misses 26-foot three point jumper 31-52
0:31 J.R. Smith offensive rebound 31-52
0:25 Carmelo Anthony bad pass (LeBron James steals) 31-52
0:03 31-54 LeBron James makes driving layup
0:03 Jared Jeffries shooting foul (LeBron James draws the foul) 31-54
0:03 31-54 LeBron James misses free throw 1 of 1
0:02 Jared Jeffries defensive rebound 31-54
0:01 J.R. Smith misses 62-foot three point jumper 31-54
0:00 New York offensive team rebound 31-54

[jeremyd236]

For what its worth, Derrick Rose will never be the same. He got injured at the worst possible time of the season in terms of recovery, and so much of his game is reliant on explosiveness that I don't see him having when he comes back. It's a shame because this Bulls team was poised to compete this year and for years to come.

[midranger]

Ayt. I'm worried bout you man. Let it go.

Sucks for Rose and the Bulls/their fans. But what's done is done.

[chuckleslove]

Pacers trying to do their best Bucks impression closing this game out.

[jeremyd236]

If Orlando wins this game, does the favorite to win the series change? I think so.

[midranger]

Prepping for the upcoming J Richardson trade this summer.

[JayMKE]

lol choke

Pacers were Bucks-esqe

[midranger]

Need a .gif of Duhon doing the traveling dance in the bacground.

[Jez2983]

For what its worth, Derrick Rose will never be the same. He got injured at the worst possible time of the season in terms of recovery, and so much of his game is reliant on explosiveness that I don't see him having when he comes back. It's a shame because this Bulls team was poised to compete this year and for years to come.

I agree 100%. But, like I said with Howard, we'll see how 'great' these guys are when we watch how they change their games? Will Rose really work hard on a jumper now?

Sorry for him. Poor bugger. His agility will be shot now...

[Ayt]

The Knicks/Heat game was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen in my life, especially in the first half. Van Gundy was beside himself with Lebron's flops and I don't blame him. I wish there was a youtube video compiling all of his flops this afternoon because they were just outrageous and obvious.

It's like the refs had a vendetta against JR Smith and Tyson Chandler, it was sick. I'm not saying they would have won or that it would have been close, but CALL THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY. Give the Heat enough credit, they don't need a lopsided officiated game to win, my god. That was an embarrassment for the NBA.

Go back over the play by play in the 2nd quarter and point out to me all the bad calls. Just in regards to Chandler, the first offensive foul was legit. He jumped into the screen and extended his arms after the initial contact. You can't do that. The call that was initially called a flagrant 2 was also obviously a foul for the same reason.

Seriously. Go back and watch the sequence or look at the play by play. NY scored 2 **** points after the 6:52 mark. If you blame that all on the refs you are a damn moron, especially given all the unforced TO's NY had.

6:03 Baron Davis bad pass (Chris Bosh steals)

5:33 Amare Stoudemire traveling (Good job, Amare).

5:03 Baron Davis offensive charge (LeBron James draws the foul) - Obvious

4:15 Amare Stoudemire offensive charge (Shane Battier draws the foul) - Great play by Battier, obvious charge

3:32 J.R. Smith lost ball (LeBron James steals)

2:34 Tyson Chandler offensive foul (LeBron James draws the foul) - Obvious offensive foul. Chandler jumped into him and extended his forearms after contact. Dumb play. Miami was up 40-29 at this point.

When the flagrant 1 was called on Chandler it was 45-31 MIA. Was it a flagrant? No? Was it an obviously stupid moving screen in the open court. 100% yes.

WTF is your point? It wasn't a flagrant? They CALLED it a flagrant not just a regular foul. In the playoffs. NOBODY who watched that play thought it deserved a flagrant. I guess you better tell Stan and Mike, everyone I watched the game with, and everyone on general bball boards all over the internet that the first half was officiated well.

I'm talking about Carmelo posting up on Lebron and he barely touches him and Lebron goes flying. I'm talking about JR Smith raising his arm and Lebron goes FLYING again.

Are you serious with the bolded comment? I speficially said I do NOT think NY would have won or that it would have been a close game. Learn to read and get a **** clue before you quote a post and act like an idiot.

It was a flagrant 1. Big whoop. Man up and get the **** over it. Bad calls like that happen all the time in the playoffs. It is 2 FTs and the ball. It isn't game over, FFS. Frankly, it was a hard foul (right after a hard screen on the previous possession) and a great sell job by LeBron. Chandler was an idiot to set an illegal screen like that right after he had just been called for an (obvious) illegal screen on the previous possession.

As for Melo, he was completely outclassed by LeBron. Melo looked like a JV HS kid during meat night against the varsity. Spin it however you want, but he looked like he was completely out of his depth from the 1st minute of the game (even before people could start blaming the refs).