SAS: Riley will move 1 if not 2 of big three if Heat lose

[IGotTheFunk]

You're right, I welcome any new Heat fan, but what I meant is that Wade was to us what Rose is to Bulls fans, except he actually won us a championship. Can you imagine the Bulls ever trading Rose? (Assuming that this ACL thing doesn't linger forever)

[GreenHat]

You're right, I welcome any new Heat fan, but what I meant is that Wade was to us what Rose is to Bulls fans, except he actually won us a championship. Can you imagine the Bulls ever trading Rose? (Assuming that this ACL thing doesn't linger forever)

Well we traded Zo who was just as much of a "no way he gets traded guy"

Obviously **** happened but **** can happen at any time

Kareem got traded, Shaq got traded, Hakeem got traded (all after winning championships). It's possible.

As for your example yes I could see the Bulls trading Rose IF they got a better trade for him. Let's say they could somehow get Lebron and Wade for Rose and Boozer. They would be stupid not to.

If we don't win again this year (the premise of this thread) and we got a trade offer that made us significantly better I would trade Wade (again keyword being significantly)

I'm more of a Heat fan than a Wade fan.

Isn't that kind of what you are complaining about? (people being Lebron fans instead of Heat fans)

I'm definitely not one of those "we're better without Wade" people but I would trade him if it made our team a lot better (again if we lose again which is the premise of this thread)

[Tony Fiorentino]

It is a business (which is ultimately why Zo was traded).
But that was then, the fact is that right now this team needs Wade more than ever. Until LeBron can effectively lead/captain this team then Wade isn't going anywhere. He's made himself indispensable in this way.

[GreenHat]

It is a business (which is ultimately why Zo was traded).
But that was then, the fact is that right now this team needs Wade more than ever. Until LeBron can effectively lead/captain this team then Wade isn't going anywhere. He's made himself indispensable in this way.

I agree that we need Wade right now. But its for his on court play not for his leadership, captaining ability or any other intangible.

His asset to the team is his ability to play basketball.

[Tony Fiorentino]

Yeah that's something we can all agree on, without Wade this team becomes the Cavs with Bosh being an "uber-Antawn Jamison" if you would.

I just realized this thread was started over a comment on First Take.

That show is basically a "who can make the wildest inference/claim" marathon. Skip and SAS are a sideshow act that informed sports fans know not to take seriously.

While I'm ranting about that show, here's another gripe I have;
Just because Wale sits around all day getting high and watching espn, does not make him an analyst! FOH.

[GreenHat]

Yeah that's something we can all agree on, without Wade this team becomes the Cavs with Bosh being an "uber-Antawn Jamison" if you would.

I just realized this thread was started over a comment on First Take.

That show is basically a "who can make the wildest inference/claim" marathon. Skip and SAS are a sideshow act that informed sports fans know not to take seriously.

While I'm ranting about that show, here's another gripe I have;
Just because Wale sits around all day getting high and watching espn, does not make him an analyst! FOH.

Yeah I feel I am in the middle of the "trade wade because we're better without him anyway" and the "Wade is Miami don't trade him for Durant/Harden" crowds.

Like I said it would have to be IF we didn't win it all this year and IF the trade made us a LOT better.

That's a very specific set of circumstances that are unlikely to all line up.

And yeah first take is trash. Its like a tabloid

[arsenic]

I think what Igotthefunk was trying to say that anyone even suggesting shipping Wade isn't a true Heat fan. Simply because he's so beloved in and out of the arena.

He's right, but when you became a fan has nothing to do with it. There's people that used to Cavs fans that came over along with LeBron, who know more about basketball than MANY of our posters on here. It's the casual viewers who watch the game because everyone else is watching who decide to step up and make comments such as "trade Wade, trade Haslem, Spo's gotta go, Riley should be coaching, etc."

Sometimes its to stir waters. Other times it's just because they're being foolish.

Either way we know all the die-hards are the ones chanting "MVP" when Joels at the line.

Yeah...no. That's actually pretty embarrassing.

[IGotTheFunk]

You're right, I welcome any new Heat fan, but what I meant is that Wade was to us what Rose is to Bulls fans, except he actually won us a championship. Can you imagine the Bulls ever trading Rose? (Assuming that this ACL thing doesn't linger forever)

Well we traded Zo who was just as much of a "no way he gets traded guy"

Obviously **** happened but **** can happen at any time

Kareem got traded, Shaq got traded, Hakeem got traded (all after winning championships). It's possible.

As for your example yes I could see the Bulls trading Rose IF they got a better trade for him. Let's say they could somehow get Lebron and Wade for Rose and Boozer. They would be stupid not to.

If we don't win again this year (the premise of this thread) and we got a trade offer that made us significantly better I would trade Wade (again keyword being significantly)

I'm more of a Heat fan than a Wade fan.

Isn't that kind of what you are complaining about? (people being Lebron fans instead of Heat fans)

I'm definitely not one of those "we're better without Wade" people but I would trade him if it made our team a lot better (again if we lose again which is the premise of this thread)

I actually couldn't care less if people just like LeBron, and because of that, root for the Heat. There's a lot of haters, so the more on our side, the merrier.

I just think that once it gets to the point that people are advocating to trade Wade, it shows crazy disrespect to the most important player in Miami Heat history. He won us our only championship, and because of him we have Lebron f*cking James on our team.

Zo was never traded, he signed with the Nets, and as much as other fans want to believe that the Heat organization is run by Darth Vader and Nickelback, this is a really well run franchise that prides itself in taking care of its own guys. I really could never see Riley turning his back on Wade like that, and what I was trying to convey is that if you've followed this franchise for a while, you would realize how ridiculous that idea is.

Now, if we were to blow it this year, I could see Bosh being at least shopped around...

[Voice_of_Reason]

If they trade Wade I would hate this team for a while. He has been a huge part of this team for many years, and brought us our first championship. I can stomach him leaving in FA, but if we volunteer to get rid of him I would be disgusted.

I don't think it going to happen. Haslem/Wade will be heaters 4 lyf

[GreenHat]

You're right, I welcome any new Heat fan, but what I meant is that Wade was to us what Rose is to Bulls fans, except he actually won us a championship. Can you imagine the Bulls ever trading Rose? (Assuming that this ACL thing doesn't linger forever)

Well we traded Zo who was just as much of a "no way he gets traded guy"

Obviously **** happened but **** can happen at any time

Kareem got traded, Shaq got traded, Hakeem got traded (all after winning championships). It's possible.

As for your example yes I could see the Bulls trading Rose IF they got a better trade for him. Let's say they could somehow get Lebron and Wade for Rose and Boozer. They would be stupid not to.

If we don't win again this year (the premise of this thread) and we got a trade offer that made us significantly better I would trade Wade (again keyword being significantly)

I'm more of a Heat fan than a Wade fan.

Isn't that kind of what you are complaining about? (people being Lebron fans instead of Heat fans)

I'm definitely not one of those "we're better without Wade" people but I would trade him if it made our team a lot better (again if we lose again which is the premise of this thread)

I actually couldn't care less if people just like LeBron, and because of that, root for the Heat. There's a lot of haters, so the more on our side, the merrier.

I just think that once it gets to the point that people are advocating to trade Wade, it shows crazy disrespect to the most important player in Miami Heat history. He won us our only championship, and because of him we have Lebron f*cking James on our team.

Zo was never traded, he signed with the Nets, and as much as other fans want to believe that the Heat organization is run by Darth Vader and Nickelback, this is a really well run franchise that prides itself in taking care of its own guys. I really could never see Riley turning his back on Wade like that, and what I was trying to convey is that if you've followed this franchise for a while, you would realize how ridiculous that idea is.

Now, if we were to blow it this year, I could see Bosh being at least shopped around...

As I said you complain about Lebron fans not being true Heat fans because they put one player above the organization but you are doing the same thing just with Wade.

Wade is the most important player but to me the team is more important than any player. Again maybe its because I was a Heat fan before Wade started playing AAU so I have a much stronger attachment to the team rather than just Wade. I don't think its disrespectful to trade a guy for an overwhelming package if as the premise of this trade happens and we don't win again.

You're right about Zo, I didn't follow transactions as closely back then. The point is we still made a decision not to try too hard to keep him. This franchise does take care of its own but also supports its own self interests. We made Haslem take less so that we could give more money to Miller. We're loyal but mainly when it benefits the team.

I can't see Riley trading Wade unless all of the conditions I stated in my previous thread are met. So yeah very unlikely.

What I was trying to convey to you is because I've followed the team so long Wade isn't more important than the Heat to me since I was a fan well before he came around and I'll be around way after he leaves.

If we blow it this year (like the thread presumes) and we get offered a godfather offer for Wade (likely won't happen) I don't think it would be ridiculous to do.

Obviously the Thunder wouldn't do this but if somehow Riley got Presti drunk and was offered Durant/Harden/Ibaka for Wade/Miller/Haslem/Filler you wouldn't do that? I would in a second, the team is more important than any one player.

Again never going to happen but there might be some trade out there that is ridiculously lopsided in our favor. I wouldn't say no just because it has Wade in it, especially if we lose this year.

[IGotTheFunk]

Agree to disagree.

[GreenHat]

Agree to disagree.

Agreed, no problem man

[Run DLC]

I don't think Riley would trade LeBron. Wade hasn't played like a superstar this season, and he constantly gets injured.