Anyone wanting Woodson renewed, speak up now.

[Ignitowsky]

And during the regular season, the Knicks had a good run going under Woodson. It wasn't as good as it needed to be, but it was good. Well, during this time, you had a number of posts calling for Woodson to get a contract extension.

Anyone out there want to go on record now, particularly if you did before, and saying want Woodson renewed?

What's this about "not as good as it needed to be"? He had a .750 record, was he supposed to go 24-0? Yes, there was that loss to Cleveland, but I could point to the losses to GS, Sac, Cleveland Toronto and f*cking CHARLOTTE, all under MDA, all costing us the 6th seed.

Yes, I want him back. I also want Lin and Shump back healthy.

[OrangeandBlue20]

Knicks don't make the playoffs without Mike Woodson the way D'Antoni ran this team after the first 23 games, then found Lin and a spark, then finished 18-24 before he was gone and most people then never would've thought they'd do 36-30. Woodson has the team's best player respect and the defense/hustle are better under him than the previous coach. If Jackson wants to come that's one thing. He probably doesn't at this point of his life, so Woodson is the man as there are no other options. Calipari? Please no! Woodson's calmness is also important in this market when dealing with the annoying media.

[BeagleBoss]

If we get swept, Woody shouldn't be brought back. Give Phil $100M if you have to and let him rebuild the team.

[seren]

I don't want anyone renewed before making sure Phil Jackson is not coming.

[Nutsacjac]

Can't win the Kentucky Derby without the horses. No one you bring in here to coach is beating the Heat with this roster.

Bringing in a new guy is shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

[Jheri Curl]

He's showing the same issues that plagued him in Atlanta, no offensive variety. However, he still has a chance to redeem himself. He managed to figure out adjustments for Melo....now he has to make adjustments for the rest of the team. It shouldn't have taken this long though.

If Woodson gets the boot, the last person I want is Phil. The man retired due to health reasons. Let's not bring back someone who at one point was considering only coaching home games. Bring in someone with experience and something to prove. Too often do we recycle coaches in the big leagues and refuse to give others a chance. Let Phil go.

[GONYK]

He's showing the same issues that plagued him in Atlanta, no offensive variety. However, he still has a chance to redeem himself. He managed to figure out adjustments for Melo....now he has to make adjustments for the rest of the team. It shouldn't have taken this long though.

If Woodson gets the boot, the last person I want is Phil. The man retired due to health reasons. Let's not bring back someone who at one point was considering only coaching home games. Bring in someone with experience and something to prove. Too often do we recycle coaches in the big leagues and refuse to give others a chance. Let Phil go.

Especially since he's a system coach, and we don't have the pieces for his system.

[Jeff Van Gully]

BRING D'ANTONI BACK!!!!!


now that I have your attention, D'A gets swept in the playoff with key players down, Woodson (might) get swept in the playoff with key players down. I dont care if you have part of the season or full season. The Knicks were apparently doing just fine UNTIL the playoffs so you cant say that the Knicks are not fully aware of the coach's way and vice versa. We need a coach who plays team ball (yes Carmelo would be pissed again) but we need to pass the ball around and try to get the best of everyone. Amare looked like a different player when the ball moved...now he's playing like the scrub with all the attention on Anthony. Heck Anthony has done everything you could possibly ask for...but rest of the team is just standing there.

My fix?
Get Steve Nash as a point guard. Then whoever is the coach..will be okay.

dude, we were 18-24 when d'antoni resigned. we were 18-6 during woodsanity. stop the madness. we were not fine. we weren't even going to MAKE the playoffs the way things were going.

[Jeff Van Gully]

And during the regular season, the Knicks had a good run going under Woodson. It wasn't as good as it needed to be, but it was good. Well, during this time, you had a number of posts calling for Woodson to get a contract extension.

Anyone out there want to go on record now, particularly if you did before, and saying want Woodson renewed?

What's this about "not as good as it needed to be"? He had a .750 record, was he supposed to go 24-0? Yes, there was that loss to Cleveland, but I could point to the losses to GS, Sac, Cleveland Toronto and f*cking CHARLOTTE, all under MDA, all costing us the 6th seed.

Yes, I want him back. I also want Lin and Shump back healthy.
A

say word.

but much how d'antoni needed an defensive coordinator, woody needs an offensive one.

[Kenyon009]

The problem with the Knicks is that they have always had some form of dead weight on the roster. As of now that force is Amare and he makes a lot of dumb decisions on and off the court. He has failed to provide good defense for his whole career and is a one trick pony. He doesn't rebound or much less box out and he should be traded asap. He has too many holes in his game to provide any reasonable means of support to a championship roster unless you are shored up on talent. All in all, get this guy off the team or court and you'll see better minutes out of other guys and there will be less of a liability.

[OrangeandBlue20]

There may have been a chance the Knicks would've been swept even if we were healthy. it's not Woodson's fault we have had bad luck come at the worst possible time. If the Knicks had played like they did under Woodson for 24 games all season, they would've won the divsion and opened up at home. It's D'Antoni's fault he gave Woodson the Heat as a first-round opponent.

Sure, call Phil Jackson. If he says yes, he's in. If he says no,Woodson should be and will be our guy.

[seren]

He's showing the same issues that plagued him in Atlanta, no offensive variety. However, he still has a chance to redeem himself. He managed to figure out adjustments for Melo....now he has to make adjustments for the rest of the team. It shouldn't have taken this long though.

If Woodson gets the boot, the last person I want is Phil. The man retired due to health reasons. Let's not bring back someone who at one point was considering only coaching home games. Bring in someone with experience and something to prove. Too often do we recycle coaches in the big leagues and refuse to give others a chance. Let Phil go.

Especially since he's a system coach, and we don't have the pieces for his system.

Yes. Phil has a system that requires players to actually care. We don't have that, so it won't work.

[poeman]

yeah i want him back...only want him gone if Phil says I can fix this ****

[nykballa2k4]

I want Shaw/Phil Jackson. Triangle offense would be great for this team

No, it wouldn't. We have no big man with a post game, and no passers out of the post. The Triangle absolutely requires good passers out of the low and high post.

Well you are wrong twice there. Before Melo got here, this knucklehead Amare was an MVP candidate who actually had some semblance of a post game. He also was a VERY good passer. Add on to that that Carmelo is a good passer, albeit not always a willing one (a case of the Kobe's). Our team, even with Lin, is not strong at the position of point guard. We have guys much more suited to the triangle "give the ball to Kobe, and get out of the way" style of play. Toney Douglas would actually be relevant again. This sort of offense would also allow guys like Novak, Harrelson and Jordan to be more useful as spacers.

Right now it is clear our offense is stagnant. We routinely were up against the shot clock trying to get opportunities. Iso-ball and clear outs are not ideal. There about 3 other problems with out offense, but I will stay on this point. Triangle would maximize Melo's abilities on offense and ideally force him to use his teammates.

[Jeff Van Gully]

He has zero offensive imagination, and his postseason record (particularly on the road) is a huge black cloud. It really depends on how these home games go.

black cloud? he got farther every year. when did he really have a championship-caliber team? second round was probably as far as that unit could go.

but yeah, he improved on an annual basis. can't ask for more, can you?

[QueenzAllDay]

I honestly don't know what I want.

I like what Woodson has done for the team but I'm concerned about what we are seeing so far in the playoffs.

Also a big part of me wants Phil Jackson here...

[GONYK]

Well you are wrong twice there. Before Melo got here, this knucklehead Amare was an MVP candidate who actually had some semblance of a post game. He also was a VERY good passer. Add on to that that Carmelo is a good passer, albeit not always a willing one (a case of the Kobe's). Our team, even with Lin, is not strong at the position of point guard. We have guys much more suited to the triangle "give the ball to Kobe, and get out of the way" style of play. Toney Douglas would actually be relevant again. This sort of offense would also allow guys like Novak, Harrelson and Jordan to be more useful as spacers.

Amare was never a VERY good passer. Occasionally hitting Fields on a back cut does not mean that he has the court awareness to run the triangle from the high post. He just doesn't. And Tyson doesn't have the post game or the passing game to run it from the low post. You are missing 2/3 of the Triangle right there.

Toney Douglas would not necessarily be relevant again either, since he has no court awareness, and isn't a good passer from anywhere on the floor, except maybe the wing. Plus his shot is inconsistent.

Right now it is clear our offense is stagnant. We routinely were up against the shot clock trying to get opportunities. Iso-ball and clear outs are not ideal. There about 3 other problems with out offense, but I will stay on this point. Triangle would maximize Melo's abilities on offense and ideally force him to use his teammates.

Melo has no problem using his teammates. The problem is his teammates aren't that good offensively, and our coach lacks offensive imagination.

The Triangle isn't a plug-n-play offense. It requires very specific types of skillsets because it adheres to specific principles. Our players don't have those skillsets.

On top of that, it's not a system that brings quick success. It takes a few years to implement. With Jackson's declining health, age, and seeming lack of fire that he showed last year, I just don't see this being the best option.

[seren]

Melo has no problem using his teammates. The problem is his teammates aren't that good offensively.

The Triangle isn't a plug-n-play offense. It requires very specific types of skillsets because it adheres to specific principles. Our players don't have those skillsets.

On top of that, it's not a system that brings quick success. It takes a few years to implement. With Jackson's declining health, age, and seeming lack of fire that he showed last year, I just don't see this being the best option.

Can't believe this is the same guy supporting MD's offense to the end.

I agree triangle requires specific skillsets. Problem is organized basketball requires specific skillsets. Some of our players don't have those.

[GONYK]

Melo has no problem using his teammates. The problem is his teammates aren't that good offensively.

The Triangle isn't a plug-n-play offense. It requires very specific types of skillsets because it adheres to specific principles. Our players don't have those skillsets.

On top of that, it's not a system that brings quick success. It takes a few years to implement. With Jackson's declining health, age, and seeming lack of fire that he showed last year, I just don't see this being the best option.

Can't believe this is the same guy supporting MD's offense to the end.

I agree triangle requires specific skillsets. Problem is organized basketball requires specific skillsets. Some of our players don't have those.

What does MD have to do with anything?

Our players have skills, just not ones suited for the triangle. Face it, Woody might not be the most creative guy on offense, but we have a serious lack of playmakers.

[dreamer3kx]

Woodson has done a great job here, Mia is just better in every way, we wouldve been a higher seed if this dude was our coach the whole season.