The Kemba Walker Thread

KembaWalker · Post #1081 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue May 1, 2012 5:28 pm

you can think 7 would be impressive for Kemba, but you'd be wrong. but ive already proven you wrong about 15 times in this thread so I'll just bump it up next season. no reason to rehash this same conversation. feel free to get the last word in, I'm sure you won't hesitate

captaincrunk · Post #1082 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue May 1, 2012 5:30 pm

KembaWalker wrote:More likely too hopeful in getting a coach here that knows what he's doing to improve our offensive system/defense to get more fast breaks (easier points), an improved roster,

That's right, qualify your statement in such a way that it will be untestable.

Kembastockton · Post #1083 » by **Kembastockton** » Tue May 1, 2012 5:41 pm

i am not K2H

Sorry

I don't think I'm too hopeful in Kemba, unless expecting a rookie to improve his game in the offseason is too hopeful. idk. like i said, 7 is already pretty much a given if he gets the minutes, unless you think the entire last 2 months of the season were a fluke I guess. theres also the possibility he gets worse in the offseason but I have no reason to assume that would happen

7 would be an improvement he only averaged 4 for the season. The last two months of the season were just that. 2 months. He had a strong 2 months. That is great. It doesn' mean that he has all of a sudden turned into Chris Paul. If you take Chris's best two months of the season he may have average 12. That doesn't mean that next year he is going to average 16 assists per game. Players have good games and bad games. Take them all, put them together, and you can get their averages. Didn't you cover this in sixth grade? :wink:

More likely too hopeful in getting a coach here that knows what he's doing to improve our offensive system/defense to get more fast breaks (easier points), an improved

All coaches know what they are doing. It is really silly how some of you fans like to blame the coach for not being able to win with a team with little or no true nba level talent. Then you try to make a god out of a coach like Phil who refuses to coach a team that doesn't have three allstar level talents on it.

KembaWalker · Post #1084 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue May 1, 2012 5:45 pm

lol at someone calling me out about 6th grade education when you cant understand the PER 36 metric. i know I said I was done but the ignorance combined with personal potshots just annoys me beyond belief. if i wasnt such a nice person id blatantly call you an idiot right now but i assume you understand inference..from 6th grade right?

Kembastockton · Post #1085 » by **Kembastockton** » Tue May 1, 2012 6:10 pm

KembaWalker wrote:lol at someone calling me out about 6th grade education when you cant understand the PER 36 metric. i know I said I was done but the ignorance combined with personal potshots just annoys me beyond belief. if i wasnt such a nice person id blatantly call you an idiot right now but i assume you understand inference..from 6th grade right?

Believe me if I wanted to take pot shots at you I would have said much worse than that. That my friend was just a little good natured ribbing. Obviously you don't understand the 36 per metrics if you take them literally. They are just a guage. It is a guaruntee of nothing. Kemba is not going to average 9 assists next year. That is just ridiculous. Because I am a nice guy I didn't say that the first time.

KembaWalker · Post #1086 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue May 1, 2012 7:26 pm

i guess the smiley face after my prediction went over everyones head. thats my unrealistic homer prediction. 7 is the "he wont improve but he gets starter minutes" 8 is with solid improvement this offseason

its one thing to say his shooting sucked which nobody will disagree. but to say he has no passing ability is 100% dead wrong ignorance. people equating him to Toney Douglas or current Jason Terry need to study up on their basketball

Post #1087 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 1, 2012 7:39 pm

enough with the underhanded comments fellas. its been going on in this thread for months.

@ dj quick, putting a winky face next to your insult doesnt make it any less of an insult.

Post #1088 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 1, 2012 7:46 pm

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=751366

i think everyone posting in this thread needs to take a few moments to read or re-read the forum rules.

TheKingofSting · Post #1089 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:19 pm

SWedd523 wrote:... Who is nowhere near as good as Rondo.

I never said he was, I meant if we are playing the what if game...

TheKingofSting · Post #1090 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:21 pm

fatlever wrote:http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=751366

i think everyone posting in this thread needs to take a few moments to read or re-read the forum rules.

I am reading them but just curious since this is the big issue now, what caused the rile up back then fats? It was before my time here.

Post #1091 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:39 pm

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
fatlever wrote:http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=751366

i think everyone posting in this thread needs to take a few moments to read or re-read the forum rules.

I am reading them but just curious since this is the big issue now, what caused the rile up back then fats? It was before my time here.

that the year of sam vincent. my guess is we were fighting about mcinnis starting at pg, forcing felton to start at sg. that would have been a major hot button topic. the felton lovers wanted him at pg not sg and blamed his struggles on being out of position, the felton haters used mcinnis starting as fuel that felton sucked and couldnt even beat out a crappy vet for pg, while the mcinnis and vincent haters wanted to kill vincent for starting the worst player in the league and giving him big minutes, and of course, the herrmann lovers (me) were still pissed vincent traded him for nazr.

that year was a disaster, other than crash having some monster games.

Post #1092 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:45 pm

imagine if our next coach is an inexperienced idiot who decided to not only sign cory higgins for next season, traded henderson for a backup center and then started higgins at pg while moving kemba to sg. THAT was 2008. you can imagine the outrage and fighting.

Post #1093 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Tue May 1, 2012 10:48 pm

It was glorious.

Battery · Post #1094 » by **Battery** » Tue May 1, 2012 11:06 pm

fatlever wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:
fatlever wrote:http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=751366

i think everyone posting in this thread needs to take a few moments to read or re-read the forum rules.

I am reading them but just curious since this is the big issue now, what caused the rile up back then fats? It was before my time here.

that the year of sam vincent. my guess is we were fighting about mcinnis starting at pg, forcing felton to start at sg. that would have been a major hot button topic. the felton lovers wanted him at pg not sg and blamed his struggles on being out of position, the felton haters used mcinnis starting as fuel that felton sucked and couldnt even beat out a crappy vet for pg, while the mcinnis and vincent haters wanted to kill vincent for starting the worst player in the league and giving him big minutes, and of course, the herrmann lovers (me) were still pissed vincent traded him for nazr.

that year was a disaster, other than crash having some monster games.

Sam Vincent was the gm? :noway:

And what hurt Vincent was Okafor. He never bought in and tanked it during December. That started my hatred for him and a big reason why I can't stand him. That and his overrated defense. So horrible. eek

TheKingofSting · Post #1095 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed May 2, 2012 2:19 am

fatlever wrote:imagine if our next coach is an inexperienced idiot who decided to not only sign cory higgins for next season, traded henderson for a backup center and then started higgins at pg while moving kemba to sg. THAT was 2008. you can imagine the outrage and fighting.

That does sound like quite a year!

vorbis · Post #1096 » by **vorbis** » Wed May 2, 2012 2:26 am

fatlever wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:
fatlever wrote:http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=751366

i think everyone posting in this thread needs to take a few moments to read or re-read the forum rules.

I am reading them but just curious since this is the big issue now, what caused the rile up back then fats? It was before my time here.

that the year of sam vincent. my guess is we were fighting about mcinnis starting at pg, forcing felton to start at sg. that would have been a major hot button topic. the felton lovers wanted him at pg not sg and blamed his struggles on being out of position, the felton haters used mcinnis starting as fuel that felton sucked and couldnt even beat out a crappy vet for pg, while the mcinnis and vincent haters wanted to kill vincent for starting the worst player in the league and giving him big minutes, and of course, the herrmann lovers (me) were still pissed vincent traded him for nazr.

that year was a disaster, other than crash having some monster games.

pretty sure i was a lurker back then. horrible. i feel in some ways the bobcats have returned to that kind of ineptitude, but at least there's a high draft pick coming, and the hope of a new coach who can bring ambition to the fore and take this team somewhere.

JMAC3 · Post #1097 » by **JMAC3** » Thu May 3, 2012 4:39 am

I honestly think Kemba would excel in a Mike D'Antoni offense. He is fast enough to get out and run to get early offense and easy buckets. Also, Kemba struggles to run the point guard position because he has bad tempo. Many times he tries to push and he is by himself, then he waits for everyone to get set and then tries to run offense. By this time the offense has wasted 10 seconds on shot clock before even getting play called in. With D'Antoni pushing the tempo Kemba would get everybody easier shots.

The biggest plus would be Kemba learning how to effectively run the Pick and Roll offense from him. Look at the point guards D'Antoni has taught it to.... Nash, Lin, Dragic, to name a few. I think Kemba could really benefit from studying Nash tape and that would be part of his homework for running D'Antoni system.

I know everybody is against D'Antoni for the most part because he is overrated or what not.... but he could come in and do a lot of good things for this team. He would get the scoring up for sure. He would mold Kemba into a half way decent point guard for sure. He increases players values from running his system and getting everybodys scoring average up. I think Reggie would be awesome in his system much like the one he excelled in GSW. He could become a serious weapon off the bench and maybe a valuable trade chip by the end of next year if we dont see him as part of future.

Post #1098 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 3, 2012 12:28 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I honestly think Kemba would excel in a Mike D'Antoni offense.

He would have to significantly improve his decision making and court vision.

KembaWalker · Post #1099 » by **KembaWalker** » Thu May 3, 2012 2:50 pm

BigSlam wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:I honestly think Kemba would excel in a Mike D'Antoni offense.

He would have to significantly improve his decision making and court vision.

Nope. Lin wasn't a great passer before D'Antoni. Not in college, D-League or GSW. Kemba was better. Theres no reason to think he couldn't pick up that system better than Lin did. You are mistakenly trying to paint Kemba as a Toney Douglas level passer when he just isn't, the same mistake many people in this thread are making.

penquin11 · Post #1100 » by **penquin11** » Thu May 3, 2012 5:31 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:I honestly think Kemba would excel in a Mike D'Antoni offense.

He would have to significantly improve his decision making and court vision.

Nope. Lin wasn't a great passer before D'Antoni. Not in college, D-League or GSW. Kemba was better. Theres no reason to think he couldn't pick up that system better than Lin did. You are mistakenly trying to paint Kemba as a Toney Douglas level passer when he just isn't, the same mistake many people in this thread are making.

Yeah but Lin is an excellent contact shooter who frequently drives the lane and passes out of the iso, as soon as Kemba enters iso he locks on and simply bumbles up a terrible shot, lin almost always will drive in on his man or pass out of the iso to a more open team-mate. Furthermore Lin can run an offense at a fast pace- something Kemba can't do to save his life (see blown fastbreaks)..... If any player would mesh well with D'Antoni it would be Bismack Biyombo- who though 6'9 is extremely quick/pretty fast for his position- D'Antoni would try to develop him into a Stoudemire like player who excels in using his explosiveness to create easy buckets and to draw fouls. Alot of people forget that it took Stoudemire a few years to develop an efficient jumpshot, although he still is worlds ahead of Biyombo.

Speaking of pheonix coaches- I think that Alvin Gentry would likely be a great fit with Kemba Walker....