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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#241 » by Klomp » Tue May 1, 2012 7:38 pm

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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#242 » by NewWolvesOrder » Tue May 1, 2012 7:47 pm

Klomp wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7fbay7j


Why would the Kings sign up for this crap? And Tyreke is a terrible fit next to Turner. And I'm not a fan of it for the Wolves: Hayes is a bad fit next to Love and Pekovic and we give up a lot to get both him and Iguodala.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#243 » by Krapinsky » Tue May 1, 2012 8:15 pm

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Klomp wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7fbay7j


Why would the Kings sign up for this crap? And Tyreke is a terrible fit next to Turner. And I'm not a fan of it for the Wolves: Hayes is a bad fit next to Love and Pekovic and we give up a lot to get both him and Iguodala.


:lol: More importantly, why would we? Klomp has done it again...
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#244 » by Klomp » Tue May 1, 2012 8:51 pm

Derrick Williams is the only thing of worth we'd be giving up.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#245 » by Krapinsky » Tue May 1, 2012 8:54 pm

Klomp wrote:Derrick Williams is the only thing of worth we'd be giving up.


You're overpaying big time. Iggy isn't worth Williams and Hayes adds no value to the deal.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#246 » by The J Rocka » Tue May 1, 2012 9:10 pm

Klomp wrote:Derrick Williams is the only thing of worth we'd be giving up.

We could get Iggy using pieces like Webster/Johnson/Miller/Darko/UTA 1st or MEM 1st
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#247 » by NewWolvesOrder » Tue May 1, 2012 9:11 pm

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Klomp wrote:Derrick Williams is the only thing of worth we'd be giving up.


You're overpaying big time. Iggy isn't worth Williams and Hayes adds no value to the deal.


Yeah, there's no reason to add value to get Hayes. Let's try to add Iguodala as cheap as possible, protected non-lottery picks can go but let's keep Williams for better use.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#248 » by Klomp » Tue May 1, 2012 9:13 pm

Minnesota fans say Derrick Williams is too much to give up for Iguodala.
Philadelphia fans say Derrick Williams is not enough to get for Iguodala.

Seems like the kind of trade that will happen to me.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#249 » by Esohny » Tue May 1, 2012 9:32 pm

Klomp wrote:Minnesota fans say Derrick Williams is too much to give up for Iguodala.
Philadelphia fans say Derrick Williams is not enough to get for Iguodala.

Seems like the kind of trade that will happen to me.


What do neutral fans say?
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#250 » by NewWolvesOrder » Tue May 1, 2012 9:33 pm

Klomp wrote:Minnesota fans say Derrick Williams is too much to give up for Iguodala.
Philadelphia fans say Derrick Williams is not enough to get for Iguodala.

Seems like the kind of trade that will happen to me.


Philly fans are the worst. The hate Iguodala but want gold in return for him. Iguodala's situation reminds me of Big Al. Anybody remembers what we got for him?
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#251 » by Klomp » Tue May 1, 2012 9:38 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:Philly fans are the worst. The hate Iguodala but want gold in return for him. Iguodala's situation reminds me of Big Al. Anybody remembers what we got for him?


This yrs pick, next yrs MEM pick, Koufus
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#252 » by Krapinsky » Tue May 1, 2012 9:42 pm

Klomp wrote:Minnesota fans say Derrick Williams is too much to give up for Iguodala.
Philadelphia fans say Derrick Williams is not enough to get for Iguodala.

Seems like the kind of trade that will happen to me.


I don't believe that's what the majority of Philly fans on this board think. I think they have some very good, pretty objective posters on here. I believe they think they have no use for Derrick Williams, not that he isn't worth Iguodala. And that part I agree with.

I'd say if you want to use Williams as part of an Iguodala trade, then you need to make it a three way deal with Williams going to the third team and some additional incentive coming our way.

The 76er's needs would a younger shooter on the wing (an upgrade over Meeks) and a center.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#253 » by NewWolvesOrder » Tue May 1, 2012 9:45 pm

Klomp wrote:
Turnover_21 wrote:Philly fans are the worst. The hate Iguodala but want gold in return for him. Iguodala's situation reminds me of Big Al. Anybody remembers what we got for him?


This yrs pick, next yrs MEM pick, Koufus


I remember that but my point : Iguodala shouldn't fetch them more.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#254 » by NewWolvesOrder » Tue May 1, 2012 9:50 pm

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Klomp wrote:Minnesota fans say Derrick Williams is too much to give up for Iguodala.
Philadelphia fans say Derrick Williams is not enough to get for Iguodala.

Seems like the kind of trade that will happen to me.


I don't believe that's what the majority of Philly fans on this board think. I think they have some very good, pretty objective posters on here. I believe they think they have no use for Derrick Williams, not that he isn't worth Iguodala. And that part I agree with.

I'd say if you want to use Williams as part of an Iguodala trade, then you need to make it a three way deal with Williams going to the third team and some additional incentive coming our way.

The 76er's needs would a younger shooter on the wing (an upgrade over Meeks) and a center.


yeah, they have Young signed long term who's kind of similar to Williams though Derrick got more upside and talent.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#255 » by moss_is_1 » Tue May 1, 2012 9:58 pm

Saw on twitter someone asked Wolfson about the Wolves and Mayo...He said he's on our radar, and realistic and he doubts Memphis would match.

Still think he's our best bet. Waive Martell/Brad, amnesty Darko, and then we can re-sign Beasley / AR to lower their capholds....sign Mayo. Then we still have #18 / Wes / Ellington / Barea or Luke / AR / Beas and D-will as possible trade chips. What if this happened?

Trade Webster / Miller / #18 / Wes(~$14) for Iggy($14.7).

Amnesty Dorko.

Re-sign Beasley(maybe a deal around $5m, but short with an option for either side).
Sign Mayo to something around 6-7m per.

Rubio / Barea
Mayo / Ridnour / Ellington
Iggy / Beasley
Love / D-will
Pekovic / Love?

Could easily find a solid backup center for our cap exception or something, maybe someone like Kwame Brown / Nazr Mohammed.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#256 » by Grits n Gravy » Tue May 1, 2012 10:37 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:
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Turnover_21 wrote:Philly fans are the worst. The hate Iguodala but want gold in return for him. Iguodala's situation reminds me of Big Al. Anybody remembers what we got for him?


This yrs pick, next yrs MEM pick, Koufus


I remember that but my point : Iguodala shouldn't fetch them more.

it was last years number #20(domo - who i WISH we had kept) and this years number 18....the memphis pick came from the jonny flynn trade.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#257 » by Klomp » Tue May 1, 2012 11:20 pm

Grits n Gravy wrote:it was last years number #20(domo - who i WISH we had kept) and this years number 18....the memphis pick came from the jonny flynn trade.

Good catch
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#258 » by AQuintus » Wed May 2, 2012 1:09 am

moss_is_1 wrote:Rubio / Barea
Mayo / Ridnour / Ellington
Iggy / Beasley
Love / D-will
Pekovic / Love?


Rubio - 30+ minutes, Barea - 15-25 minutes = 45 -55 minutes, +3 to -7 minutes available
Mayo - 25 + minutes, Ridnour - 15-25 minutes = 40 - 50 minutes, +8 to -2 minutes available
Iggy - 35+ minutes, Beasley - 15-30 minutes = 50-65 minutes, -2 to -17 minutes available
Love - 35+ minutes, D-Will - 25+ minutes = 60+ minutes, -12+ minutes available
Pekovic - 30+ minutes, +18 minutes available

There's just not enough minutes to go around with this roster. If we get Iggy, one or both of Beasley and D-Will would have to go, and if we get Mayo, one or both of Barea and Ridnour would have to go.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#259 » by Klomp » Wed May 2, 2012 1:13 am

Beasley is gone. Little sense in assuming otherwise. And Love wouldn't be getting all 35 of his minutes at power forward either.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#260 » by Yes We Kahn » Wed May 2, 2012 2:09 am

I don't think they will get rid of Barea or Ridnour in the offseason with the uncertainty of Rubio's situation

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