New First Baseman.... please AA

number15 · Post #1 » by **number15** » Tue May 1, 2012 7:36 pm

Lind has sucked and it goes back much further than this season. He has never been the player that tore it up a few years ago. Plus his number look even worse if he's our starting "first baseman".

I would rather get David Cooper up here or even give Travis Snider a chance at 1B......

Cooper is mt first choice cause he deserves it, he could be the new age Lyle Overbay (when Overbay was actually good ofcourse)........ However, Snider has proven he deserves a MLB shot NOW, when he is healthy again ofcourse. This could be do-or-die time for Snider as a Jay in the near future.

what i mean is.. both these guys over LIND these days.

agree?

flatjacket1 · Post #2 » by **flatjacket1** » Tue May 1, 2012 7:58 pm

I agree completely. Anybody who classifies Cooper as a AAAA player, also classifies him as a replacement level player. What is a replacement level player? A player worth 0 WAR. Lind is on pace to finish the season with around -1 fWAR so if Cooper is a AAAA player, he is an improvememt. You are going to get a lot of hate for suggesting Cooper, but just remind them that if they call him a AAAA player, he MUST BE REPLACEMENT LEVEL, as the replacement level is classified as a "AAAA" player.

His career in the minors is a very respectable .300/.375/.464 slash line and an OPS of .838. Sure he doesn't have much power but it's not like Lind does anymore either, and it's worth noting Cooper had more extra base hits than singles, so he has SOME power.

I would consider moving Thames there as well, not Snider. The is no point having a plus defender in Snider learning to play a less demanding defensive position while our worst defender on the team keeps his spot in LF. I agree that having both Thames and Snider at LF and 1B is a good idea but the other way around. Same lineup offensively with both of them still in it, and a better look defensively for the other half of the inning.

I am also getting sick of JPA. Cost us several runs defensively, he's on pace to finish with the same fWAR as Lind. I think we need to give D'Arnaud a look, who batted around .360 or something over the last 11 games in AAA (and is much better defensively).

Post #3 » by **Duffman100** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:17 pm

Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

Wo1verine · Post #4 » by **Wo1verine** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:37 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

Because he makes 10M, bats LH, and had a strong 09 season blah, blah, blah nonsense.

TorontoRaptures · Post #5 » by **TorontoRaptures** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:40 pm

EE to 1B
Snider to LF
Thames to DH
Lind to the bench or traded.

It's really not rocket science.

Skin Blues · Post #6 » by **Skin Blues** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:57 pm

Wo1verine wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

Because he makes 10M, bats LH, and had a strong 09 season blah, blah, blah nonsense.

He makes $5M this season, $5M next season, and has an option for 2014. It's not peanuts, but also not enough to prevent him from being benched. Basically the same amount Teahen was making last season. If he can have any semblance of success he'd have decent trade value because teams love veterans with short contracts and options. The main problem is that he stinks.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #7 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:59 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

This x 1000000000000000.

Michael Bradley · Post #8 » by **Michael Bradley** » Tue May 1, 2012 9:20 pm

TorontoRaptures wrote:EE to 1B
Snider to LF
Thames to DH
Lind to the bench or traded.

It's really not rocket science.

Exactly. That was the logical move out of Spring Training. But I guess Lind is hard to move with 2/10 guaranteed left on his deal so AA feels he has no choice but to play him and hope he increases his value. Unfortunately, Lind makes Overbay look like Carlos Delgado, so the team is punishing itself to justify a contract rather than put the best talent on the field.

flatjacket1 · Post #9 » by **flatjacket1** » Tue May 1, 2012 10:44 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

This x 1000000000000000.

This makes a lot of sense. I agree as well.

U_Mad · Post #10 » by **U_Mad** » Tue May 1, 2012 11:39 pm

TorontoRaptures wrote:EE to 1B
Snider to LF
Thames to DH
Lind to the bench or traded.

It's really not rocket science.

Leave EE as the DH hes been tearing it up, lets put Snider at 1B

Back2back2back · Post #11 » by **Back2back2back** » Tue May 1, 2012 11:47 pm

I'm getting tired of watching Lind.

Trade him please for a bag of baseballs and a bag of Dorito Zesty Chips. mmmmmmmmmmmm!

Thanks Alex!

flatjacket1 · Post #12 » by **flatjacket1** » Wed May 2, 2012 12:05 am

U_Mad wrote:
Leave EE as the DH hes been tearing it up, lets put Snider at 1B

Why make Snider 1B over Thames? Snider is so much better defensively in LF, Thames is still negative in production due to his horrendous defense.

baulderdash77 · Post #13 » by **baulderdash77** » Wed May 2, 2012 12:21 am

I have a hard time thinking that there's nobody in the NL who would take Adam Lind from us. I think he'd do well there. It's time to move on.

U_Mad · Post #14 » by **U_Mad** » Wed May 2, 2012 12:40 am

flatjacket1 wrote:
U_Mad wrote:
Leave EE as the DH hes been tearing it up, lets put Snider at 1B

Why make Snider 1B over Thames? Snider is so much better defensively in LF, Thames is still negative in production due to his horrendous defense.

i guess but we can get a head start on Snider playing first on this b/c when Gose comes up one of he or Rasmus will have to move to left, unless we move Joey to first and Rasmus to RF but i believe Joey is a better fielder than Snider

tiger7 · Post #15 » by **tiger7** » Wed May 2, 2012 1:36 am

Duffman100 wrote:Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

+1 Been thinking this for the past 3 weeks.

Wally West · Post #16 » by **Wally West** » Wed May 2, 2012 1:47 am

Well there might be teams in the MLB that could take a little interested in him. Cleveland, Oakland, Seattle, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Houston, San Francisco all have very dicey 1B options. I still don't understand why San Fran doesn't just play Belt everyday at 1B though. He'd eventually figure things out.

joseph235 · Post #17 » by **joseph235** » Wed May 2, 2012 2:31 am

blackflash234 wrote:Well there might be teams in the MLB that could take a little interested in him. Cleveland, Oakland, Seattle, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Houston, San Francisco all have very dicey 1B options. I still don't understand why San Fran doesn't just play Belt everyday at 1B though. He'd eventually figure things out.

I so want Brandon Belt on this team.

Randle McMurphy · Post #18 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed May 2, 2012 2:59 am

Duffman100 wrote:Let's start with a simple step....stop batting him **** cleanup...seriously? What's with that?

It's pretty ridiculous. He hasn't been good in over 2 seasons, it's not like his sucking is unexpected.

baulderdash77 · Post #19 » by **baulderdash77** » Wed May 2, 2012 3:16 am

Don't let Wilner hear you guys. He thinks that Lind is going to become 2009 Adam Lind any day now. He's outraged by any kind of dissension on this.

Wo1verine · Post #20 » by **Wo1verine** » Wed May 2, 2012 3:26 am

baulderdash77 wrote:Don't let Wilner hear you guys. He thinks that Lind is going to become 2009 Adam Lind any day now. He's outraged by any kind of dissension on this.

Not sure why people still listen to this moron :lol:

EDIT; I can't believe i seen a Wilner sportsnet commercial, ha