Official Lottery Thread

[nevetsov]

Back to back lottery picks in ’08 and ’09 were the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence, but judging on the way things are going, they won’t need another one for a while.

Umm.. Kevin Durant?

[zerowolf88]

hoping we get austin rivers to be our pg.The phx suns version of russel westbrook

[Kerrsed]

hoping we get austin rivers to be our pg.The phx suns version of russel westbrook

[ATTL]

Back to back lottery picks in ’08 and ’09 were the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence, but judging on the way things are going, they won’t need another one for a while.

Umm.. Kevin Durant?

It doesn't sound as good if he adds Durant to the list as well.

I also like how added Jonas valanciunas to his list of busts without giving him a chance to play. Jonas is going to be a very good center in the nba. He has soft hands, a nice touch and good athleticism at the 5.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Back to back lottery picks in ’08 and ’09 were the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence, but judging on the way things are going, they won’t need another one for a while.

Umm.. Kevin Durant?

It doesn't sound as good if he adds Durant to the list as well.

I also like how added Jonas valanciunas to his list of busts without giving him a chance to play. Jonas is going to be a very good center in the nba. He has soft hands, a nice touch and good athleticism at the 5.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger guys, I never said I agree with his story or his thoughts on valuncias, I only said it's an interesting read is all, take from it what you want.

And not to nit pick, But technically wasn't Kevin Durant originally the rookie of the sonics before the new owner bought the team and moved them to okc?


And shortly after he purchased them,He changed their name and thusly they became the thunder? I believe!(and correct me if i'm wrong)He's refering to the team post acquisition, Wherein, they used the picks they got from our kurt thomas trade to draft both harden and ibaka subsequentially?

However, I do strongly believe that stern has a very well known reputation of setting the stage for things the way he sees fit. And I for my part do believe he rigs the lottery along with tampering in a great many other things to be certain. Just saying.

[Mjee]

hoping we get austin rivers to be our pg.The phx suns version of russel westbrook

That's what I am saying!! His acceleration is what makes him able to generate his own shot. He can almost get to the rim at will and that is something the suns are missing. He would be a great addition to our squad in my opinion. I know a lot of people on this board dislike him but everyone has their own opinions which is the beauty of an open forum. I think he has tremendous potential and i guarantee our FO will like him.

[bwgood77]

Back to back lottery picks in ’08 and ’09 were the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence, but judging on the way things are going, they won’t need another one for a while.

Umm.. Kevin Durant?

It doesn't sound as good if he adds Durant to the list as well.

I also like how added Jonas valanciunas to his list of busts without giving him a chance to play. Jonas is going to be a very good center in the nba. He has soft hands, a nice touch and good athleticism at the 5.

Agree about Jonas. Also, regarding the Sonics/Thunder....I read something about how if the Sonics had the #1 pick in the 2007 draft, they would have taken Oden, and if they had the #2 pick in the 2008 draft, they (or any team) would have taken Beasley.

So, everyone thinks of the Thunder when talking about how a couple of lottery picks can turn it around, but there is a TON of luck involved.

Also, the Blazers got the #1 pick one year (Oden) and Roy high in the draft the next year, and neither are playing any more.

The Suns have actually been pretty lucky the last couple of times they had top 10 picks in getting Marion (though that was a really good draft year) and Amare.

Another thing to consider....the higher pick might not always be better. Often times players who aren't ready to contribute yet are taken higher based on possible upside, but they end up being busts. They also take a larger chunk of your cap with a bigger salary and contract. (Not saying I wouldn't rather have a higher pick, but there are some positives)

Another thing worth mentioning is that Lance Blanks' background is as a scout. He was lead scout for the Spurs when they drafted Tony Parker and Luis Scola in successive years, both at #28. So he has been pretty good in the draft in the past. Kieff seemed like a decent pick at 13 as well.

[bwgood77]

And I for my part do believe he rigs the lottery along with tampering in a great many other things to be certain. Just saying.

And the lottery isn't rigged. They have an independent accounting firm. One of the big four firms which audit multinational corporations and sign off on public companies' annual reports to ensure they are accurate since their stocks are publicly traded.

They are the only ones who know the result prior to it being announced. If a big four firm was in on anything like that it would bring down the entire firm's credibility and destroy the business....not much different in the past when Arthur Andersen (the old biggest accounting firm) crumbled for being a part of Enron's fraud.

There is just no way. I might think it being rigged was a possiblity if you didn't have an independent accounting firm (one of the big ones) running the process.

[ShawnBronald]

Back to back lottery picks in ’08 and ’09 were the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence, but judging on the way things are going, they won’t need another one for a while.

Umm.. Kevin Durant?

Kevin Durant was drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics in 2007 (one year prior to them becoming the Thunder).

[RunDogGun]

And I for my part do believe he rigs the lottery along with tampering in a great many other things to be certain. Just saying.

And the lottery isn't rigged. They have an independent accounting firm. One of the big four firms which audit multinational corporations and sign off on public companies' annual reports to ensure they are accurate since their stocks are publicly traded.

They are the only ones who know the result prior to it being announced. If a big four firm was in on anything like that it would bring down the entire firm's credibility and destroy the business....not much different in the past when Arthur Andersen (the old biggest accounting firm) crumbled for being a part of Enron's fraud.

But by bringing up Arthur Anderson, aren't you giving an example of one of those huge companies being on the inside of corruption? Things are rigged all the time, and I wouldn't put it past the man, who "knows where all the bodies are buried."

[RunDogGun]

Back to back lottery picks in ’08 and ’09 were the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence, but judging on the way things are going, they won’t need another one for a while.

Umm.. Kevin Durant?

Kevin Durant was drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics in 2007 (one year prior to them becoming the Thunder).

But it is still the same team, having three consecutive lotto picks. Just because they changed cities and names, doesn't mean they lost all their players and started new.

Plus there is so much luck involved when you talk about OKC. Drafting the best player with the second pick, Stern helping the city at every turn to reward them for taking in the Hornets after Katrina, us giving them the Ibaka pick, and Boston giving them Perkins for a currently out of the league #5 pick.

[RunDogGun]

Oh and Ghost, we didn't give them both Harden and Ibaka from the KT thing. If we had, I think Sarver would have been killed by now. Harden was a gift from Stern.

They got Ibaka and Pendergrass, oh whatever his name is.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Oh and Ghost, we didn't give them both Harden and Ibaka from the KT thing. If we had, I think Sarver would have been killed by now. Harden was a gift from Stern.

They got Ibaka and Pendergrass, oh whatever his name is.

You're absolutely right! My bad. and all very good points man! Gotta love stern!

[bwgood77]

And I for my part do believe he rigs the lottery along with tampering in a great many other things to be certain. Just saying.

And the lottery isn't rigged. They have an independent accounting firm. One of the big four firms which audit multinational corporations and sign off on public companies' annual reports to ensure they are accurate since their stocks are publicly traded.

They are the only ones who know the result prior to it being announced. If a big four firm was in on anything like that it would bring down the entire firm's credibility and destroy the business....not much different in the past when Arthur Andersen (the old biggest accounting firm) crumbled for being a part of Enron's fraud.

But by bringing up Arthur Anderson, aren't you giving an example of one of those huge companies being on the inside of corruption? Things are rigged all the time, and I wouldn't put it past the man, who "knows where all the bodies are buried."

Yeah, but Enron was paying them a ton of money to be their auditors. If it was fixed, I doubt the Clips ever would have won, especially when Blake Griffin was in the draft. I don't doubt that the first lottery was possibly fixed, when Stern actually picked an envelope out, but now, it wouldn't be worth it to them to take that risk, especially with all the scrutiny.

[ShawnBronald]

But it is still the same team, having three consecutive lotto picks. Just because they changed cities and names, doesn't mean they lost all their players and started new.

Plus there is so much luck involved when you talk about OKC. Drafting the best player with the second pick, Stern helping the city at every turn to reward them for taking in the Hornets after Katrina, us giving them the Ibaka pick, and Boston giving them Perkins for a currently out of the league #5 pick.

That's true, and I agree that it's weird that they act as though the Sonics and Thunder are two different entities, but I was only pointing out the fact the article specifically reads, "the only lottery picks the Thunder organization has ever had in it’s short existence".

[nevetsov]

Kevin Durant was drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics in 2007 (one year prior to them becoming the Thunder).

But it is still the same team, having three consecutive lotto picks. Just because they changed cities and names, doesn't mean they lost all their players and started new.

Plus there is so much luck involved when you talk about OKC. Drafting the best player with the second pick, Stern helping the city at every turn to reward them for taking in the Hornets after Katrina, us giving them the Ibaka pick, and Boston giving them Perkins for a currently out of the league #5 pick.

Precisely, beat me to the punch RDG. He was still a lotto pick for that roster that is contributing to their current success.

[RunDogGun]

Kevin Durant was drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics in 2007 (one year prior to them becoming the Thunder).

But it is still the same team, having three consecutive lotto picks. Just because they changed cities and names, doesn't mean they lost all their players and started new.

Plus there is so much luck involved when you talk about OKC. Drafting the best player with the second pick, Stern helping the city at every turn to reward them for taking in the Hornets after Katrina, us giving them the Ibaka pick, and Boston giving them Perkins for a currently out of the league #5 pick.

Precisely, beat me to the punch RDG. He was still a lotto pick for that roster that is contributing to their current success.

Dude,how was your trip? If you want to post it in the community thread, it's cool.

[nevetsov]

Dude,how was your trip? If you want to post it in the community thread, it's cool.

Hey RDG, it was amazing mate. Sorry for the lack of communication around here, been so busy since I've come back. Got some great photos which I've put on FB and hope to put on here when I have time.

Got to meet/ get photos with Grant Hill, Michael Redd, Channing Frye and Al McCoy which was awesome!

[Ghost of Kleine]

Actually, If you think about it, it's just very convenient that a costantly struggling franchise in the l.a. clippers would get such a dynamically athletic and explosive franchise prospect, right around the time that kobe was said to be starting to deteriorate. Just seems to me to nbe classic stern stirring the pot, and creating another point of interest to gain more revenue. And then later, Go figure?

While stern was running the hornets, they trade paul to the clippers! Now basically completing another l.a. juggernaught to take over for when kobe retires!

I think stern is so crafty a planner, that knowing his laker mealticket is not gonna be around forever,He planned ahead and as he does so well, He set the stage!

I know that this is all very speculative, But If they really weren't rigged,and predetermined, than why not just put all these bad rumors to rest by just doing open lotteries where the public can watch! thus eliminating any suspicions?

That is it was kinda funny that the rep for the clips that year already had the #1 pick embroidered into his blazer when they announced the picks?

As Clippers president Andy Roeser celebrated an unexpected lottery victory, somewhere Kings fans were lamenting their fate.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/b ... z1twddcrhr.