Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Anthony Davis

KRANG · Post #21 » by **KRANG** » Thu May 3, 2012 5:32 am

Chance cannot actually be measured in percentages.

We have as much "chance" as any other team in the lottery. This is still possible.

Pooh_Jeter · Post #22 » by **Pooh_Jeter** » Thu May 3, 2012 5:55 am

mowe wrote:Guys do you think BC should draft Davis if he's available at 8? I personally think we should go for Jeremy Lamb but I think Davis could be a sleeper.

I agree, Anthony Davis has a lot of potential, but we already have Ed, Amir and Bargs at the 4. He would probably be BPA at 8 though.

fredericklove · Post #23 » by **fredericklove** » Thu May 3, 2012 6:11 am

Pooh_Jeter wrote:
mowe wrote:Guys do you think BC should draft Davis if he's available at 8? I personally think we should go for Jeremy Lamb but I think Davis could be a sleeper.

I agree, Anthony Davis has a lot of potential, but we already have Ed, Amir and Bargs at the 4. He would probably be BPA at 8 though.

Those three don't mean a thing if we can get Davis here. He's pretty much BPA at any draft position.

Scase · Post #24 » by **Scase** » Thu May 3, 2012 6:29 am

fredericklove wrote:
Pooh_Jeter wrote:
mowe wrote:Guys do you think BC should draft Davis if he's available at 8? I personally think we should go for Jeremy Lamb but I think Davis could be a sleeper.

I agree, Anthony Davis has a lot of potential, but we already have Ed, Amir and Bargs at the 4. He would probably be BPA at 8 though.

Those three don't mean a thing if we can get Davis here. He's pretty much BPA at any draft position.

hankscorpioLA · Post #25 » by **hankscorpioLA** » Thu May 3, 2012 6:44 am

There is a 3.5% chance that Anthony Davis will be on the board when the Raptors have their pick.

sca · Post #26 » by **sca** » Thu May 3, 2012 10:53 am

fredericklove wrote:
Pooh_Jeter wrote:
mowe wrote:Guys do you think BC should draft Davis if he's available at 8? I personally think we should go for Jeremy Lamb but I think Davis could be a sleeper.

I agree, Anthony Davis has a lot of potential, but we already have Ed, Amir and Bargs at the 4. He would probably be BPA at 8 though.

Those three don't mean a thing if we can get Davis here. He's pretty much BPA at any draft position.

BillyGM · Post #27 » by **BillyGM** » Thu May 3, 2012 12:21 pm

Anthony Davis will be added as a finalist for the U.S. Olympic roster, according to sources.

Davis, 19, averaged 14.2 points, 10.2 rebounds and 4.7 blocks this past season for national champion Kentucky.

Team USA must submit its final 12-man roster by June 18.

Post #28 » by **niQ** » Thu May 3, 2012 2:47 pm

Don't worry guys, we have 3.5%! That's all we need. Let's go! lol

hankscorpioLA · Post #29 » by **hankscorpioLA** » Thu May 3, 2012 2:52 pm

KRANG wrote:Chance cannot actually be measured in percentages.

Of course it can.

KRANG · Post #30 » by **KRANG** » Thu May 3, 2012 3:02 pm

hankscorpioLA wrote:
KRANG wrote:Chance cannot actually be measured in percentages.

Of course it can.

No I'm sorry it can't. That's why no one can successfully predict the order.

416 · Post #31 » by **416** » Thu May 3, 2012 4:05 pm

KRANG wrote:
hankscorpioLA wrote:
KRANG wrote:Chance cannot actually be measured in percentages.

Of course it can.

No I'm sorry it can't. That's why no one can successfully predict the order.

Chance can be measured through the frequency of its observable outcomes; frequency doesn't mean that it can accurately predict the order in which things appear (that part is the random part).

So a 3.5% chance of winning doesn't mean that anyone with a higher probability of success will go ahead of us. It is just more likely for that event to happen.

In the long run, if we participated in an infinite amount of drafts (with the same number of ping pong balls), the frequency of us landing the first overall pick is 7 out of 200 times. That is all it is saying. No more no less.

Prestige · Post #32 » by **Prestige** » Thu May 3, 2012 4:48 pm

mowe wrote:Guys do you think BC should draft Davis if he's available at 8? I personally think we should go for Jeremy Lamb but I think Davis could be a sleeper.

If Meyers Leonard or Zeller aren't on the board on 8th I would strongly consider Davis..

mapko81 · Post #33 » by **mapko81** » Thu May 3, 2012 5:09 pm

If we actually win the lottery and draft Davis we would become contenders in a short amount of time... you can then trade Bargnani for an SF (straight up for Iguodala perhaps)... and you better believe Nash, or even Deron Williams, would gladly play with a quartet of Derozan, Iguodala, Davis and Valanciunas.

RalphWiggum · Post #34 » by **RalphWiggum** » Thu May 3, 2012 6:36 pm

Anthony Davis is going to be a bust compared to the lofty expectations being put on him. I'm calling Marcus Camby type player. He will be marginally better on the offensive end and basically identical on the defensive end. I'll be shocked if he ever turns out to be a consensus top 10 player in the league. He'll be a great secondary star but any team relying on him to win them a title is going to be disappointed.

Post #35 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Thu May 3, 2012 6:41 pm

I really want to know who the 5 people are that put 10%, if he's there at #8 you take him and run and thank the other 7 teams for having the biggest brain farts in NBA history.

Davis is a prospect you can build championships around. There is no way Toronto gets him this draft unless we are trading multiple picks + Jonas V and DeRozan

fredericklove · Post #36 » by **fredericklove** » Thu May 3, 2012 6:42 pm

RalphWiggum wrote:Anthony Davis is going to be a bust compared to the lofty expectations being put on him. I'm calling Marcus Camby type player. He will be marginally better on the offensive end and basically identical on the defensive end. I'll be shocked if he ever turns out to be a consensus top 10 player in the league. He'll be a great secondary star but any team relying on him to win them a title is going to be disappointed.

Camby with offense is considered a bust? Wow you are hard to please. Btw he is exactly the type you rely on to win playoff games and even championship especially on the defensive end.

God Squad · Post #37 » by **God Squad** » Fri May 4, 2012 12:49 am

fredericklove wrote:
RalphWiggum wrote:Anthony Davis is going to be a bust compared to the lofty expectations being put on him. I'm calling Marcus Camby type player. He will be marginally better on the offensive end and basically identical on the defensive end. I'll be shocked if he ever turns out to be a consensus top 10 player in the league. He'll be a great secondary star but any team relying on him to win them a title is going to be disappointed.

Camby with offense is considered a bust? Wow you are hard to please. Btw he is exactly the type you rely on to win playoff games and even championship especially on the defensive end.

BirdmanPresents · Post #38 » by **BirdmanPresents** » Fri May 4, 2012 1:39 am

I don't like the defensive big man comparison's at all. He wasn't known for an inside shot blocker type (like Nerlens Noel) until his one year at Kentucky. Not saying he isn't going to be a phenomenal shot blocker, but that's not the most exciting thing about his game.

His perimeter skill level and versatility is off the charts. I see him more in a Kevin Durant mold, but not as great of a scorer. He can dribble and shoot the ball almost as good as alot of 3's in the NBA. If he bulks up, he can become a great post guy and a monster on the defensive end, but if he doesn't he could be a Kevin Durant type as more of a facilitator.

What I really want to see in a few years is if Durant transitions to the 4, and him and Davis go up against each other. That would create some great battles.

JamesNaismith · Post #39 » by **JamesNaismith** » Fri May 4, 2012 4:22 am

A pinch wouldn't be enough to think I'm awake.

RalphWiggum · Post #40 » by **RalphWiggum** » Fri May 4, 2012 9:43 pm

fredericklove wrote:
RalphWiggum wrote:Anthony Davis is going to be a bust compared to the lofty expectations being put on him. I'm calling Marcus Camby type player. He will be marginally better on the offensive end and basically identical on the defensive end. I'll be shocked if he ever turns out to be a consensus top 10 player in the league. He'll be a great secondary star but any team relying on him to win them a title is going to be disappointed.

Camby with offense is considered a bust? Wow you are hard to please. Btw he is exactly the type you rely on to win playoff games and even championship especially on the defensive end.

People are talking like this guy is an instant franchise changer and the best big outside of Duncan and Yao to hit the NBA in a long time. That is the barometer I'm using when I say he is going to be a bust, not in the sense he will not be a very good player. If Anthony Davis turns out to be Marcus Camby plus 3-4 points a night and give or take a couple small variables elsewhere you're telling me that won't be a bit of a let down?

I'm not saying that Davis can't be an integral part of a championship team (because I think he can) but I stand by my statement that he will never be "THE" integral piece. He is not and never will be a Tim Duncan type player which is close to where the hype is at. If he wins a chip it will be as the second best player on the team.

Any team that is relying on Davis to dig them out of a 12 point hole in the 4th quarter of a big playoff game is going to find out his limitations as a bona fide superstar very quickly. Davis played on a team loaded with talent where teams couldn't simply gameplan to neutralize him because there was literally 4-5 other guys who could beat them even if Davis was a non factor. He is not going to have that luxury in the NBA. He is also now going against much bigger and stronger players (I know all guys that get drafted are) and I think his ability to change the game defensively unless he can put on some serious muscle (which I worry about when I look at his frame) is never going to be what it was in college. Guys in the NBA will create the space to score with their sheer strength in a way that he never had to face in college. I also really question his ability to score one on one at the next level, he seems to really take advantage of that hectic nature of college ball that he will not see in the NBA.

5 years from now I'm guessing that there will be at least a couple players who come out of this draft that teams if they had a do over would take over Davis. Like I said earlier that's not to say Davis will not be a good player I just don't see his game translating that well to the pro game when compared to the things he was doing at Kentucky.

If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?