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tdotrep2 wrote:don't know why this thread is not just used like it has been for 12 parts. I understand the individual threads after one has been drafted.
Dr Mufasa wrote:LittleOzzy you missed the Meyers Leonard thread: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1177886
spade57 wrote:Dr Mufasa wrote:LittleOzzy you missed the Meyers Leonard thread: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1177886
Ohh Mufasa this post just made my day. <3
JN wrote:
Crowder was a senior, not a sophomore. He spent two years in junior college. He is two or three years older then most other prospects.
Crowder had a great season - Big East Player of the Year (IIRC - maybe it was Kevin Jones). You know the guy will be a do it all 3, the type that can play bigger or smaller in the crunch. Only concern would be quickness on D at the next level.
That being said I can definetely see a team between 23-30 having interest in Crowder.
spade57 wrote:Ohh Mufasa this post just made my day. <3
parks3981 wrote:Am I the only one high on Moe Harkless?
Has age on his side (he's still only 18), put up great numbers in his freshman season, rebounds like a demon for a SF (8 per game), has nice size and length (6' 8" with a 7' 2" wingspan), averaged 1.5 steals and blocks per game, is an active defender, put up great numbers against big time schools (Duke and Kentucky), has great athleticism and fluidity to his game and seems to have all the tools that a coach can work with to develop.
I think he has great upside and would fit well in Casey's system at the 3 to fill out a front line of Andrea and Val (outside of his inability to hit 3's at a consistent clip but his form looks like he will be more than capable down the road).
parks3981 wrote:Am I the only one high on Moe Harkless?
Has age on his side (he's still only 18), put up great numbers in his freshman season, rebounds like a demon for a SF (8 per game), has nice size and length (6' 8" with a 7' 2" wingspan), averaged 1.5 steals and blocks per game, is an active defender, put up great numbers against big time schools (Duke and Kentucky), has great athleticism and fluidity to his game and seems to have all the tools that a coach can work with to develop.
I think he has great upside and would fit well in Casey's system at the 3 to fill out a front line of Andrea and Val (outside of his inability to hit 3's at a consistent clip but his form looks like he will be more than capable down the road).
parks3981 wrote:Am I the only one high on Moe Harkless?
Has age on his side (he's still only 18), put up great numbers in his freshman season, rebounds like a demon for a SF (8 per game), has nice size and length (6' 8" with a 7' 2" wingspan), averaged 1.5 steals and blocks per game, is an active defender, put up great numbers against big time schools (Duke and Kentucky), has great athleticism and fluidity to his game and seems to have all the tools that a coach can work with to develop.
I think he has great upside and would fit well in Casey's system at the 3 to fill out a front line of Andrea and Val (outside of his inability to hit 3's at a consistent clip but his form looks like he will be more than capable down the road).
FluLikeSymptoms wrote:N1QUE24 wrote:I just want to pick Austin Rivers and get this circus over with. Go big or go home.
I guess you're going home. He's 6'4.
fredericklove wrote:parks3981 wrote:Am I the only one high on Moe Harkless?
Has age on his side (he's still only 18), put up great numbers in his freshman season, rebounds like a demon for a SF (8 per game), has nice size and length (6' 8" with a 7' 2" wingspan), averaged 1.5 steals and blocks per game, is an active defender, put up great numbers against big time schools (Duke and Kentucky), has great athleticism and fluidity to his game and seems to have all the tools that a coach can work with to develop.
I think he has great upside and would fit well in Casey's system at the 3 to fill out a front line of Andrea and Val (outside of his inability to hit 3's at a consistent clip but his form looks like he will be more than capable down the road).
you're not the only one, alot of people here are high on him but not at the 8th pick. If BC can trade both 2nd rounders for him, that'll be great.
Undefeated wrote:I don't remember Moe Harkless dominating against UK. If he did, he would of stood out. That game was over by the second-half. It was a block party for Anthony Davis that game.
JN wrote:Harkless is a good player, but his scoring numbers have to be carefully considered against other younger players. St. John's was an extremely young team that was about one man deep (for the mpst part all frosh and a new JUCO or two). Harkless was able to get all the shots he wanted. So his scoring average is inflated compared to others (so you can't say Harkless was atheltic and he got more points then "x"), but at the same his shooting efficiencies may not be that projectable either. That's where a scout is needed to assess how he is against other young players -- I'm not sure.
But he is versatile, played out of position at the 4 alot, but was able to fill the stat sheet.
I doubt someone takes him in the top 10, but someone around 15 thinking upside and atleticism will certainly take him.
Dr Mufasa wrote:I decided to look at PERs for players picked 8 to 14 in previous drafts..
Of 35, 19 were under 15 PER or not in the league. That number includes a few valuable players like Brewer/Thabo/Psycho but also excludes a few like Hill, Bayless, B Wright that the drafting teams didn't get anything out of. The players I consider undoubtable successes for the team that drafted them are Gay, Redick, Noah, Young, Lopez, Jennings, Psycho, George and Hayward. (9/35) Also the total amount these players have traded teams in this 6 year window is staggering.
This is the biggest reason why you have to draft BPA. The number of teams who get no return on their draft pick in our position is ridiculously high. Beggars can't be choosers
