Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For Us

[mhectorgato]

Why pay Ryno 6 mil when we can get Novak for cheaper?

Or get rid of all these shooters. Truth is, Magic was built wrong. Only our idiot GM and coach believes a team consist of three point shooters can win longterm.

Beating the KG-less Celtics and Lebron-Cavs was the worst thing that happened to Dwight, he has to play with a bunch of role players that only like to shoot.

Funny thing is there are some people who want our best player to be a good role player (by playing defense and stop complaining about not getting enough touches), so our role players can take all the shots they want and not play defense. Hilarious.

Where did you get your degree in hyperbole?

[G-Heel]

Why pay Ryno 6 mil when we can get Novak for cheaper?

Or get rid of all these shooters. Truth is, Magic was built wrong. Only our idiot GM and coach believes a team consist of three point shooters can win longterm.

Beating the KG-less Celtics and Lebron-Cavs was the worst thing that happened to Dwight, he has to play with a bunch of role players that only like to shoot.

Funny thing is there are some people who want our best player to be a good role player (by playing defense and stop complaining about not getting enough touches), so our role players can take all the shots they want and not play defense. Hilarious.

Where did you get your degree in hyperbole?

Which part I said was wrong?

[mhectorgato]

Or get rid of all these shooters. Truth is, Magic was built wrong. Only our idiot GM and coach believes a team consist of three point shooters can win longterm.

Beating the KG-less Celtics and Lebron-Cavs was the worst thing that happened to Dwight, he has to play with a bunch of role players that only like to shoot.

Funny thing is there are some people who want our best player to be a good role player (by playing defense and stop complaining about not getting enough touches), so our role players can take all the shots they want and not play defense. Hilarious.

Where did you get your degree in hyperbole?

Which part I said was wrong?

[G-Heel]

Or get rid of all these shooters. Truth is, Magic was built wrong. Only our idiot GM and coach believes a team consist of three point shooters can win longterm.

Beating the KG-less Celtics and Lebron-Cavs was the worst thing that happened to Dwight, he has to play with a bunch of role players that only like to shoot.

Funny thing is there are some people who want our best player to be a good role player (by playing defense and stop complaining about not getting enough touches), so our role players can take all the shots they want and not play defense. Hilarious.

There were people that said Dwight should only focused on playing defense, and trade him if he doesn't. Which essentially make him a role player. They said we should let Jameer, JJ, and Ryno takes control of the offense. Basically, letting our role players do what they want. I guess I could've phrase it better, but no, we do have some crazy fans that said those stuffs.

[mhectorgato]

Or get rid of all these shooters. Truth is, Magic was built wrong. Only our idiot GM and coach believes a team consist of three point shooters can win longterm.

Beating the KG-less Celtics and Lebron-Cavs was the worst thing that happened to Dwight, he has to play with a bunch of role players that only like to shoot.

Funny thing is there are some people who want our best player to be a good role player (by playing defense and stop complaining about not getting enough touches), so our role players can take all the shots they want and not play defense. Hilarious.

There were people that said Dwight should only focused on playing defense, and trade him if he doesn't. Which essentially make him a role player. They said we should let Jameer, JJ, and Ryno takes control of the offense. Basically, letting our role players do what they want. I guess I could've phrase it better, but no, we do have some crazy fans that said those stuffs.

Did people say "only" play defense? Or did people say our team is better when D12 is focus on defense moreso than his offense?

If 1 or 2 "extreme" opinions were posted saying that Otis is the best GM, would that you grant liberty to say "there were people who said that Otis is the best GM."?

Technically that's true, but you keep throwing things that a vast and overwhelming minority of people have said and try to make it sound like it was a large percentage of people were wrong, and by inference you were right.


When our offense is purely focused on getting D12 the ball (and when he's not complaining to press that we need to play the "right" way) our offense doesn't get ground down.

When our offense is bring the ball across court, wait for D12 to get position, and dump him the ball with :10 in the clock, our offense becomes stagnant.

[The Real Dalic]

Or get rid of all these shooters. Truth is, Magic was built wrong. Only our idiot GM and coach believes a team consist of three point shooters can win longterm.

Beating the KG-less Celtics and Lebron-Cavs was the worst thing that happened to Dwight, he has to play with a bunch of role players that only like to shoot.

Funny thing is there are some people who want our best player to be a good role player (by playing defense and stop complaining about not getting enough touches), so our role players can take all the shots they want and not play defense. Hilarious.

There were people that said Dwight should only focused on playing defense, and trade him if he doesn't. Which essentially make him a role player. They said we should let Jameer, JJ, and Ryno takes control of the offense. Basically, letting our role players do what they want. I guess I could've phrase it better, but no, we do have some crazy fans that said those stuffs.

I still believe Dwight should have the Tyson Chandler role, worry about defense and we'll only give him a few post ups, and he can get most of his points from putbacks and Pick-And-Rolls.

That doesn't mean I think he's a roll player it's just that his post ups slow down the offense too much. He needs to get better at passing out of double teams, not turning the ball over, and making his free throws if he really wants to be "the closer".

We got to the finals when he was worrying more about defense than offense.

[G-Heel]

There were people that said Dwight should only focused on playing defense, and trade him if he doesn't. Which essentially make him a role player. They said we should let Jameer, JJ, and Ryno takes control of the offense. Basically, letting our role players do what they want. I guess I could've phrase it better, but no, we do have some crazy fans that said those stuffs.

Did people say "only" play defense? Or did people say our team is better when D12 is focus on defense moreso than his offense?

If 1 or 2 "extreme" opinions were posted saying that Otis is the best GM, would that you grant liberty to say "there were people who said that Otis is the best GM."?

Technically that's true, but you keep throwing things that a vast and overwhelming minority of people have said and try to make it sound like it was a large percentage of people were wrong, and by inference you were right.


When our offense is purely focused on getting D12 the ball (and when he's not complaining to press that we need to play the "right" way) our offense doesn't get ground down.

When our offense is bring the ball across court, wait for D12 to get position, and dump him the ball with :10 in the clock, our offense becomes stagnant.

I said there were people, I didn't said everyone. Also, in those threads, there didn't seem to be many people disagreeing. Maybe you guys thought it was too crazy to bother responding to so didn't, I don't know. I just assumed there were many people agreed. Point is, there were more than a few people advocating we trade Dwight and build around this "H&H" team, which I thought was ridiculous.

Now that I think about it, you might be one of them that preferred to trade Dwight. I guess that's why you're nitpicking at what I said. Apologies if you weren't.

[mhectorgato]

There were people that said Dwight should only focused on playing defense, and trade him if he doesn't. Which essentially make him a role player. They said we should let Jameer, JJ, and Ryno takes control of the offense. Basically, letting our role players do what they want. I guess I could've phrase it better, but no, we do have some crazy fans that said those stuffs.

Did people say "only" play defense? Or did people say our team is better when D12 is focus on defense moreso than his offense?

If 1 or 2 "extreme" opinions were posted saying that Otis is the best GM, would that you grant liberty to say "there were people who said that Otis is the best GM."?

Technically that's true, but you keep throwing things that a vast and overwhelming minority of people have said and try to make it sound like it was a large percentage of people were wrong, and by inference you were right.


When our offense is purely focused on getting D12 the ball (and when he's not complaining to press that we need to play the "right" way) our offense doesn't get ground down.

When our offense is bring the ball across court, wait for D12 to get position, and dump him the ball with :10 in the clock, our offense becomes stagnant.

I said there were people, I didn't said everyone. Also, in those threads, there didn't seem to be many people disagreeing. Maybe you guys thought it was too crazy to bother responding to so didn't, I don't know. I just assumed there were many people agreed. Point is, there were more than a few people advocating we trade Dwight and build around this "H&H" team, which I thought was ridiculous.

Now that I think about it, you might be one of them that preferred to trade Dwight. I guess that's why you're nitpicking at what I said. Apologies if you weren't.

From what I saw, people were saying (myself included) they would rather have a H&H team than the Prima Donna D12 of this season.

Big difference from people saying to build around this H&H team. No one wants Duhon. Pretty much no one wants J-Rich and Hedo. Many don't want Jameer.

If we were to trade D12, we may not get "equal" value in a single player. But there's the possibility to get several very good players.

Do I want to trade D12 -- only if he continues what I consider actions detrimental to the team. If he becomes the D12 of a few seasons ago, the heck yea I want him.

I want D12 to a focus of the team on offense, just not THE focus. We're so much more dangerous when there's balance.

[G-Heel]

I still believe Dwight should have the Tyson Chandler role, worry about defense and we'll only give him a few post ups, and he can get most of his points from putbacks and Pick-And-Rolls.

That doesn't mean I think he's a roll player it's just that his post ups slow down the offense too much. He needs to get better at passing out of double teams, not turning the ball over, and making his free throws if he really wants to be "the closer".

We got to the finals when he was worrying more about defense than offense.

Dwight is too good to be in a Chandler role. That's not utilizing his talent. I do agree with you that we're a better team when Dwight is locked in on defense, but until we can find a true go-to scorer Dwight is still our best option on offense.

It's Stan's offensive scheme that isn't working. We don't try to get Dwight easy shots, all we do is have him post up. That's not going to work all the time, no matter how good offensively the player is. This is why we need a new coach, along with a real PG.

[G-Heel]

Did people say "only" play defense? Or did people say our team is better when D12 is focus on defense moreso than his offense?

If 1 or 2 "extreme" opinions were posted saying that Otis is the best GM, would that you grant liberty to say "there were people who said that Otis is the best GM."?

Technically that's true, but you keep throwing things that a vast and overwhelming minority of people have said and try to make it sound like it was a large percentage of people were wrong, and by inference you were right.


When our offense is purely focused on getting D12 the ball (and when he's not complaining to press that we need to play the "right" way) our offense doesn't get ground down.

When our offense is bring the ball across court, wait for D12 to get position, and dump him the ball with :10 in the clock, our offense becomes stagnant.

I said there were people, I didn't said everyone. Also, in those threads, there didn't seem to be many people disagreeing. Maybe you guys thought it was too crazy to bother responding to so didn't, I don't know. I just assumed there were many people agreed. Point is, there were more than a few people advocating we trade Dwight and build around this "H&H" team, which I thought was ridiculous.

Now that I think about it, you might be one of them that preferred to trade Dwight. I guess that's why you're nitpicking at what I said. Apologies if you weren't.

From what I saw, people were saying (myself included) they would rather have a H&H team than the Prima Donna D12 of this season.

Big difference from people saying to build around this H&H team. No one wants Duhon. Pretty much no one wants J-Rich and Hedo. Many don't want Jameer.

If we were to trade D12, we may not get "equal" value in a single player. But there's the possibility to get several very good players.

Do I want to trade D12 -- only if he continues what I consider actions detrimental to the team. If he becomes the D12 of a few seasons ago, the heck yea I want him.

I want D12 to a focus of the team on offense, just not THE focus. We're so much more dangerous when there's balance.

Like I said on the post above this one, Dwight is still our best option offensively until we can find a true go-to scorer. It's not Dwight's fault if his teammates aren't good defensive player.

Also, the reason our offense is so bad when we deferred to Dwight is because our other players, most of the time, just dump him the ball 10 feet away from the basket and expect him to go to work. None of them are good off-the-ball players, with exception of JJ. Jameer needs the ball to be effective, but isn't consistent nor a good passer. We desperately need a PG that can get Dwight easy baskets, our team will be so much better when that happens.

[The Real Dalic]

I still believe Dwight should have the Tyson Chandler role, worry about defense and we'll only give him a few post ups, and he can get most of his points from putbacks and Pick-And-Rolls.

That doesn't mean I think he's a roll player it's just that his post ups slow down the offense too much. He needs to get better at passing out of double teams, not turning the ball over, and making his free throws if he really wants to be "the closer".

We got to the finals when he was worrying more about defense than offense.

Dwight is too good to be in a Chandler role. That's not utilizing his talent. I do agree with you that we're a better team when Dwight is locked in on defense, but until we can find a true go-to scorer Dwight is still our best option on offense.

It's Stan's offensive scheme that isn't working. We don't try to get Dwight easy shots, all we do is have him post up. That's not going to work all the time, no matter how good offensively the player is. This is why we need a new coach, along with a real PG.

I actually don't disagree with you. My problem is that I do think we underrate our guys offensively when Dwight is healthy. I don't think it would be championship contender offense, but it would be better than what we have when Dwight's healthy.

Otis, Stan, and most players need to go. We wouldn't even be having these discussions if Otis didn't make this sorry team and if Stan made quicker adjustments and stops rewarding guys that don't deserve it.

[mhectorgato]

Like I said on the post above this one, Dwight is still our best option offensively until we can find a true go-to scorer. It's not Dwight's fault if his teammates aren't good defensive player.

That's on Otis.

Also, the reason our offense is so bad when we deferred to Dwight is because our other players, most of the time, just dump him the ball 10 feet away from the basket and expect him to go to work. None of them are good off-the-ball players, with exception of JJ. Jameer needs the ball to be effective, but isn't consistent nor a good passer. We desperately need a PG that can get Dwight easy baskets, our team will be so much better when that happens.

Well if that's the best position he can get, we can't dump it in when he's 5 feet from the basket....

Another problem with making him the offensive focus, is that D12 showed better passing skills earlier in the season and then regressed again. This is kinda like how he starts off taking jumpshots, then abandons it.

He also, like most of our team, goes into hero mode. When a defender is able to push him off the block, he still forces an awkward hook, which many times misses badly.

**

Bottom line - and something we agree on - is that we need an overhaul. We have different opinions about who should stay or go (Jameer for example, though my opinion is changing due to his injuries), but we need some serious retooling.

[Hilltop]

I still believe Dwight should have the Tyson Chandler role, worry about defense and we'll only give him a few post ups, and he can get most of his points from putbacks and Pick-And-Rolls.

That doesn't mean I think he's a roll player it's just that his post ups slow down the offense too much. He needs to get better at passing out of double teams, not turning the ball over, and making his free throws if he really wants to be "the closer".

We got to the finals when he was worrying more about defense than offense.

Dwight is too good to be in a Chandler role. That's not utilizing his talent. I do agree with you that we're a better team when Dwight is locked in on defense, but until we can find a true go-to scorer Dwight is still our best option on offense.

It's Stan's offensive scheme that isn't working. We don't try to get Dwight easy shots, all we do is have him post up. That's not going to work all the time, no matter how good offensively the player is. This is why we need a new coach, along with a real PG.

Bingo

[NickAnderson]

When Dwight's main focus was defense and feeding off of putbacks and pick n rolls, that's how we made it to the finals. Until we somehow get another star that is how we will have to play most of the time. With some extra post ups though.

[WeAreVenom]

I still believe Dwight should have the Tyson Chandler role, worry about defense and we'll only give him a few post ups, and he can get most of his points from putbacks and Pick-And-Rolls.

That doesn't mean I think he's a roll player it's just that his post ups slow down the offense too much. He needs to get better at passing out of double teams, not turning the ball over, and making his free throws if he really wants to be "the closer".

We got to the finals when he was worrying more about defense than offense.

Dwight is too good to be in a Chandler role. That's not utilizing his talent. I do agree with you that we're a better team when Dwight is locked in on defense, but until we can find a true go-to scorer Dwight is still our best option on offense.

It's Stan's offensive scheme that isn't working. We don't try to get Dwight easy shots, all we do is have him post up. That's not going to work all the time, no matter how good offensively the player is. This is why we need a new coach, along with a real PG.

Bingo

Yeah, Stan's time is up in my eyes.

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

I just think this team is craving for someone else to create their own shot, honestly with Dwight here, get players that can defend the perimeter and create their shot, Ryan will lick his chops at this, someone that can seal in the defense. Ryan is not some scrub, but its a fact that Ryan needs Dwight just as Dwight needs Ryan, and that's only on Offense.

[magicman123]

Ryan Anderson continues to be a playoffs no-show

The question was whether Anderson finally would show up against the Pacers, preferably on Wednesday night.

The answer: Still missing.

In mysterious disappearances, Ryan is now listed with Ameila Earhart, D.B. Cooper, Jimmy Hoffa and Charlie Sheen's career.

Here's all you need to know about the Magic's Game 3 scoring plight: Their second-leading scorer — the league's 3-point champ — had zero points, one rebound and four fouls heading into the final period.

He finished with seven points, all meaningless as the Pacers led by fill-in-the-blank

Before the game, Anderson was upbeat in chatting with DeVos. He will be a restricted free agent after this summer. The Magic can match any offer sheet from another team.

Expect them to keep Anderson, even at a high cost , protecting an asset they can trade later if need be.

"This is your home," DeVos said. "We don't want you going anywhere."

"I love it here," Anderson said, nodding.

So far this series, his market value is tumbling

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... on-rockets

[craig01]

Who is Ryan Anderson?

[ChosenSavior]

Who is Ryan Anderson?

[G-Heel]

Like I said on the post above this one, Dwight is still our best option offensively until we can find a true go-to scorer. It's not Dwight's fault if his teammates aren't good defensive player.

That's on Otis.

Also, the reason our offense is so bad when we deferred to Dwight is because our other players, most of the time, just dump him the ball 10 feet away from the basket and expect him to go to work. None of them are good off-the-ball players, with exception of JJ. Jameer needs the ball to be effective, but isn't consistent nor a good passer. We desperately need a PG that can get Dwight easy baskets, our team will be so much better when that happens.

Well if that's the best position he can get, we can't dump it in when he's 5 feet from the basket....

Another problem with making him the offensive focus, is that D12 showed better passing skills earlier in the season and then regressed again. This is kinda like how he starts off taking jumpshots, then abandons it.

He also, like most of our team, goes into hero mode. When a defender is able to push him off the block, he still forces an awkward hook, which many times misses badly.

**

Bottom line - and something we agree on - is that we need an overhaul. We have different opinions about who should stay or go (Jameer for example, though my opinion is changing due to his injuries), but we need some serious retooling.

You know that isn't true. There are plenty of time when he established great position, but ignored by our passers. By the time they're able to bring the ball in, he already got pushed out or got called for 3 seconds violations.

You have to agree with this, whenever our players plan on passing the ball to Dwight, the defense already know. It's a lot easier to guard Dwight when you know 5 seconds ahead of what we want to do. They have time to adjust because our players stop by the three points line and take about 3 seconds before throwing it in.

Our offense is too predictable, so yes, we needs an overhaul. I completely agree.