The players don't decide the rotations, Mike Brown does. There is no excuse for playing Steve Blake the entire fourth quarter when you had Barnes and Ebanks available. Brown played right into Karl's trap trying to match up with his two PG lineup. What Brown needs to realize is Kobe can do just fine defending Miller and we gain no advantage on either end by going small in the backcourt. In fact, going small hurts us even more against Denver since that puts Kobe up against the 6'10 Gallo who is long enough to bother his shot.
The team came out flat(coaches fault just as much as the players), they fought back and had a great chance to win this game had Brown made the adjustment of benching Blake for the second half of the fourth quarter. Hopefully there is enough time between now and Sunday for him to watch his DVDs and see the error in his ways, otherwise we'll likely be heading back tied 2-2.
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semi-sentient wrote:I don't get all the blame for Mike Brown. We put ourselves in an early hole because we weren't playing defense/rebounding and the Nuggets were just absolutely on fire. I'd agree that Brown's rotations were trash in the 2nd half, but our FC lost this game for us in the first half.
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^ I'm with you guys, I just wanna know why Brown never went back to Ebanks. I know he struggled, but Blake was beyond garbage. Between Kobe, Sessions, and Pau there are enough facilitators so why not play Ebanks at the 2 instead of Blake?
Why does MB have such a hard-on for Stevie?
Why does MB have such a hard-on for Stevie?
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desertlakerfan wrote:The players don't decide the rotations, Mike Brown does. There is no excuse for playing Steve Blake the entire fourth quarter when you had Barnes and Ebanks available. Brown played right into Karl's trap trying to match up with his two PG lineup. What Brown needs to realize is Kobe can do just fine defending Miller and we gain no advantage on either end by going small in the backcourt. In fact, going small hurts us even more against Denver since that puts Kobe up against the 6'10 Gallo who is long enough to bother his shot.
The team came out flat(coaches fault just as much as the players), they fought back and had a great chance to win this game had Brown made the adjustment of benching Blake for the second half of the fourth quarter. Hopefully there is enough time between now and Sunday for him to watch his DVDs and see the error in his ways, otherwise we'll likely be heading back tied 2-2.
This is so absurd. Karl have been trying to make his small-ball work since the seattle days with no avail... I was there on the nuggets board cheering against OKC when the idiotic Karl put:
Fatton, Lawson and Chandler against okc's westb, harden and Durant, it was just a joke. IIRC correctly durant had his playoff career high in rebounds in some game and brown is allowing him to play his 2headed pg monster without punishment.
That I can't accept. as I said, i get he loves blake but just think about the match up FFS!.
With Andre and Ty together they have:
- A ultra fast shooting PG that creates baskets for others off dribble penetration
- A floor general PG that slows down the game and can create baskets in the HC and is a very good, top2 in the league, in the post...
HE ALLOWS KARL TO PLAY LIKE THE BEST COMBO IN THE NBA in terms of PGs.
FFS.
Not only that but BLAKE CAN'T GUARD MILLER IN THE POST. FML! Why are you playing a liability that contributes nothing in the Offensive end? You guys don't remember gasol having to help Blake on the post and miller creating easy buckets off ball movement to his players or making direct pass to faried to dunk/lay up?
PLUS playing blake also forces kobe to fight thru screens off the ball to stop gallinari because he's a threat.
If you put kobe on andre kobe can REST just like he does with Rondo and others PGs. Kobe is too tall for him to shoot his (barely jump) Jumper over bryant and on the post Miller wont get anything..
This is just so obvious it hurts my head.
What'll happen? Either kobe rapes miller on the OFF end and we start out-rebounding them or Karl will be smart (he probably wont because he loves his 2PGs) and put Afflalo on the floor and afflalo is shooting bricks all series long...
So it also plays to our advantage.
Btw, YES we "lost" the game in the first quarter . At some point kobe and Bynum were -29 and they fought back to -12 and -10 respectively and Blake who joined the team at the end of that run where Denver players were hitting everything ended up with the team "high" -17.
OTOH yes, mcgee was a game high +30 because bynum WAS WORTHLESS on the first half. I wont deny that. I'm his biggest critic, everyone here knows this but we'll have to deal with his "off" nights, what we can't do is letting our coach ruin our comeback.
We fought all the way back to 4 points and he ruined it all in the 4th quarter by playing Steve Blake.
I repeat: I know we lost the game in the first quarter due to "lazyness" BUT we still had a chance to win the game and Mike Brown failed again with his inability to adjust. If he continues to play into Karl's trap we'll lose this series. Mark my words.
Please brown I know you love blake just think about the match ups and don't allow Karl to play 2PGs without any consequences. PLEASE.
barnes is a very good rebounder and hustle guy and blake is not shooting any better than him so there's no excuse to play blake extended minutes.
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I made a mistake above, it was not durant...
In game two OKC had a 54 rebounds to Nuggets 31. +23 rebounds
and guess what: Raymond Fat-a-ton had a game "low" -20 on a 14points loss, not coincidently westB had a game high +21..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 00OKC.html
and that happened because scott brooks was not a MORON and did not play Maynor as a SG to "match" Nuggets small ball.
That **** never worked and Denver don't have a zone to make it work. it'll only work against stupid coaches like potato head.
We are the **** Lakers, we play bully ball, Mike Brown.
In game two OKC had a 54 rebounds to Nuggets 31. +23 rebounds
and guess what: Raymond Fat-a-ton had a game "low" -20 on a 14points loss, not coincidently westB had a game high +21..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 00OKC.html
and that happened because scott brooks was not a MORON and did not play Maynor as a SG to "match" Nuggets small ball.
That **** never worked and Denver don't have a zone to make it work. it'll only work against stupid coaches like potato head.
We are the **** Lakers, we play bully ball, Mike Brown.
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I didn't watch the whole game but did Bynum get into an argument with Barnes last night? Thats what my friend was telling me but I was hoping you guys could tell me what happened.
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He did a mini hook shot in the lane that was "blocked" (actually a goal tend) by McGee and instead of finishing the play, Bynum turned and literally erupted at the official as the play continued on around him. Sessions hit a shot and as he ran back on defense, Kobe tried to calm him down. Something happened on defense that play stopped and a time out was called and Bynum went off again, making a bee line to the officials, but Kobe and Barnes stepped in his way. I assume that is what your friend was talking about. Bynum probably wasn't happy that they were stopping his progress.
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desertlakerfan wrote:The team came out flat(coaches fault just as much as the players)
Wut? If the players came out flat in the first half, then it's on the players for not being focused. Mike Brown's rotations in the 4th didn't help, but the game was lost when Denver took a 20 point lead. There is nothing a coach can do when the players decide to play with no effort.
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Gek wrote:He did a mini hook shot in the lane that was "blocked" (actually a goal tend) by McGee and instead of finishing the play, Bynum turned and literally erupted at the official as the play continued on around him. Sessions hit a shot and as he ran back on defense, Kobe tried to calm him down. Something happened on defense that play stopped and a time out was called and Bynum went off again, making a bee line to the officials, but Kobe and Barnes stepped in his way. I assume that is what your friend was talking about. Bynum probably wasn't happy that they were stopping his progress.
Thanks GeK. Pretty sure this is what my friend was talking about. I wish Drew would just cut these crazy antics.