Official NBA Playoffs Thread

Dat2U · Post #142 » by **Dat2U** » Wed May 9, 2012 4:52 am

Oh wow, McGee got dunked by Kobe... He must suck.

And he can't shut down Bynum either... He can't play for a winning team.

I think Javale is eventually going to make folks eat their words.

JWizmentality · Post #143 » by **JWizmentality** » Wed May 9, 2012 4:59 am

Add McGee to that long list young big men turned superstar once ditched by this org. Sorry nate, McGee looks like he's putting it together under a competent coach and staff...sigh.

DallasShalDune · Post #144 » by **DallasShalDune** » Wed May 9, 2012 5:07 am

If we land Anthony Davis, all is moot.

Nene, Book, and Sera are a better fit with the thin center than McGee, Book, and Sara.

I'm happy McGee and Young are playing well, though.

willbcocks · Post #145 » by **willbcocks** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:44 am

McGee's played well very offensively and on the boards in 2 of 5 playoff games coming off the bench (I've not been impressed by his defense) and only having lob plays run for him. He's probably helped move himself towards getting the kind of contract we were dreading to give him or is even more likely to take the qualifying offer if he doesn't get that offer.

Meanwhile we finished the season on a hot streak and lockerroom chemistry improved tenfold. Why should we be feeling remorse about the trade again?

Though I hate feeding his voracious appetite for "sharing" his successful predictions, I think CCJ hit the nail on the head with McGee: he's a great high energy backup and he can score in that role. The role he is playing with the Nuggets is perfect for him, though I wonder how that'll work with him and Faried (as Faried was on the bench for most of the 4th quarter in game 5).

In the end, of the two options I would prefer to pay 29 year old Nene 13 a year to be a vet in the lockerroom and our starting center than pay McGee 10mil+ per year to be a backup big in a lockerroom lacking leadership. If we end up regretting anything about the trade, I think it will be not taking option 3, letting McGee walk, and that would be contingent on a Nene injury or a dramatic decline in his play.

closg00 · Post #146 » by **closg00** » Wed May 9, 2012 10:17 am

willbcocks wrote:McGee's played well very offensively and on the boards in 2 of 5 playoff games coming off the bench (I've not been impressed by his defense) and only having lob plays run for him. He's probably helped move himself towards getting the kind of contract we were dreading to give him or is even more likely to take the qualifying offer if he doesn't get that offer.

Meanwhile we finished the season on a hot streak and lockerroom chemistry improved tenfold. Why should we be feeling remorse about the trade again?

Though I hate feeding his voracious appetite for "sharing" his successful predictions, I think CCJ hit the nail on the head with McGee: he's a great high energy backup and he can score in that role. The role he is playing with the Nuggets is perfect for him, though I wonder how that'll work with him and Faried (as Faried was on the bench for most of the 4th quarter in game 5).

In the end, of the two options I would prefer to pay 29 year old Nene 13 a year to be a vet in the lockerroom and our starting center than pay McGee 10mil+ per year to be a backup big in a lockerroom lacking leadership. If we end up regretting anything about the trade, I think it will be not taking option 3, letting McGee walk, and that would be contingent on a Nene injury or a dramatic decline in his play.

Why begrudge someone for by-far calling better shots then the people getting paid millions to do-so?

willbcocks · Post #147 » by **willbcocks** » Wed May 9, 2012 10:23 am

I did no such thing. In the past, I've begrudged him for three things: 1) bragging; 2) making tons of predictions but mainly talking about his successful ones; 3) spamming the board with these comments.

I give CCJ a lot of credit where he does seem to hit the mark more than most: picks drafted outside the lottery. He's my go-to-source when discussing such picks outside the board.

DaRealHibachi · Post #148 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Wed May 9, 2012 11:11 am

It's like you guys haven't seen this all before...

McGee plays well for a while, but then disappears for about the same time... McGee is who he is; a fringe starter who's inconsistent and teases allot... EG was right to not commit a large amount of money to that; let some other GM deal with that headache...

And of course he playing "better" right now; his weaknesses are masked playing against the Lakers, his good plays get more exposure, and he doesn't play for the laughing stock of the NBA anymore...

tontoz · Post #149 » by **tontoz** » Wed May 9, 2012 11:37 am

McGee isn't doing anything he didn't do here. When he starts playing smart/tough basketball then people can start saying he is proving people wrong.

Funny how people gloat when he has a +/- of +30 but ignore the same stat when he has the worst +/- on the team, as he did last night and during the season.

McGee is a soft, low IQ player. That didn't suddenly change because of a couple of good games. The fact that the guy who was playing behind him (Seraphin) isn't soft or low IQ makes letting Mcgee go an easy call.

FAH1223 · Post #150 » by **FAH1223** » Wed May 9, 2012 12:28 pm

Dat2U wrote:Oh wow, McGee got dunked by Kobe... He must suck.

And he can't shut down Bynum either... He can't play for a winning team.

I think Javale is eventually going to make folks eat their words.

The fact he tried to block Kobe by going thru the basket is what I'm getting at

And getting dunked on by old Kobe isn't good

JaVale had 21 and 12 and played better than Bynum so good for him. The Nuggets will win this series now

closg00 · Post #151 » by **closg00** » Wed May 9, 2012 12:45 pm

1. McGee Alters Lakers' Postseason Plans
By J.A. Adande

LOS ANGELES -- Anyone looking for a culprit in the Los Angeles Lakers' stunningly inept effort to close out the Denver Nuggets in Game 5 should not use Andrew Bynum's "easy" comment and its motivational impact on the Nuggets.

"Easy" is the wrong word. Try the synonym, "simple," instead, which made an appearance in a comment by George Karl over the weekend.

"Sometimes the simplest moves give you the biggest returns," Karl said.

That could be applied to the Nuggets' three-way trade with the Washington Wizards and Los Angeles Clippers just before the deadline in March, when Nene went to Washington, Nick Young was sent to the Clippers and JaVale McGee came to Denver. It was supposed to be a matter of the Nuggets getting out from Nene's contract, the Wizards clearing more immature players from their locker room and the Clippers getting another guard to replace the injured Chauncey Billups.

No one could have guessed that it would be the midseason deal that has made the biggest impact on the playoffs so far. Think about it. There isn't a player who switched teams this season who has played a larger role in winning two playoff games than McGee has in Game 3 and now in Denver's 102-99 victory Game 5 against the Lakers.

As Lakers coach Mike Brown put it, simply, "Both times McGee's had a big game, they've won."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime

tontoz · Post #152 » by **tontoz** » Wed May 9, 2012 1:17 pm

In other news Bynum is averaging 18 ppg shooting 60% for the series.

tontoz · Post #153 » by **tontoz** » Wed May 9, 2012 1:22 pm

closg00 wrote:
1. McGee Alters Lakers' Postseason Plans
By J.A. Adande

No one could have guessed that it would be the midseason deal that has made the biggest impact on the playoffs so far. Think about it. There isn't a player who switched teams this season who has played a larger role in winning two playoff games than McGee has in Game 3 and now in Denver's 102-99 victory Game 5 against the Lakers.

As Lakers coach Mike Brown put it, simply, "Both times McGee's had a big game, they've won."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime

Yeah McGee has had a bigger impact than Chris Paul for sure. :roll:

FAH1223 · Post #154 » by **FAH1223** » Wed May 9, 2012 5:22 pm

CP3 wasn't traded midseason

go'stags · Post #155 » by **go'stags** » Wed May 9, 2012 5:53 pm

He has looked very, very good in a couple of games. He altered a lot of shots last night as well.

I am afraid that he becomes another guy who turns into an all-star after he leaves here. Sign him this off-season?

dobrojim · Post #156 » by **dobrojim** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:23 pm

Dat2U wrote:Oh wow, McGee got dunked by Kobe... He must suck.

And he can't shut down Bynum either... He can't play for a winning team.

I think Javale is eventually going to make folks eat their words.

We've known for a long time that McGee is capable of intervals of
outstanding play. That was never the issue.

I stand by my belief that keeping him would have been an even
bigger mistake than letting him go.

dobrojim · Post #157 » by **dobrojim** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:25 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Oh wow, McGee got dunked by Kobe... He must suck.

And he can't shut down Bynum either... He can't play for a winning team.

I think Javale is eventually going to make folks eat their words.

The fact he tried to block Kobe by going thru the basket is what I'm getting at

And getting dunked on by old Kobe isn't good

JaVale had 21 and 12 and played better than Bynum so good for him. The Nuggets will win this series now

I hope so but I'm not convinced McGee's outstanding game last night notwithstanding.

FAH1223 · Post #158 » by **FAH1223** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:57 pm

Andrew Bynum is a headcase... The Nuggets need to just run and run to take him out of the game even if that means they get blocked every now and then.

They're going to win this series. Kobe is too old and inefficient to carry the Lakers to victory... and Gasol isn't even putting up close to his career average in points during this series. Nuggets got this.

Nigel Tufnel · Post #159 » by **Nigel Tufnel** » Wed May 9, 2012 8:17 pm

Denver or someone else is going to pay McGee big bucks this off season based on his playoff performance, and regret it by January 2013.

pancakes3 · Post #160 » by **pancakes3** » Wed May 9, 2012 10:24 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Andrew Bynum is a headcase... The Nuggets need to just run and run to take him out of the game even if that means they get blocked every now and then.

They're going to win this series. Kobe is too old and inefficient to carry the Lakers to victory... and Gasol isn't even putting up close to his career average in points during this series. Nuggets got this.

I think the 2nd part of your gameplan is more important. Single-cover Kobe and take Bynum out of the offensive game. Then Bynum will pout and shut down offensively, and boom goes the dynamite.

However, I think it's too little too late. The Lakes will win this series, but a solid game plan for the Thunder (and they know that)