Discussing Other Teams' Moves

closg00 · Post #1181 » by **closg00** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:03 am

So Memphis apparently catches the Cavs napping and signs Lester Hudson for the rest of the season, why? Perhaps Gilbert will be released?

verbal8 · Post #1182 » by **verbal8** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:15 pm

closg00 wrote:So Memphis apparently catches the Cavs napping and signs Lester Hudson for the rest of the season, why? Perhaps Gilbert will be released?

Apparently Arenas has an injury.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... ahoo_feeds

Hudson, 27, will be eligible for the postseason because he had not been waived. He’ll be added as insurance in the backcourt as veteran sharpshooter Gilbert Arenas recovers from an injury on his shooting hand.

The grizzlies are his hometown team and they will be in the play-offs.

closg00 · Post #1183 » by **closg00** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:31 pm

verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:So Memphis apparently catches the Cavs napping and signs Lester Hudson for the rest of the season, why? Perhaps Gilbert will be released?

Apparently Arenas has an injury.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... ahoo_feeds

Hudson, 27, will be eligible for the postseason because he had not been waived. He’ll be added as insurance in the backcourt as veteran sharpshooter Gilbert Arenas recovers from an injury on his shooting hand.

The grizzlies are his hometown team and they will be in the play-offs.

Thanks Verbal

BanndNDC · Post #1184 » by **BanndNDC** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:12 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
dobrojim wrote:what's the story with Lamar Odom in Dallas?

I was standing in the checkout line at the grocery store yesterday. If the cover of some gossip mag--I don't even recall the title-- is to be believed, Lamar got caught with a naked woman. Not a bad thing, unless it is a woman you're not married to, as is the cover implies.

Odom was already supposedly struggling with his basketball commitment and letdown after the trade from the Lakers. Add to that he was a passenger in a traffic accident that involved a fatality. If he's dealing with some issues on the home front as well that spells bad season.

Dallas is going nowhere, regardless, since Tyson Chandler left them in free agency. He was the second most valuable player on that team.

i too was stuck in the checkout line and another gossip mag added some more (lip)gloss. evidently he is stuck in a sexless marriage, a social outcast among his peers because of the kris humprhies situation, and beaten down by his controlling in laws who are unhappy with the move from LA.

dobrojim · Post #1185 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:41 pm

a sexless marriage to a smokin hot babe, things besides looks set aside for the moment,
has got to suck. Then again he is an NBA player so I suspect he has lots to choose from.

closg00 · Post #1186 » by **closg00** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:13 pm

Silas fired from the Cats, shocker.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketba ... 54645842/1

verbal8 · Post #1187 » by **verbal8** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:37 pm

closg00 wrote:Silas fired from the Cats, shocker.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketba ... 54645842/1

A good coach could have 9 or 10 games with that squad. Not saying he wasn't part of the problem, but a lack of talent was the major problem with that team.

fishercob · Post #1188 » by **fishercob** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:13 pm

An interesting nugget from Wizenheimer over on the trade board:

Chad Buchannen (Blazer interim GM) was just on Courtside and explicitly said the Blazers are looking to deal draft picks for established players. I'm confident he wouldn't be saying that if it wasn't what Paul Allen wanted

Allen wants the Blazers to get better now....win now, not 2-3 years in the future. I'm guessing he's motivated by his recent battle with cancer.

Could have some draft implications for sure.

Assuming Portland doesn't move up, some names I could see them considering and having a shot at include Josh Smith, Gortat, Kevin Martin, Gay, etc. I imagine they'll offer Deron Williams the max too.

Post #1189 » by **nate33** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:23 pm

fishercob wrote:An interesting nugget from Wizenheimer over on the trade board:

Chad Buchannen (Blazer interim GM) was just on Courtside and explicitly said the Blazers are looking to deal draft picks for established players. I'm confident he wouldn't be saying that if it wasn't what Paul Allen wanted

Allen wants the Blazers to get better now....win now, not 2-3 years in the future. I'm guessing he's motivated by his recent battle with cancer.

Could have some draft implications for sure.

Assuming Portland doesn't move up, some names I could see them considering and having a shot at include Josh Smith, Gortat, Kevin Martin, Gay, etc. I imagine they'll offer Deron Williams the max too.

I wonder if Portland would trade the #11 pick for Booker and our #32? Booker is an established rotation-caliber player who won't eat cap space. This allows Portland to pursue big name free agents with their cap room.

fishercob · Post #1190 » by **fishercob** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:30 pm

11 doesn't strike me as a spot in the draft where we'd be excited to be picking. It's too high for the YODA guys like Crowder and Denmon, but we'd have to be pretty lucky for someone like Zeller to drop that far.

Post #1191 » by **montestewart** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:34 pm

fishercob wrote:11 doesn't strike me as a spot in the draft where we'd be excited to be picking. It's too high for the YODA guys like Crowder and Denmon, but we'd have to be pretty lucky for someone like Zeller to drop that far.

I was thinking similar. If we lucked out and got Davis, hard to see what wing would be the best choice here. Maybe trade back down a little?

closg00 · Post #1192 » by **closg00** » Tue May 1, 2012 8:49 pm

Portland has James Johnson in the Booker role, 11th for Booker & our 32nd would be a reach IMO, but I'd certainly do that trade.

truwizfan4evr · Post #1193 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Tue May 8, 2012 4:29 pm

closg00 wrote:Portland has James Johnson in the Booker role, 11th for Booker & our 32nd would be a reach IMO, but I'd certainly do that trade.

Would you take Perry Jones at number 11 pick?

verbal8 · Post #1194 » by **verbal8** » Thu May 10, 2012 4:12 pm

Would Nash to the Knicks mean that they let Lin go as a Free Agent?

The Knicks don't have any really trade assets, so I can't see the Knicks getting him in a S&T.

closg00 · Post #1195 » by **closg00** » Thu May 10, 2012 8:12 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:
closg00 wrote:Portland has James Johnson in the Booker role, 11th for Booker & our 32nd would be a reach IMO, but I'd certainly do that trade.

Would you take Perry Jones at number 11 pick?

No, but I would take Zeller or the other Jones, Terrence. A more realistic scenario would be to trade Booker for a late 1st rounder/early 2nd rounder, I'd do that.

Nivek · Post #1196 » by **Nivek** » Thu May 10, 2012 8:28 pm

verbal8 wrote:Would Nash to the Knicks mean that they let Lin go as a Free Agent?

The Knicks don't have any really trade assets, so I can't see the Knicks getting him in a S&T.

I'm not sure Nash is the right guy for the Knicks. He's a guy who runs the offense, but Carmelo wants to be that guy. Nash could play off the ball, but that's not working to his strengths. He's at his best when he's dribbling around, distorting the defense and finding an open finisher or shooter.

If I was advising Nash, I'd tell him to go to Orlando. They already have the shooters, and they have a center (assuming Dwight wants to be in Orlando this week). That's a team that could get a lot better all of a sudden with Nash.

If I was advising Lin, I'd tell him to sign wherever Nash does. Let him learn from Nash for a year or two and then slide right into that position when Nash finally retires.

fishercob · Post #1197 » by **fishercob** » Thu May 10, 2012 8:48 pm

That assumes that Nash is willing to take the MLE -- essentially below market value.

I'd advise him to go to Indiana. They were 7th in offense and 9th in D this year and have a huge hole at point guard. Nash makes them an elite offensive team and I don't think he makes their defense appreciably worse. They have the room to re-up Hibbert and pay Nash what he's worth -- close to $10M.

Orlando certainly makes sense, but I have no confidence in Howard doing what he says he'll do. I suppose if he signed a long term extension I'd be fine with it, but I'm not sure he can do so (can he?).

willbcocks · Post #1198 » by **willbcocks** » Fri May 11, 2012 1:22 am

verbal8 wrote:Would Nash to the Knicks mean that they let Lin go as a Free Agent?

The Knicks don't have any really trade assets, so I can't see the Knicks getting him in a S&T.

This is correct, the Knicks need to use their MLE to sign Lin, so if they use it on Nash, they can't offer it to him.

verbal8 · Post #1199 » by **verbal8** » Fri May 11, 2012 2:30 am

fishercob wrote:That assumes that Nash is willing to take the MLE -- essentially below market value.

I'd advise him to go to Indiana. They were 7th in offense and 9th in D this year and have a huge hole at point guard. Nash makes them an elite offensive team and I don't think he makes their defense appreciably worse. They have the room to re-up Hibbert and pay Nash what he's worth -- close to $10M.

Orlando certainly makes sense, but I have no confidence in Howard doing what he says he'll do. I suppose if he signed a long term extension I'd be fine with it, but I'm not sure he can do so (can he?).

I think it really depends on what Nash thinks his window is. If it is one year, then Orlando makes a lot of sense. The Heat would of course love to add him, but they or the Lakers would be a waste of his PG skills.

If it is a 3 year window, then an team that will grow into an elite one like Indiana is the best choice.

jimij · Post #1200 » by **jimij** » Fri May 11, 2012 11:42 am

I could see Nash fitting in really well in Utah as well. He would be phenomenal setting up those big men. They would just need to add a bit more perimeter shooting and they (along with Indiana) could be and up and coming team that he could really help.

I also wouldn't mind seeing him go to Portland. Felton was a disaster and with Aldridge, Batum and Matthews plus this years picks they could be a nice landing spot for him as well.