Drake_02 wrote:What I said before was that he would win 35 games. If he can't win 35 games with the Canucks, how is he going to win 35 games with the Leafs? The Canucks are a way better team than the Leafs. Even with Luongo, this team isn't a cup contender. This team only turns into a Playoff team.
He didn’t win 35 games, he won 31 out of his 55 starts, that’s pretty damn good. If he plays in 5 more games you don’t think he gets to your supposed 35 win benchmark? Seriously, what is this arbitrary benchmark you’ve made? Obviously Vancouver is a better team than us but that doesn’t mean he loses value in being part of it. His last 6 seasons, 47 wins, 35 wins, 33 wins, 40 wins, 38 wins, and 31 wins….so where exactly is this call out to slow down.
Toronto is not Vancouver so he might not win a lot of games, but who knows, other than this tailspin this team was still finding ways to win, add an elite goalie and who knows where he and the team go.
Drake_02 wrote:No, he probably doesn't have 5 years left. He probably has 3 years left. Im basing that on how the average NHL goalie performs when they are 35+. Most 35+ goalies are backups and not a teams number one goalie.
Where is this 3 year mark, many elite goalies have played past the 35 wins. There’s a 40 year old goalie helping a team reach the conference finals. And Luongo was in the SC finals just last year.
Tim Thomas never won more than 35 games and led a team to the finals at the age of 37, it’s not unreasonable to think Luongo’s got a good 5 years left in him if not more. Where as you’re just making up a number of 3 years left with no basis.
Drake_02 wrote:Im not dismissing the possibility of getting Luongo, but with the Options this year, Like Bernier,Vokun,Schneider,Clemmensen, why get Luongo? I think you think that Luongo will come pretty cheap. I think it will take a first rounder/decent player and a decent prospect. Like you have stated, Luongo is a great goaltender, so why would he come at such a cheap price. You have said that you dont mind the cap hit, and there is plenty of years left on that contract, but still, a great goaltender is a great goaltender.
Bernier and Schneider will cost more but are younger – Def worth a look. Clemmensen and Vokoun are nothing but stop gaps and don’t do the kind of change necessary. Luongo may not come cheap or he may. You’ve made up the price tag but there’s nothing to base that on yet. It’s gonna be difficult for Vancouver to move him because of the length and money, and what other teams cap situations are. Plus teams know Vancouver is possibly looking at change, so assets may be tougher for them to demand. We shall see. Plus you never addressed my point about this coming CBA and the one after. He could very well be amnestied out of the next CBA if that’s in there. And the cap keeps going up making his hit less and less of an issue over time.
Drake_02 wrote:Luongo gets a unfair amount of flack because he hasn't proved anything. Great, you had a great regular season, but that doesn't matter when your in the playoffs. Look at boston, and now the Rangers could be eliminated. It doesn't matter what you have done in your career, it matters if you won the cup or not, and Luongo has not won the cup.
There’s no guarantee no matter what goalie you have. But I’d rather take a chance with one of the better ones in the league than going with an unproven one thinking we’re catching lightning in a bottle. Isn’t that what we tried this year and look what happened.
Drake_02 wrote:My solution is too to get a mentor for Reimer. BB has said this kid is the real deal, so I think with the one year of veteran presence, Reimer will develop and then in 2013-2014 season, all we need to do is look for a backup.
Your solution is flawed and Reimer has proven less than Luongo yet you’d go with him and some vet help and not take a chance on a proven goalie that can get you to the playoffs as opposed to one that has yet to make the playoffs.
I’m not saying go full court on Luongo, but it’s foolish to me to say we’ll pass, especially with the reasons you’ve listed so far.