Question for Nets fans

magic111 · Post #1 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 12:16 am

Hey guys, Magic fan here. I am totally shocked that people still say NETS will get D12 if he asks for another trade. But, I just don't see how you guys can get him when your ONLY asset is a FA. You would have to get the #1 pick to even have a chance.

So I wanted to get your take on this. Seems like people don't understand where NETS stand as of today with their assets.

JoseRizal · Post #2 » by **JoseRizal** » Sun May 13, 2012 12:21 am

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Jersey Generals · Post #3 » by **Jersey Generals** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:21 am

The Knicks didn't have the assets to get Carmelo Anthony, either.

But they did.

magic111 · Post #4 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:47 am

Jersey Generals wrote:The Knicks didn't have the assets to get Carmelo Anthony, either.

But they did.

You serious??? They gave away alot of good pieces for him and they were UNDER CONTRACT. Wilson, Felton, Galanari and picks. NETS have nothing like that. And all their players are FA. BIG DIFF! NETS NEED # 1 pick imo and that is the only way, that's why I just don't get it.

jeff1624 · Post #5 » by **jeff1624** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:50 am

magic111 wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:The Knicks didn't have the assets to get Carmelo Anthony, either.

But they did.

You serious??? They gave away alot of good pieces for him and they were UNDER CONTRACT. Wilson, Felton, Galanari and picks. NETS have nothing like that. And all their players are FA. BIG DIFF! NETS NEED # 1 pick imo and that is the only way, that's why I just don't get it.

Gallinari was the only great piece the Nuggets acquired.

-What picks did the Knicks have?
-Both Mozgov and Felton are hot trash
-And Chandler was a FA bound to get overpaid in 4 months

therealbig3 · Post #6 » by **therealbig3** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:53 am

magic111 wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:The Knicks didn't have the assets to get Carmelo Anthony, either.

But they did.

You serious??? They gave away alot of good pieces for him and they were UNDER CONTRACT. Wilson, Felton, Galanari and picks. NETS have nothing like that. And all their players are FA. BIG DIFF! NETS NEED # 1 pick imo and that is the only way, that's why I just don't get it.

Not the #1 pick, just a top 3 pick.

If Howard will only agree to an extension with the Nets, then that forces Orlando's hand. There won't really be anyone who would be willing to part with assets just to get 1 year of Dwight...of course there are teams that will say they want to rent him, but nobody ever does it.

Orlando can't afford to decline a trade with the Nets just because they're getting the #3 pick instead of the #1 pick...the #3 pick is still probably more valuable than 90% of assets that other teams will offer.

And if a deal gets done with Wallace, we can trade him and package Lopez somehow, so that our deal would be a signed Wallace, a signed Lopez, and a top 3 pick. That's actually a pretty good deal imo, especially since Dwight's value has gone down big time, and that nobody else would really be offering you that much.

magic111 · Post #7 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:54 am

NETS players are FA...PERIOD! Felton was not trash when he played for the Knicks, check the stats and Chandler did not get paid, over the top money, look at that too. Wilsion avg 16 when he got traded and Felton was putting up 16 or so as well. They also got 4 picks 1st and 2nd i believe.

You would need to get a top 2 pick and ALOT more. It is not going to be as easy as it was at trade deadline.

magic111 · Post #8 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:56 am

therealbig3 wrote:
magic111 wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:The Knicks didn't have the assets to get Carmelo Anthony, either.

But they did.

You serious??? They gave away alot of good pieces for him and they were UNDER CONTRACT. Wilson, Felton, Galanari and picks. NETS have nothing like that. And all their players are FA. BIG DIFF! NETS NEED # 1 pick imo and that is the only way, that's why I just don't get it.

Not the #1 pick, just a top 3 pick.

If Howard will only agree to an extension with the Nets, then that forces Orlando's hand. There won't really be anyone who would be willing to part with assets just to get 1 year of Dwight...of course there are teams that will say they want to rent him, but nobody ever does it.

Orlando can't afford to decline a trade with the Nets just because they're getting the #3 pick instead of the #1 pick...the #3 pick is still probably more valuable than 90% of assets that other teams will offer.

And if a deal gets done with Wallace, we can trade him and package Lopez somehow, so that our deal would be a signed Wallace, a signed Lopez, and a top 3 pick. That's actually a pretty good deal imo, especially since Dwight's value has gone down big time, and that nobody else would really be offering you that much.

Under the new CBA you can't trade a signed FA till trade deadline. What I am saying is EVERYONE is saying if D12 wants out it will be NETS, but NETS still need ALOT of things to go their way for that to happen, like the draft. Unless, NBA is going to give the NETS a top pick and screw the draft.

magic111 · Post #9 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 1:59 am

Smith is going to be fired and the new GM won't want a 30 yr old Wallace on a new contract. All im saying is it is going to be tough.But, everyone is like, hey, D12 will be a NET if he wants out, but to realize how hard it will be for that to happen.

jeff1624 · Post #10 » by **jeff1624** » Sun May 13, 2012 2:01 am

Isn't Dwight a FA in 2013? The Magic don't have many options...

magic111 · Post #11 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 2:05 am

And another thing, Dwight can't be traded to the NETS at the draft, because your players are FA, so even if you get a top 3 pick, it might not get it done. See what I am getting at, when I say it is a up hill battle for the NETS now then it was in March?

And even if NETS get a top 3 pick, since Dwight would not be traded at the draft, you could not trade that draft player till the deadline as well. So it will be hard.

jeff1624 · Post #12 » by **jeff1624** » Sun May 13, 2012 2:07 am

magic111 wrote:And another thing, Dwight can't be traded to the NETS at the draft, because your players are FA, so even if you get a top 3 pick, it might not get it done. See what I am getting at, when I say it is a up hill battle for the NETS now then it was in March?

Fine, good luck finding a team that will want to trade for Dwight after he refuses to sign an extension.

magic111 · Post #13 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 2:10 am

A top 3 pick alone won't get it done. If dwight wants out, which is still up in the air. Magic will not trade Howard for a top 3 pick this summer to the NETS, not trying to be negative, but those are the fact that Nets face

Shaheen · Post #14 » by **Shaheen** » Sun May 13, 2012 2:32 am

Cause he wants to be here. He can just tell the Magic he's leaving again. They're not gonna want to go through another drama.

If he doesn't agree to the extension he won't go to that team.

magic111 · Post #15 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 2:54 am

Shaheen wrote:Cause he wants to be here. He can just tell the Magic he's leaving again. They're not gonna want to go through another drama.

If he doesn't agree to the extension he won't go to that team.

Ok, lets say you don't get a top 3 pick, then what? Your players are FA, understand that, you can't get him this summer. And I know ORL won't want to go through it again. And they are not going to trade Dwight for just a top 3 pick. Remember we could have sent him to the Lakers for bynum at the deadline. Lakers were willing to take him on as a rental. The thing to remember here and this is why i don't get it. NETS PLAYERS ARE FA. And can't be traded once they sign a deal till trade deadline. If dwight was to want out again, it is hard for the NETS to pull it off over the summer and I know ORL will not want to go into the season with out ext, they will trade him to another team. Remember teams were willing to rent him this yr too

VCRJKidd15 · Post #16 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Sun May 13, 2012 3:01 am

So if a team rents Dwight(for some dumb reason) he's still going to be a Free Agent in 2013 I don't get what you're arguing about.

magic111 · Post #17 » by **magic111** » Sun May 13, 2012 3:04 am

Everyone is saying Dwight will start the season with the NETS if he wants out, but I just don't see how, with the NETS players being FA and the fact that dwight won't be traded for just a pick, that if NETS get a top 3 pick, alone. That is what I am trying to get. How can he be traded to the NETS over the summer, when they NETS really can't do it.

Jersey Generals · Post #18 » by **Jersey Generals** » Sun May 13, 2012 3:15 am

If Wallace signs an extension, therefore picking up his option, or just picks up his option, he can be traded immediately. Brook can be signed and traded immediately during the summer. In addition to the cap space the Nets will have, assuming they renounce Kris Humprhies.

Therefore, you trade Wallace, Brooks and pick to whoever, whoever trades whatever to the Magic, and the Magic trade Howard. Folliowing up that trade, the Nets trade Lopez to whoever or the Magic, and the Magic trade whoever to the Nets. Really, not that hard. Have a good night.

If you want to argue that the Magic will not accept those players, fine, do it in the other thread.

VCRJKidd15 · Post #19 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Sun May 13, 2012 3:24 am

magic111 wrote:Everyone is saying Dwight will start the season with the NETS if he wants out, but I just don't see how, with the NETS players being FA and the fact that dwight won't be traded for just a pick, that if NETS get a top 3 pick, alone. That is what I am trying to get. How can he be traded to the NETS over the summer, when they NETS really can't do it.

I see what you're saying now but everyone is saying he will be traded to the Nets if they obviously have all the players signed they don't have to do it on Draft day they can do it in september if they wanted too

VCRJKidd15 · Post #20 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Sun May 13, 2012 3:29 am

everyone can move along OP is a confirmed moron

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