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Where Bosh ranks at his position

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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#41 » by arifgokcen » Thu May 10, 2012 1:24 pm

Before coming to miami,he was averaging 24-10.There is only one player who averages those numbers today love and defensively bosh is much better and underrated.He would probably be averaging around 25-26ppg and 10rpg if he stayed in toronto.We would probably call him top 10 player and #2 pf in the league.Put any other player next to lebron and wade their numbers is gonna look worse.Even their numbers are horrible compared to previous seasons.Wade can average 27-5-7 and lebron would probably average around 30-8-9 if they were playing without another superstar.Thats the sacrifice they made.
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#42 » by countrybama24 » Fri May 11, 2012 1:11 pm

LeMVP wrote:Are we talking about Bosh 1st option or actual Bosh 3rd option? As 3rd option he is way behind the pack. He is often completely invisible, rebounds bad and is just a non-factor. Averaging less then 8 rebounds in a team without real center (or with Joel who can't rebound) is just bad. And he should feel bad.


We are along about him as a third option. Fit matters.

Pimpwerx wrote:Love? Hell yeah, but not KG and Dirk. Both are about to retire. We have a core of Bosh+Bron that could beast for years after Wade starts to decline. PEACE.


But where would he rank if age didnt matter? Ie if he was on a one year contract, and you could replace him with any current PF also on a one year contract? So obviously you do t take KG for one year at his age oer 4 more years of bosh, but do you take one year of KG over one year of Bosh this year?
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#43 » by countrybama24 » Fri May 11, 2012 1:15 pm

Also, it seems the perfect 4 for this team would just defend, rebound and be able to hit the midrange as a complementary hustle player, and finish lebron / wade dishes inside. Also maybe be able to play the 5. No love for Al Horford?

It also seems like in theory bosh is a great fit because of the midrange, but the eye test tells me that lebron/bosh pick and roll isn't nearly as effective as it should be in theory. Maybe someone can post some stats to tell me I wrong, but it seems like bosh misses a far too many open catch and shoot opportunities than his skill set implies he should. It seems likes he a much better shooter holding the ball in the triple threat than catch and shoot.
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#44 » by twinthunder3 » Fri May 11, 2012 7:58 pm

It has since dropped after joining the Heat.
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#45 » by This IsMy House » Fri May 11, 2012 8:49 pm

indiegrind wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:
indiegrind wrote:homerism at its finest.

Actually thinking Griffin is better than Bosh is stupid at its finest. Not even close.



i dont think there is a team in the league that would take bosh over griffin.


Just let me know when Blake has the smooth shot, and good defense Bosh has and I'll consider answering your completely nonsensical question.

When Blake isn't flopping, crying, or dunking hes worthless.
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#46 » by NoComparison » Sun May 13, 2012 5:30 am

Gasol just had 23 points, 17 rebounds (11 offensive boards). He didnt have that many opportunities to score. He got 75% of them from offensive rebounds.

When are we gonna get that from Chris Bosh? The guy who consistently gives you 2nd chance points and that inside prescence? Theres just no excuse grabbing 7 rebounds a game! They're the same height and theyre both soft. But Gasol sure gets it, he gets you rebounds and second chance points.

I need to see this from Bosh. Bosh is a good scorer, but we already have LBJ and Wade, hes not gonna get that many opportunities to score. So we need him to rebound the ball on offensive side.
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#47 » by Chaos Engine » Sun May 13, 2012 8:22 am

NoComparison wrote:Gasol just had 23 points, 17 rebounds (11 offensive boards). He didnt have that many opportunities to score. He got 75% of them from offensive rebounds.

When are we gonna get that from Chris Bosh? The guy who consistently gives you 2nd chance points and that inside prescence? Theres just no excuse grabbing 7 rebounds a game! They're the same height and theyre both soft. But Gasol sure gets it, he gets you rebounds and second chance points.

I need to see this from Bosh. Bosh is a good scorer, but we already have LBJ and Wade, hes not gonna get that many opportunities to score. So we need him to rebound the ball on offensive side.

Gasol also just had a 3 point 3 rebound game and was probably going to get run out of town if he didn't respond well. And he didn't have Chandler guarding him, he had a much smaller Faried.
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Re: Where Bosh ranks at his position 

Post#48 » by Pimpwerx » Sun May 13, 2012 8:39 am

Pau is an inch taller than Bosh. That's no a big deal, though. He's definitely a better rebounder than Bosh. However, I'd still take the Boshtrich over anyone but Love and LMA right now. 3rd wheel Bosh is not the real Bosh. 1st or (preferably) 2nd option Bosh is a different beast. Reliable and aggressive. We saw what he did in his contract year. He's capable of putting up Top3 PF stats. That's why I rate him like I do. If we lose Bosh, we're gonna regret it big time. He's more-important to us than maybe even Glenn Rice was for us back in the 90's. I don't think that's an exaggeration when you think big picture, as in championship contention. PEACE.

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