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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1441 » by treiz » Tue May 1, 2012 11:14 pm

Sleepy wrote:Perhaps I was a bit harsh to Marin... his problem is his lack of athleticism and the fact that he doesn't play a lick of defense. He can only play on the wing, preferably with a very solid fullback behind him. Given that, he's decent and can cut thru slow defences and set up other players. Bremen has been playing a rather old fashioned 442 diamond for years, which left him without a place to start. He's no wide midfielder and certainly no No.10. Theo Walcott or SWP are comparisons I can see... expect something comparable.


If he becomes our version of Walcott, then I would be moderately happy with the transfer considering how cheap he was. But that's if he develops to become a wide midfielder as oppose to a winger. We already have the fullbacks to cover him, and really hope he becomes a better right sided player that we need.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1442 » by cgf » Wed May 2, 2012 12:44 am

I mean Marin did look deadly back when he had Oezil running the offense for Bremen and Marin could play really simple, run at defenders, fire away whenever he has space to get off his shot and launch in some crosses when he dribbles himself into trouble out wide. He could be a useful scorer off the bench when they have Mata out there to do all of the thinking and playmaking for him. *shrug*
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1443 » by Man of Steel » Wed May 2, 2012 12:59 am

Hazard's going to make a Premier League team very happy next season.

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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1444 » by 5DOM » Wed May 2, 2012 1:58 am

City vs United IMO
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1445 » by Sleepy » Wed May 2, 2012 7:00 am

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Sleepy wrote:Perhaps I was a bit harsh to Marin... his problem is his lack of athleticism and the fact that he doesn't play a lick of defense. He can only play on the wing, preferably with a very solid fullback behind him. Given that, he's decent and can cut thru slow defences and set up other players. Bremen has been playing a rather old fashioned 442 diamond for years, which left him without a place to start. He's no wide midfielder and certainly no No.10. Theo Walcott or SWP are comparisons I can see... expect something comparable.


If he becomes our version of Walcott, then I would be moderately happy with the transfer considering how cheap he was. But that's if he develops to become a wide midfielder as oppose to a winger. We already have the fullbacks to cover him, and really hope he becomes a better right sided player that we need.


If you want him in the midfield, you gotta wait a season for him to put on some muscles. Right now, he can't defend anything. He's listed at 170cm/64kg... people just run over him without looking back. Bremen tried to play as the wide midfielder in the diamond with Özil up front, which was entertaining, but a complete disaster on defense. Play him as a RW/LW in a 4-2-3-1 and he should be ok, if he's got Cole/Bosingwa and Essien/Mikel/Lampard defending around him.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1446 » by lukekarts » Wed May 2, 2012 8:21 am

Did I actually just read someone using 'turnovers' in football? Please, no...

As for Marin, I suspect he's coming in to replace Kalou/Malouda, who are out of contract in June. He's likely to be a part of our squad depth, rather than a key player.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1447 » by treiz » Wed May 2, 2012 1:57 pm

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If you want him in the midfield, you gotta wait a season for him to put on some muscles. Right now, he can't defend anything. He's listed at 170cm/64kg... people just run over him without looking back. Bremen tried to play as the wide midfielder in the diamond with Özil up front, which was entertaining, but a complete disaster on defense. Play him as a RW/LW in a 4-2-3-1 and he should be ok, if he's got Cole/Bosingwa and Essien/Mikel/Lampard defending around him.


I don't really mind his physical attributes when it comes, Walcott is 170cm/68kg and Lennon is even smaller at 165cm/63kg, and if there's one thing I really credit Walcott for is his defensive duties. Defending as a wide midfielder nowadays is all about positioning anyway, you just have to make sure your opposite number doesn't get his cross in, and with Cole or Ivanovic occupying the full back spots, that should help him a bit.

Well yeah, he would be playing as a RW as I don't see us reverting from a 3-man midfield any time soon, it's for games where we have to defend and we may switch to a 4-5-1 off the ball is what would I hope from him. Obviously he has the talent and everybody's saying that he's a good attacking player, especially with a playmaker like Mata where his main job is to run at people, defend that side and pick out a pass if need be.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1448 » by treiz » Wed May 2, 2012 2:00 pm

lukekarts wrote:Did I actually just read someone using 'turnovers' in football? Please, no...

As for Marin, I suspect he's coming in to replace Kalou/Malouda, who are out of contract in June. He's likely to be a part of our squad depth, rather than a key player.


Normally, I would agree with you but the fact that we would have nobody who's a naturally right footed winger if Kalou does leave. I do like Sturridge and I really hope he learns from this year on the team concept and up his game, but so far there's been nothing there but a good run of form at the start of the year that tells me he's our RW.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1449 » by lukekarts » Wed May 2, 2012 3:38 pm

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lukekarts wrote:Did I actually just read someone using 'turnovers' in football? Please, no...

As for Marin, I suspect he's coming in to replace Kalou/Malouda, who are out of contract in June. He's likely to be a part of our squad depth, rather than a key player.


Normally, I would agree with you but the fact that we would have nobody who's a naturally right footed winger if Kalou does leave. I do like Sturridge and I really hope he learns from this year on the team concept and up his game, but so far there's been nothing there but a good run of form at the start of the year that tells me he's our RW.


Yeah the problem is Sturridge isn't a right winger. I was at the QPR game on Sunday and Sturridge started on the left. Naturally he looks better on the left but he's at his best when he's running through the centre looking to score - sadly due to our success with the 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation and the presence of Drogba/Torres he's had limited opportunity.

Kalou almost starts by default though. He's still a really frustrating player to watch although I believe he did set up a goal at the weekend. He and Malouda were still the less effective players on the pitch though - the play was mainly through the middle and Sturridge on the left.

I'm certainly interested to see what happens this summer. I still think we really need someone like Hazard - but we also have De Bruyne coming in.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1450 » by 5DOM » Wed May 2, 2012 4:39 pm

I don't think Marin will be our first choice RW anyway. He's a left-sided player who likes to cut inside with his stronger right foot.

As for De Bruyne, I think he will be sent on loan - hopefully to a PL side but many clubs are interested apparently.

If we don't sign any right winger and let Kalou go, I expect us to use the rotation of Sturridge, Marin and Kakuta next season. Shame because we have a lot of players who can play on the left but not as well on the right: Mata, Marin, De Bruyne, Piazon and Malouda if he stays. Hell, even Kakuta's playing on the left side right now :lol:
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1451 » by treiz » Wed May 2, 2012 6:10 pm

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Yeah the problem is Sturridge isn't a right winger. I was at the QPR game on Sunday and Sturridge started on the left. Naturally he looks better on the left but he's at his best when he's running through the centre looking to score - sadly due to our success with the 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation and the presence of Drogba/Torres he's had limited opportunity.

Kalou almost starts by default though. He's still a really frustrating player to watch although I believe he did set up a goal at the weekend. He and Malouda were still the less effective players on the pitch though - the play was mainly through the middle and Sturridge on the left.

I'm certainly interested to see what happens this summer. I still think we really need someone like Hazard - but we also have De Bruyne coming in.


Again there's that and the only natural right footer we would have for the wing position would be Marin. With Drogba/Torres (really don't see Drogba leaving btw), Sturridge has to pick up his RW play and hopefully he begins to understand the position, he's only played in the PL for one year and all of the time out of his natural position, so let's hope he can pick it up next year.

Yes, I agree with Kalou, very frustrating player and I don't mind him leaving but we need the depth and if he stays the only reason he would get games ahead of Marin is because he's actually a very good at defending, which is why I would want Marin to hopefully be able to do that, they both like staying out wide and they both like to cut in and Marin is probably better at that aspect as well as a better shot/passer/crosser than Kalou. But RDM seems to really like Kalou for some reason and I think that's mainly because of his defending. And yes, he also set up Torres' first goal.

Really hope we push Hazard, I think we need him. De Bruyne isn't going to contribute any time soon. Yes he played in the Champions League, but going from the Belgian league to the PL is a huge jump, the ability is there but he's not ready yet.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1452 » by treiz » Wed May 2, 2012 6:15 pm

5DOM wrote:I don't think Marin will be our first choice RW anyway. He's a left-sided player who likes to cut inside with his stronger right foot.

As for De Bruyne, I think he will be sent on loan - hopefully to a PL side but many clubs are interested apparently.

If we don't sign any right winger and let Kalou go, I expect us to use the rotation of Sturridge, Marin and Kakuta next season. Shame because we have a lot of players who can play on the left but not as well on the right: Mata, Marin, De Bruyne, Piazon and Malouda if he stays. Hell, even Kakuta's playing on the left side right now :lol:


Doesn't really matter who the RW is, I think playing 2 wingers in any system will always have them interchanging, just hoping that Marin can secure one of those positions convincingly, as I wouldn't trust anybody yet, unless De Bruyne somehow manages to explode into the scene his first year, I don't even trust Kakuta, if Ryo (who I really like btw) can get a game at Bolton, why couldn't he? My one concern is that if Kalou leaves, he'll be our only right footed winger. We really have a surplus of left wingers and not enough right wingers on our team. That list of wingers is really poor and I really want Mata to play in the middle, so I am hoping for a Marin/Sturridge duo from that list to carry us next year.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1453 » by TyrusRose2425 » Sun May 6, 2012 10:23 am

Bayern is supposedly favorite to land Higuain this summer.
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Post#1454 » by Foye » Sun May 6, 2012 11:36 am

TyrusRose2425 wrote:Bayern is supposedly favorite to land Higuain this summer.


That would be huge for Bayern. They need a striker next to Gomez that can handle the ball.
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Post#1455 » by Curtis Lemansky » Tue May 8, 2012 8:50 am

Emre Belozoglu reportedly has reached an agreement with Atletico Madrid. He is injury-prone and overly-agressive (and that's an understatement) but he is still a very good two-way midfielder and I bet he will fit seamlessly to Spanish football style if the transfer goes through.
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Post#1456 » by bryant08 » Tue May 8, 2012 12:50 pm

Hazard will apparently be "wearing blue" next season:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ar?cc=5901
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Re: Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved 

Post#1457 » by treiz » Tue May 8, 2012 2:11 pm

bryant08 wrote:Hazard will apparently be "wearing blue" next season:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ar?cc=5901


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Post#1458 » by IronChef » Wed May 9, 2012 2:56 pm

Several outlets, including Arseblog, and Le Parisien, reporting Arsenal have a agreed a 22 Mil transfer of Yann M'Vila, along with a 4 year contract. Hell Yeah
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Post#1459 » by lukekarts » Wed May 9, 2012 2:59 pm

Arsene Wenger in buying a defensive midfielder shocker. Arsenal fans have been waiting 10 years for this! lol.
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Post#1460 » by jerrod » Wed May 9, 2012 3:46 pm

IronChef wrote:Several outlets, including Arseblog, and Le Parisien, reporting Arsenal have a agreed a 22 Mil transfer of Yann M'Vila, along with a 4 year contract. Hell Yeah



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