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Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient

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Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#1 » by truthiness » Fri May 18, 2012 12:54 pm

I am not going to discuss the offensive system, because there is none. So I will discuss the defensive system that the Heat have in place.

A few things about Spoelstra's defensive system have been bothering me a lot, especially since 2010. Yeah, the defense has been one of the best in the league, but at what cost ? I think you could achieve similar results with far less effort or have a much better D with similar effort.

So here are my thoughts about it:

1. Let's get the excuses out of the way: "he inherited the system from Pat Riley" is the top excuse of Spoelstra's fans whenever his system is criticized. That might be true, but Riley adapted his system and his coaching to fit the players that he had. He ran the showtime Lakers as well as one of the most thuggish D's the league has ever seen in NY. You can't run the same system that you ran with Ewing or Zo when you have Bosh or Joel at C.

Another thing is: when Riley's D's were no 1 in the league, teams were shooting half the 3p's they're shooting these days and you could hand check people.

2. Showing up so hard on ALL pick and rolls is extremely demanding and is destabilizing the whole defense. It kills players physically and can't be sustained over the course of a season + playoffs. Players are routinely scrambling back to find their men and have to put a lot of energy into recovering and covering corner shooters. If a team can move the ball and shoot the 3, the Heat will get exhausted chasing them around. You can win a game or a series, but as we saw last season, at the end the players legs were dead, the J's weren't falling anymore and they couldn't keep up the defensive pressure either.

Not to mention showing up on p&r when the opposing PG/ball handler is not a good shooter is just stupid. Just go under the screen.

Edit: Forgot one thing: fatigue means players are more likely to get injured. When you worked so hard and sacrificed a few years to get 3 stars on the same team, running them into the ground is not quite the smartest idea.

3. It leaves players out of position for defensive rebounds/boxing out. How come the Heat give up so many off rebounds ? Why are Bosh's rebounding numbers so much worse than in Toronto ? Scrambling all around the floor chasing the ball like a stupid dog will leave you out of position for the rebound.

4. It's a very predictable D, so once you figured out how to beat it, it's just a matter of executing till the Heat's players legs give out. You need to do 3 simple things: move the ball, shoot the 3 well and crash the offensive boards. I had the Pacers in 6 even before Bosh went down with an injury because this is exactly what the Pacers are doing and how they beat the Heat in the regular season this season and the one before.

5. It doesn't take advantage of the personnel. Your best line-up was supposed to have 5 guys between 6'4 and 6'10 (with the 6'10 guy a very mobile one). Why show so hard on pick and rolls when most of the time you can switch ? What's the point of having so many versatile players if you're not using their versatility ?

You can switch most of the time and only come help when you get a really unfavorable match-up. That would lead to far less scrambling and a much more efficient defense, with less energy spent running all over the court.

6. It doesn't take advantage of the changes in the rules and game style. As mentioned before, these days you can play a zone but you can't hand check people anymore, and teams are shooting twice as many 3's.

You have guys that would be pretty good in a zone: long and fast, they can go out to the 3p line and back to stop penetration. Many teams in the NBA have no idea how to attack a zone. Especially if they don't have shooters or their shooters are cold. If you're faced with a team that pounds the ball inside or penetrates a lot or uses the p&r all the time, just play some zone and see if they hit contested long 2's and 3's just as well as they do layups.

So why not play zone ?

The Mavs used a lot of zone last season and they were the 8th best defense in the league despite playing some guys that were old and/or slow. I think the Heat can do much better with the players they have while also allowing them to keep some energy for the offense.


My conclusion:

You know the saying:

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail


That's Spoelstra.

He doesn't have anything but a defensive system he supposedly learned from Pat Riley (although I think he never really understood it and he's just mimicking it like a parrot) so he applies it to all the problems he faces. You can see it in his speeches, in his post-game conferences: the system is good, you just need to work harder, keep grinding, don't let go of the rope. That's basically saying "the hammer is good, just strike harder with it". That's hardly the response of someone that has more tools in his toolbox.

The Heat's defense has been good on talent and effort alone, just like the Heat's offense, without much (if any) help from the sidelines. But talent and effort will only take you so far, and when you play against team that has similar talent and are also giving their best, it's coaching that makes the difference. Not only the coaching done in the game, but the coaching done throughout the season, stuff like resting your players, saving your players' legs for the postseason etc. That's why the Spurs look so good now and Lebron and Wade look broken and exhausted, even though Duncan is about 10 years older than Lebron.

One last thing: for all those saying that the team should win even with Spoelstra as coach, you're severely underrating the importance of a coach for a basketball team. In fact, I plan on writing a post detailing how important coaches are to a team's title aspirations.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#2 » by Heat_team02 » Fri May 18, 2012 1:12 pm

In one sentence, if teams execute by swinging the ball around and getting the shot off relatively early in the shot clock, players will be caught scrambling frantically out of position, our help defense is exposed and the defensive system of the 90's is rendered ineffective.
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Post#3 » by NoComparison » Fri May 18, 2012 1:15 pm

#3 is something I've noticed lately.

and #2 is killing our player's energy, it can be effective at times but it will def wear you out as the game goes on. This may be also why our 3pt specialists, Battier and Miller can't hit threes... maybe? Idk.

Spo will make little or no adjustments because this is their "system." This is how they're supposed to play no matter what happens. If we get outcoached and outmatched, Spo would not even bother to look at what happened, what is wrong, whats the flaw to their defense.

He would just think "OH our players didn't give enough effort." "Lets not let go of the rope guys!" "Lets get over the hump!"

This is spot on. Great thread.
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Post#4 » by greg4012 » Fri May 18, 2012 1:27 pm

Thanks for posting. As someone who follows basketball to a certain extent, but is no master of the x's and o's, this is interesting and makes a lot of sense.

What people have to understand when they get defensive about criticism of Spoelstra is that he is undoubtedly an NBA caliber HC. He knows the game and can do well in certain situations. I've wanted him gone for much of this past season, but with the HEAT being favored to win, that would be a hard thing to justify if that came to fruition. Unfortunately, Miami's situation is a unique one, and he is not a big enough figure to own the locker room. There are likely only a handful of coaches on the planet that can mold the psyche of the HEAT's locker room into a real team.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#5 » by Lord Hades » Fri May 18, 2012 1:37 pm

Heat_team02 wrote:In one sentence, if teams execute by swinging the ball around and getting the shot off relatively early in the shot clock, players will be caught scrambling frantically out of position, our help defense is exposed and the defensive system of the 90's is rendered ineffective.

Pretty much. I like this scheme in doses, but it can be hugely exploited. Teams know what they're going to see all game, with no counter regardless of what's going on.

With our personnel, we could easily still play top notch D without the excessive gambling. It doesn't need to be a 48 minute scramble.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#6 » by NoComparison » Fri May 18, 2012 1:37 pm

We could talk about this all day.

But this could make our team instantly better.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atpZXLfbbss[/youtube]

This is something I don't see at all from Wade this year. Well, at least this postseason.

Wade is deferring to LeBron too much now its sickening.

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Post#7 » by cb1 » Fri May 18, 2012 1:52 pm

NoComparison wrote:#3 is something I've noticed lately.

and #2 is killing our player's energy, it can be effective at times but it will def wear you out as the game goes on. This may be also why our 3pt specialists, Battier and Miller can't hit threes... maybe? Idk.

Spo will make little or no adjustments because this is their "system." This is how they're supposed to play no matter what happens. If we get outcoached and outmatched, Spo would not even bother to look at what happened, what is wrong, whats the flaw to their defense.

He would just think "OH our players didn't give enough effort." "Lets not let go of the rope guys!" "Lets get over the hump!"

This is spot on. Great thread.

Maybe, just maybe this is why our role players can't seem to hit wide wide open shots is because on the other end they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off and running on fumes.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#8 » by NoComparison » Fri May 18, 2012 1:57 pm

I mean our role players need to step up, but

Coaches are there to put players into great position to succeed.

and I think Spo is single handedly killing this team.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#9 » by illmaticone » Fri May 18, 2012 2:06 pm

I am going to say this til I get blue in the face...

Getting rid of Spo will not change a thing about our system because our system is the Riley way, we've been running it since he got here 20 years or so ago...and that system does not work with the team we have constructed as it is now. That system revolved around a dominant anchor in the paint (Kareem, Ewing, Zo, Shaq), we have none. That is why our defense is bad and our offense staggers so much, our D is made to funnel people into the paint so that the Big can clean it up, keeping people discouraged from going in and jacking up bad shots...things will not change as long as Riley is running the show, the thing that we can do is bring in a REAL BIG MAN...*Calling Orlando*
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Post#10 » by cb1 » Fri May 18, 2012 2:48 pm

illmaticone wrote:I am going to say this til I get blue in the face...

Getting rid of Spo will not change a thing about our system because our system is the Riley way, we've been running it since he got here 20 years or so ago...and that system does not work with the team we have constructed as it is now. That system revolved around a dominant anchor in the paint (Kareem, Ewing, Zo, Shaq), we have none. That is why our defense is bad and our offense staggers so much, our D is made to funnel people into the paint so that the Big can clean it up, keeping people discouraged from going in and jacking up bad shots...things will not change as long as Riley is running the show, the thing that we can do is bring in a REAL BIG MAN...*Calling Orlando*

What you're talking about is "ice" and i never seen us do that on any pick n rolls. We hedge and trap everybody even if they can't make a play coming off the pick n roll.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#11 » by LeMVP » Fri May 18, 2012 5:15 pm

NoComparison wrote:We could talk about this all day.

But this could make our team instantly better.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atpZXLfbbss[/youtube]

This is something I don't see at all from Wade this year. Well, at least this postseason.

Wade is deferring to LeBron too much now its sickening.

:oops:


I don't see the problem between 'deferring to LeBron' and 'moving your ass of the ball'. The problem is that he gets the ball to LeBron and then keeps standing somewhere around the 3pt line. LeBron has an extremely good court vision and is an excellent passer. If you make yourself open, you'll get the ball, every, single, time.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#12 » by truthiness » Fri May 18, 2012 5:22 pm

NoComparison wrote:I mean our role players need to step up, but

Coaches are there to put players into great position to succeed.

and I think Spo is single handedly killing this team.


^^^ This is something many fans overlook or just plain don't understand.
Check the history of the league and see that great role players (I am talking Horry, Kerr, Paxson) "happened" to play for great coaches. That's harder to see for stars, cause they get their numbers either way, but good/great coaches make their jobs so much easier and players become more efficient and everything translates into wins and titles.


illmaticone wrote:I am going to say this til I get blue in the face...

Getting rid of Spo will not change a thing about our system because our system is the Riley way, we've been running it since he got here 20 years or so ago...and that system does not work with the team we have constructed as it is now. That system revolved around a dominant anchor in the paint (Kareem, Ewing, Zo, Shaq), we have none. That is why our defense is bad and our offense staggers so much, our D is made to funnel people into the paint so that the Big can clean it up, keeping people discouraged from going in and jacking up bad shots...things will not change as long as Riley is running the show, the thing that we can do is bring in a REAL BIG MAN...*Calling Orlando*


Pat Riley showed he can adapt. He ran the Showtime Lakers and the "we'll kill you rather than give you a layup" Knicks. He reinvented himself a couple of times in his career and in Miami he showed he was not afraid to make changes, to adapt his team.

And one might give Riley a pass if he was too set in his ways - after all he did win a lot with his system(s). But Spoelstra has won nothing, so he has no excuse for being so stubborn.
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Re: Why Spoelstra's defensive system is bad and inefficient 

Post#13 » by wallsfamily » Fri May 18, 2012 5:47 pm

Perfect points! But let me add that the reql problem is the constant doubling and leaving shooters open. Playoff basketball is about adjustments and there is no adjustments. See how we struggle after substituting and how people light up our bench who then can't score because they are so concerned about defense! We need to change up defenses and only do the doubling on real stars. Notice how thebPacers would tap out rebounds because we don't stay with our man because of the switching! We got 2 days and we need to come out and take their heart.
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Post#14 » by twinthunder3 » Sun May 20, 2012 6:19 pm

I didn't even think he had a system. To me, it was pretty much, rely on the big 3.

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