2012 NBA Draft - Part III

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Tony Mitchell, N Tex St, decided to stay in school. Next season he should be a high lottery pick.

Alabama's Tony Mitchell is athletically gifted, jangles86, but IMO he's got some red flags heading into the draft from having been kicked off his team for a while. I wonder how that affect him in the draft.

[Jay81]

Less then two week to go till ping pong ball day. Sure will be nice to know where we are slotted.

May 30, 2012

if we were guaranteed to pick #2...would you take that....or would you risk going to #5 but also maybe getting 1. lol

[Jay81]

Not sure if you guys saw this but Nivek gave yoda's top 14 a few days ago. I wanted to post it again in case you missed this awesome post. Thanks dude

Here's the top 14 in YODA based on information currently available. I'm giving 14 because there's a tier break at that spot. The list will probably change a bit as draft camp measurements are released and if additional information about a player gets published.

In parentheses are players with comparable YODA scores.

Anthony Davis (Shaq (SO), Durant, Oden)

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Jae Crowder (Carmelo, Granger (SR), Battier (FR), Wade (SO))
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (Faried (SR), Bosh (FR), Duncan (JR), Jamison, Rasheed Wallace (SO))

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Bradley Beal (Stephen Curry (FR), Barkley (JR), Arenas (SO))
Marcus Denmon (Blair, Millsap (SO), Harden (SO), Evan Turner (JR))

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Jared Sullinger (Thabeet, Arenas (FR), Hakeem (FR), Camby (JR), Kawhi Leonard (SO), Sweetney (JR))
Tyler Zeller (Mike Miller (SO), Stuckey (SO), Aldridge (FR))
Thomas Robinson (see Zeller's list, also -- David West (SR))

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John Henson (Barkley (FR), Budinger (FR), Holiday (FR), Al Horford (SO), Artest (SO), Shelden Williams (SO), Ed Davis (SO), Fizer (JR)
Will Barton (Tayshaun Prince (SR), Booker (SR), Stromile Swift (SO), Etan (SR), Tony Allen (FR)
Dion Waiters (see Barton's list -- their scores in YODA are very close; also Caron Butler (FR), Paul Pierce (SO)
Damian Lillard (see lists for Barton and Waiters; also Greg Monroe (SO), Barkley (SO), Steve Blake (SR), Chalmers (SO), Jamison (FR), Stockton (SR)

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Andre Drummond (Chris Kaman (SR), Markieff Morris (JR), Richard Jefferson (FR), Ben Gordon (JR), Jae Crowder (JR), Harrison Barnes (FR), Deng (FR), Granger (JR), Marshon Brooks (SR), Randolph Childress (SO))
Terrence Jones (see Drummond's list; also Norris Cole (SR), Tristan Thompson (FR), Andre Emmet (SR), Hibbert (SR), David Lee (JR)

[The Consiglieri]

Less then two week to go till ping pong ball day. Sure will be nice to know where we are slotted.

May 30, 2012

if we were guaranteed to pick #2...would you take that....or would you risk going to #5 but also maybe getting 1. lol

With the worst case scenario having happened a year ago, i have a hard time believing that the 12% scenario is all that likely, I tend to think we're either going to land a 1-3 pick, or the 4th, and as such, I'd just just take the odds and the risk, with nearly a 20% chance at Davis, more than a coin flips chance at top 3, and a 1 in 3 chance at the 4 slot, I'd just prefer to keep that chance of getting Davis (especially since scouts have much higher expectations and projections of him than we do, the Camby projection seems to be the floor expectation of scouts).

And like others, if we landed 5, there's no way in hell I'd take that slot, assuming a double pick team didnt land a top 3 slot, I'd try to deal down with one of them.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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Here's the top 14 in YODA based on information currently available. I'm giving 14 because there's a tier break at that spot. The list will probably change a bit as draft camp measurements are released and if additional information about a player gets published.

In parentheses are players with comparable YODA scores.

Anthony Davis (Shaq (SO), Durant, Oden)

...
Jae Crowder (Carmelo, Granger (SR), Battier (FR), Wade (SO))
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (Faried (SR), Bosh (FR), Duncan (JR), Jamison, Rasheed Wallace (SO))

...
Bradley Beal (Stephen Curry (FR), Barkley (JR), Arenas (SO))
Marcus Denmon (Blair, Millsap (SO), Harden (SO), Evan Turner (JR))

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Jared Sullinger (Thabeet, Arenas (FR), Hakeem (FR), Camby (JR), Kawhi Leonard (SO), Sweetney (JR))
Tyler Zeller (Mike Miller (SO), Stuckey (SO), Aldridge (FR))
Thomas Robinson (see Zeller's list, also -- David West (SR))

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John Henson (Barkley (FR), Budinger (FR), Holiday (FR), Al Horford (SO), Artest (SO), Shelden Williams (SO), Ed Davis (SO), Fizer (JR)
Will Barton (Tayshaun Prince (SR), Booker (SR), Stromile Swift (SO), Etan (SR), Tony Allen (FR)
Dion Waiters (see Barton's list -- their scores in YODA are very close; also Caron Butler (FR), Paul Pierce (SO)
Damian Lillard (see lists for Barton and Waiters; also Greg Monroe (SO), Barkley (SO), Steve Blake (SR), Chalmers (SO), Jamison (FR), Stockton (SR)

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Andre Drummond (Chris Kaman (SR), Markieff Morris (JR), Richard Jefferson (FR), Ben Gordon (JR), Jae Crowder (JR), Harrison Barnes (FR), Deng (FR), Granger (JR), Marshon Brooks (SR), Randolph Childress (SO))
Terrence Jones (see Drummond's list; also Norris Cole (SR), Tristan Thompson (FR), Andre Emmet (SR), Hibbert (SR), David Lee (JR)[/quote]

Thanks Ji for reposting Nivek's list.

I think the guy who I didn't like in person and who lacks athleticism, Jared Sullinger, will drop from the top 10 and maybe end up a value pick for someone. If his back is okay he might turn out to be better than anticipated, in an early Carlos Boozer way.

[jangles86]

Tony Mitchell, N Tex St, decided to stay in school. Next season he should be a high lottery pick.

Alabama's Tony Mitchell is athletically gifted, jangles86, but IMO he's got some red flags heading into the draft from having been kicked off his team for a while. I wonder how that affect him in the draft.

He'll be a handy athletic Wing for any team, improved his mid range shot but still lacks a handle. Obviously had trouble with his coach, but you cant ignore the guys athletic ability.

[theboomking]

A lot of us have agreed that Eric Gordon is a poor comp for Beal, because of Gordon's superior 1st step and athleticism.

What do you guys think about Eric Gordon as a comp for Dion Waiters? I rather like Waiters in a trade down or trade up scenario.

[Earth2Ted]

This has probably been posted before, but what does YODA say about the wing players we have picked in the first round over the years, i.e. Nick Young, Calbert Cheaney, Rip Hamilton, and Jeff Malone? Oh, and almost forgot- Jarvis Hayes.

As much as we need a 2 guard, is Beal really good enough that we would leave a rebounder like Thomas Robinson on the board? As refreshing as it was to see Nene and Seraphin picking up their game at the end of the season, neither of them are particularly good on the glass, especially Seraphin who lost a lot of rebounds that he should have gotten.

Is there something really obvious about Beal's game that says that he is going to be better than Jarvis Hayes, who put up some good shooting numbers in college, and shot better from the 3 point line as a freshman than Beal?