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Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

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If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#21 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat May 5, 2012 11:04 pm

MKG is going to have a Joakim Noah effect on whoever drafts him. He's not the best or even second best player on the team, but when he's out things just go to s**t.
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Post#22 » by sca » Sat May 5, 2012 11:35 pm

fredericklove wrote:How...you even able to get the Marvin William comparison lol, they both have the most opposite game...ever.

I didn't mean to say that their playing styles were similar. Sorry for the inconvenience. I just feel that... He does what he does with using his athleticism. Bulldozing through the paint. Making hustle plays. He's not much of a skilled player. So he'll struggle a lot on offense. And even if he turns out to be a great defender as he's advertised (I feel like he's overrated in that side of the court also), he won't be able to anchor a defense a la those hustle bigs do. He's likely to have a very limited role when it's said and done. His stock is high because he's helped his team win a 'chip as a freshman, but if it weren't for Anthony Davis, we'd be talking late lottery for MKG. Best case scenario is prime Gerald Wallace with lesser stealing and blocking ability, IMO.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#23 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat May 5, 2012 11:39 pm

Marlo Stanfield wrote:MKG is going to have a Joakim Noah effect on whoever drafts him. He's not the best or even second best player on the team, but when he's out things just go to s**t.


Maybe he's the injured piece we've been missing since garbojosa. Perhaps even a superstar garbo. Get er done BC, get er done.
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Post#24 » by Mehar » Sun May 6, 2012 12:07 am

I agree that he'll slip, but not that far. I think he'll be the first wing taken, but some of the bigs will probably go higher. I could see two of Sully, Drummond, Robinson, PJIII go 2nd, 3rd, and then MKG will go 4th or maybe 5th.[/quote]

I'm predicting Beal & Barnes go ahead of MKG on draft night.[/quote]

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Post#25 » by CTG » Sun May 20, 2012 4:28 pm

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Post#26 » by gerrit4 » Sun May 20, 2012 4:34 pm

Throwback24 wrote:We don't even talk about him because we know the odds of entering the top 3 are slim to none.



About 10% right? Not great odds, but certainly not in the 'slim to non' territory.
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Post#27 » by Mister Ze » Sun May 20, 2012 4:36 pm

If Toronto did draft him they would have the worst jump-shooting wings in the league.
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Post#28 » by RomaniaLuvTR » Sun May 20, 2012 5:07 pm

Master Ze wrote:If Toronto did draft him they would have the worst jump-shooting wings in the league.

so what our d would be unreal..defense wins championships
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Post#29 » by onions17 » Sun May 20, 2012 5:25 pm

What is with these polls.. kinda dumb
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Post#30 » by Dr Positivity » Sun May 20, 2012 5:44 pm

Not that I don't like MKG, but I kind of feel like we'd be one of the least best fits for him. Part of the appeal of MKG is that if he was a hockey player, he'd be the type that people are saying "That guy's going to wear the C one day" as soon as he's drafted. IE Gabriel Landeskog was a guaranteed future captain pick by Colorado. He's great for Sacramento, Washington or Charlotte to start having a winning mentality.

But we kind of have that right now. There's a reason we're picking 8th and not 3rd despite our horrible talent. We have Derozan, we have James Johnson, we have Dwane Casey. I don't know if it's AS imperative for us to have an intangibles first player like this. Our need is offensive talent moreso than a culture change
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Post#31 » by KL78192020 » Sun May 20, 2012 5:49 pm

These threads will only be taken seriously after May 30th. Most of these guys don't mean a thing for us.
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Post#32 » by ash_k » Sun May 20, 2012 6:08 pm

I do not look like the Prospect at all,

But the MKG 2012 pre draft workout VIDEO was one the most impressive 3-minutes(Emphasize 3 minutes) workout footage I have ever seen from any Basketball player.

Hope his body handles it as it is still developing
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Post#33 » by basketball royalty » Sun May 20, 2012 8:15 pm

I would love it if we got the opportunity to draft this kid.
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Post#34 » by Undefeated » Sun May 20, 2012 8:21 pm

Master Ze wrote:If Toronto did draft him they would have the worst jump-shooting wings in the league.


MKG actually isn't that bad of a shooter. I don't know what happened after the Christmas break, but prior to that I remember him shooting ~32% from 3-pt. A few minor tweaks here and there like tucking his shooting elbow in, and he'll be good to go. With his outstanding work ethic, I think it's very possible. He always has the hunger to improve and is never satisfied with his game. But the Raptors should have a very good dribble-drive game with DeMar and MKG on the wing.
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Post#35 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Mon May 21, 2012 4:21 am

ballocks wrote:I think MKG is the gold standard. He might not be a good fit on Charlotte, for example, but he basically fits our "job posting" like a glove. I hope against hope that we can find a way to move up and snag him. He would reinforce our cultural shift, for starters, and come in with the reputation of not only else. If it means losing our 2013 first, so be it. The obsession with 'depth' is killing us, though, imho; I don't think the 'interchangeability' between our first and second units is necessarily a good thing.

I don't want to break down his game under a microscope. That's been done many times over. I just think this is a player/attitude we need to acquire and we need to find a way to do it (like the Washington Redskins and RG3, for example). Tony Wroten, Terrence Jones and Dion Waiters are all promising kids, but they don't make sense in Toronto right now for all the reasons in the world- most of which have nothing to do with them.

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I'd argue being a winner is pretty subjective. Is MKG a winner, simply for playing on a stacked team including Davis? NCAA, comes down to single games series, simply getting hot at the right time can get it done, or going cold at the wrong time can knock you out.

Was michael jordan always a winner? Before he won, many didn't think so...too selfish, didn't make his teammates better, etc. etc. Is lebron a winner? Is steve kerr (he won on san antonio too lol)? Hypotheticly say rodman was traded for karl malone and the bulls won 5 championships and utah 1 Malone would go down in history as a winner. I dunno I'm going off on a tangent here, but hopefully I'm making some sort of point.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#36 » by deeps6x » Mon May 21, 2012 9:51 pm

Los Manos wrote:
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Los Manos wrote:I'm predicting MKG slips on draft night. I just think most teams ahead of us can make a compelling argument to take other players ahead of MKG and that he is going to have an anxious wait in the green room. His stock right now is inflated, more than any other player in the lottery and it doesn't match his current skill-set/upside.

I'd say there is a decent chance he is still on the board when the warriors pick. The problem for the raptors is that they will likely take him!


I agree that he'll slip, but not that far. I think he'll be the first wing taken, but some of the bigs will probably go higher. I could see two of Sully, Drummond, Robinson, PJIII go 2nd, 3rd, and then MKG will go 4th or maybe 5th.


I'm predicting Beal & Barnes go ahead of MKG on draft night.


Oh good lord. Beal possibly, Drummond and T-Robb, also possibly, but less likely. Barnes? No frickin' way.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#37 » by God Squad » Tue May 22, 2012 3:12 pm

Only way Barnes goes ahead of MKG is if Wash or Clev are drunk on Barnes.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#38 » by CTG » Sun May 27, 2012 3:37 pm

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Post#39 » by Pchu » Wed May 30, 2012 2:42 pm

Not a lot of people use this comparison for MKG. But there are lots of similarities between MKG and Kawhi Leonard.

Both are good athletes, works hard, great rebounders. Jump shot is a work in progress in college.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#40 » by Throwback24 » Wed May 30, 2012 10:23 pm

His work out vid looked eh but I bet he impresses in the player vs. player workouts.
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