Lawrie is back, what to do with Gomes?

[Kapono]

you see the highlights of Vlad's "spring training"? dude can barely leg it to first.

my expectations for Vlad are low. I'd rather have Gomes DHing or playing 1st (if he can) and take our time on Vlad. give Vlad a month. Gomes's #s will come back to earth (or plummet mightily) and things will play out.

it also doesn't hurt to send Gomes back to AAA for more seasoning and experience. if Lawrie's a franchise player, you then move Gomes to 1st and let him play there the year in preparation for next season.

He's been like that for a few years now

[wbbfan]

The way gomes has been playing is only good for us. At worst more depth allowing us to rid our selfs of ben, and keep lind the hell away from the mlb team.
As for Vlad, Ive allways been a fan of his though he's far from what he used to be I could see him being of use. Pretty much any place he hits the ball hell be standing at first but still a dangerous mlb bat. Either as a bench guy or in a rotation I could see some solid use out of him.

[flatjacket1]

Farrell says Jays seek to give Yan Gomes "relatively consistent at-bats" through his ability to play 1B, 3B, C and DH

Shi Davidi just tweeted ^

https://twitter.com/#!/ShiDavidi/status ... 5697135616

Looks like hes around to stay... for now.

[Mehar]

you see the highlights of Vlad's "spring training"? dude can barely leg it to first.

my expectations for Vlad are low. I'd rather have Gomes DHing or playing 1st (if he can) and take our time on Vlad. give Vlad a month. Gomes's #s will come back to earth (or plummet mightily) and things will play out.

it also doesn't hurt to send Gomes back to AAA for more seasoning and experience. if Lawrie's a franchise player, you then move Gomes to 1st and let him play there the year in preparation for next season.

I agree with that. Well said. Vlad was a great player in his prime, but he is no longer an everyday player. For the time being, have Gomes at DH or First, with Edwin taking one of the spots, since Lawrie is now back. If Vlad continues to swing the bat well at AAA, call him up and release Ben Francisco. Not sure why Francisco is even here, and Snyder is in AAA.

[kwamebargnani]

He could have been a piece in a trade even before the call-up, so these 10 AB/12 PA do not hurt.

10 At bats don't change his trade value. That's my point. Plain and simple.

[Hamyltowne]

He could have been a piece in a trade even before the call-up, so these 10 AB/12 PA do not hurt.

10 At bats don't change his trade value. That's my point. Plain and simple.

Sure it does. It extends his minor-league narrative into a major-AND-minor-league narrative that he is ready to contribute at the major-league level and at multiple positions. GMs will take that into account.

His future with the big-league club, however, cannot be guaranteed after 10 ABs. That was my point with the small sample size caveat.

His value to other clubs with different rosters and different needs is what distinguishes trade value from a role in the starting lineup.

Again, pretty straightforward, really. But you're welcome to nitpick further along the circumference of the well-known facts of trade value.

Have at it.

[Hamyltowne]

Repeating my point from the series thread:

Yan Gomes is giving the small sample size caveat some anxiety.

[kwamebargnani]

If you think several at bats help his trade value, that's fine. But I don't. A top prospect can look like a total scrub, and a bonifide scrub can look like an All-Star in a small amount of at bats. GMs are not dumb.

[flatjacket1]

Theoretically 10 AB's can improve trade value. 10 HR's vs 10 K's is quite a difference.

It won't move it much, but still 10 AB's can change value even marginally.

[Hamyltowne]

If you think several at bats help his trade value, that's fine. But I don't. A top prospect can look like a total scrub, and a bonifide scrub can look like an All-Star in a small amount of at bats. GMs are not dumb.

And I part company.

We agree to disagree, then.

The only reason I posted again was because Gomes hit a homer tonight and I wanted to update the thread, hoping to put an even bigger asterisk next to his level of play in such a limited amount of time. Hence my comment on the SSS caveat having anxiety.

[dagger]

Gomes seems to have the ability to get a bat on the ball most trips to the plate. That's more than I can say for some of other hitters.

[SharoneWright]

Gomes backs up EE at first, JPA behind the dish, Lawrie at 3rd, and Vladdy at the DH.

He's in there 3-4 games a week.

Mathis goes bye-bye.

(D'Arnaud can come up in emergencies....)

(And Francicso/Thames is replaced by Snider... I don't really care. The only reason to keep Thames is that he becomes the left handed bat off the bench - [Thames/Davis/Visquel/Gomes])

[Al_Oliver]

Gomes backs up EE at first, JPA behind the dish, Lawrie at 3rd, and Vladdy at the DH.

He's in there 3-4 games a week.

Mathis goes bye-bye.

(D'Arnaud can come up in emergencies....)

(And Francicso/Thames is replaced by Snider... I don't really care. The only reason to keep Thames is that he becomes the left handed bat off the bench - [Thames/Davis/Visquel/Gomes])

Mathis isn't going anywhere. I would imagine that Gomes gets sent down if it is ever between those 2.
Why would we want 2 inexperienced catchers in the majors, given our pitching staff?

[torontoaces04]

Gomes backs up EE at first, JPA behind the dish, Lawrie at 3rd, and Vladdy at the DH.

He's in there 3-4 games a week.

Mathis goes bye-bye.

(D'Arnaud can come up in emergencies....)

(And Francicso/Thames is replaced by Snider... I don't really care. The only reason to keep Thames is that he becomes the left handed bat off the bench - [Thames/Davis/Visquel/Gomes])

Mathis isn't going anywhere. I would imagine that Gomes gets sent down if it is ever between those 2.
Why would we want 2 inexperienced catchers in the majors, given our pitching staff?

+1000000

[dagger]

We could probably drop Crawford from the bullpen when Vlady is promoted. Keep Gomes around through interleague play. If he continues to do well after that, it will be a pleasant problem to work through.

[Hamyltowne]

Well now we know what they're going to do with Gomes:

I'm not sure if this was posted..

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#Brewers‬ catcher Paul Phillips has been traded to Toronto for cash. Phillips had been at Triple-A Nashville.

35 year old with a .480 OPS in the PCL this season.

He is just going to AAA to back up D'Arnaud since Gomes will be staying up with the Jays for a while.

He's here to stay for the next little while.