Monty Williams wants to add Size,Doesn't Think Draft is deep

finnegan · Post #1 » by **finnegan** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:07 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221143/Monty_Williams_Wants_Hornets_To_Add_Size_Doesnt_Think_Draft_Is_Deep_With_Talent

How about Al Jefferson for one of you lottery picks?

Lava Rock Kid · Post #2 » by **Lava Rock Kid** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:19 pm

I think Millsap would be a more likely player dealt from Utah, Especially since he is from louisiana

xpmar9x · Post #3 » by **xpmar9x** » Mon May 21, 2012 4:41 pm

Bulls would love to get involved. We can offer really anyone on team but Rose AND Noah. If you want vets we got Rip and Deng, as for bigs Boozer and Asik. Bulls need a lotto pick to get a young superstar for Rose.

finnegan · Post #4 » by **finnegan** » Mon May 21, 2012 5:00 pm

Deng is the only one with value. I would be shocked if Chicago gave up Deng for a pick. Maybe we could make it a three-way and send Deng to the Jazz.

xpmar9x · Post #5 » by **xpmar9x** » Mon May 21, 2012 5:19 pm

finnegan wrote:Deng is the only one with value. I would be shocked if Chicago gave up Deng for a pick. Maybe we could make it a three-way and send Deng to the Jazz.

Bulls have to trade somebody. Our starting lineup is 2mil over the cap as is. We can't afford to pay 4 players 10+mil, someones on the out.

finnegan · Post #6 » by **finnegan** » Mon May 21, 2012 10:26 pm

Utah Jazz
Incoming Players
Luol Deng
Outgoing Players
Al Jefferson
Mehmet Okur Trade Exception

Chicago Bull
Incoming Players
#10 Draft Pick
Mehmet Okur Trade Exception
Outgoing Players
Luol Deng

New Orleans Hornets
Incoming Players
Al Jefferson
Outgoing Players
#10 Draft Pick

BLT · Post #7 » by **BLT** » Mon May 21, 2012 11:15 pm

al jefferson for the #10 ? I'd pass we're rebuilding we want youth and picks not a big man in the last year of his deal.

finnegan · Post #8 » by **finnegan** » Tue May 22, 2012 1:25 am

BLT wrote:al jefferson for the #10 ? I'd pass we're rebuilding we want youth and picks not a big man in the last year of his deal.

Jazz gave up an near lottery pick to get him , and he has improved a lot under Jazz coaching, so #10 is not unreasonable. Monty Williams is saying he opposite of what you are.

xpmar9x · Post #9 » by **xpmar9x** » Tue May 22, 2012 4:00 pm

Bulls would possibly do that, we'd probably have to take Ariza back though. We'd also HAVE to get Barnes, Beal, Lamb, or Rivers at #10.

PELICANSFAN · Post #10 » by **PELICANSFAN** » Wed May 23, 2012 3:39 am

finnegan wrote:
BLT wrote:al jefferson for the #10 ? I'd pass we're rebuilding we want youth and picks not a big man in the last year of his deal.

Jazz gave up an near lottery pick to get him , and he has improved a lot under Jazz coaching, so #10 is not unreasonable. Monty Williams is saying he opposite of what you are.

No, Monty values defense.

finnegan · Post #11 » by **finnegan** » Wed May 23, 2012 8:12 am

HORNETSFAN wrote:
finnegan wrote:
BLT wrote:al jefferson for the #10 ? I'd pass we're rebuilding we want youth and picks not a big man in the last year of his deal.

Jazz gave up an near lottery pick to get him , and he has improved a lot under Jazz coaching, so #10 is not unreasonable. Monty Williams is saying he opposite of what you are.

No, Monty values defense.

Defense is not the problem with Al. The problem is assists. Once he gets the ball, he is much more likely than not to shoot it. But given that he makes a high percentage of his shots I am not sure that is such an issue.

janjanjanjan · Post #12 » by **janjanjanjan** » Thu May 24, 2012 6:18 am

But still he is on the last year of his deal, we could be looking at #10 for 1 year rental of Jefferson

if you can somehow include Okafor with the #10 for Jefferson then MAYBE Dell will like it

finnegan · Post #13 » by **finnegan** » Thu May 24, 2012 3:17 pm

Are extend and trades permitted under the new CBA? My guess is that the Jazz could get Jefferson to sign an extension if that is an issue for NO.

Jazz would much prefer Deng in a 3-way for Jefferson over taking back Okafor, as pick #10 seems like not enough compensation for taking the major downgrade from Jefferson down to Okafor. Jefferson has twice the offense and is even both a better defender and ball distributor than Okafor.

I don't think it is possible but, I wonder if there are any scenarios where Jazz could get both NOH picks. The reason that I think it is not possible is because Jazz would be unwilling to include Favors, Hayward, or Kanter. Milsap would be a possibility, but unlikely.

jc23 · Post #14 » by **jc23** » Thu May 24, 2012 6:39 pm

If monty likes Defense then a combo of Asik and Deng would make the hornets one of the better defensive teams in the league. Both are top 5 at their positions in that category IMO.

BLT · Post #15 » by **BLT** » Thu May 24, 2012 7:34 pm

asik is a top 5 defensive center? ... asik wouldnt start over okafor.

finnegan · Post #16 » by **finnegan** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:03 pm

jc23 wrote:If monty likes Defense then a combo of Asik and Deng would make the hornets one of the better defensive teams in the league. Both are top 5 at their positions in that category IMO.

Is this the same Asik who has averaged 13.2 minutes for his NBA career???

The only category that Asik is Top 5 in is sitting on the bench. Deng is legit, but Asik is just a stiff who you are trying to fill NOH need for a big man with.

Al Jefferson >>> Okafor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asik

xpmar9x · Post #17 » by **xpmar9x** » Mon May 28, 2012 5:24 pm

finnegan wrote:
jc23 wrote:If monty likes Defense then a combo of Asik and Deng would make the hornets one of the better defensive teams in the league. Both are top 5 at their positions in that category IMO.

Is this the same Asik who has averaged 13.2 minutes for his NBA career???

The only category that Asik is Top 5 in is sitting on the bench. Deng is legit, but Asik is just a stiff who you are trying to fill NOH need for a big man with.

Al Jefferson >>> Okafor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asik

Have you seen Omer play D? He's one of the best defensive centers in the league... as for offense he completely sucks, but he can do one thing... and that's defense.

tdouglas23 · Post #18 » by **tdouglas23** » Thu May 31, 2012 12:26 am

The hornets are back and going to better then ever

LINIZALLSTAR · Post #19 » by **LINIZALLSTAR** » Thu May 31, 2012 12:31 am

Congrats Hornets fans. 1st and 10th picks + Eric Gordon and some guys that can step up in Kaman and Jack and you guys are deadly.

BLT · Post #20 » by **BLT** » Thu May 31, 2012 12:40 am

HOW BOUT THAT SIZE MONTY!!!!! YEAAAAAAAAAA