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Backup "True" Point Guard

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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#21 » by KG_And1 » Mon May 21, 2012 8:57 pm

Need a defensive backup big as well.

I would rank our needs as:

SG
SF
Back up C/PF
Back up PG...we've still got JJ and Ridnour
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#22 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon May 21, 2012 10:26 pm

since Barea and Rubio are both represented by the same agent, I'm assuming Barea will have his butthole licked by the Wolves brass until further notice
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#23 » by Krapinsky » Tue May 22, 2012 1:22 am

lazfa199 wrote:
Foye wrote:
Curry is not more talented than Rubio.


Positives Rubio
-good feel for the game in the open court
-good passer
-good defender

Negatives Rubio
-cant shoot
-limited scoring ability
-has problems playing in the half court

Positives Curry
-good passer
-good in the open court and half court
-good scorer
-great shooter

Negatives Curry
-poor defender

Without taking injuries into consideration Curry > Rubio
but since they're both injured anyways its still Curry > Rubio


You just can't keep with a pro vs con analysis like this. Sorry, Foye.
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#24 » by cpfsf » Tue May 22, 2012 2:01 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:since Barea and Rubio are both represented by the same agent, I'm assuming Barea will have his salad tossed by the Wolves brass until further notice

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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#25 » by jade_hippo » Tue May 22, 2012 2:17 am

Krapinsky wrote:
lazfa199 wrote:
Foye wrote:
Curry is not more talented than Rubio.


Positives Rubio
-good feel for the game in the open court
-good passer
-good defender

Negatives Rubio
-cant shoot
-limited scoring ability
-has problems playing in the half court

Positives Curry
-good passer
-good in the open court and half court
-good scorer
-great shooter

Negatives Curry
-poor defender

Without taking injuries into consideration Curry > Rubio
but since they're both injured anyways its still Curry > Rubio


You just can't keep with a pro vs con analysis like this. Sorry, Foye.


Wow, I'm glad I've been informed of this. I was not aware of this equalibrium. We need to get rid of this hack who can't run an offence and get someone who can score. Rube for Jennings, he scored 50 once, that makes him better, right?
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#26 » by Saltine » Tue May 22, 2012 3:21 am

PG?
PG???
We don't have a PG issue;
or a PF issue.

We have a massive issue with our SF's and SG's.
Yes it might be nice to have a nice backup defensive C.
But it would be better to actually have a starting SG and a starting SF on the team.

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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#27 » by Klomp » Tue May 22, 2012 3:28 am

KG_And1 wrote:Need a defensive backup big as well.

I would rank our needs as:

SG
SF
Back up C/PF
Back up PG...we've still got JJ and Ridnour

I'd put SF ahead of SG simply because of Adelman's tendency to run two-PG sets as often as he does. Not that we don't need a SG, but I think a SF is more important for what Adelman is constructing here.
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#28 » by Vindicater » Tue May 22, 2012 4:54 am

Klomp wrote:The starting PG wasn't a problem when Rubio was out. Ridnour and Barea played very well. Rubio's absence simply magnified the fact that we still havea number of holes on this team.


Ridnour must never ever be put in the point guard position again.

One of the worst point guards I have ever seen, completely empty numbers, plays zero-less than zero defense and completely and utterly ruins all flow on the offensive end of the court.

He looked at his best when he was playing shooting guard next to Rubio and even then he looked average.
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#29 » by Viljanen » Tue May 22, 2012 7:17 am

traumeel wrote:
Viljanen wrote: Llull from Europe next season (IMO the best not-NBA spanish player at this moment)


Llull?

Llull?


Eeeem...Come on boy. Biased Real Madrid & Llull fanboy.


Really? Llull? LOL WTF!!


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Apart from Navarro who is old and won´t come back to the NBA, who´s better? (and I said non-NBA :-) )

Again…, of course SG and SF (if we don´t trust Williams there) are the only musts this offseason.

This said, what´s the problem in considering other minor improvements that could have some impact on the team, just for the sake of speaking about something…? It´s not like we´re going to distract Wolves´ management from doing the right thing or something. Just agreed with the poster that we have two PGs that are tiny and don´t defend at all.

I wasn´t thinking of llull as a starter, just a name that came to my mind when thinking about a cheap stopper combo guard. I´m far from being a real Madrid fan. This guy has been awarded as best PG in the ACB this year, if I´m biased then I guess I´m not the only one. Whether he´ll make it in the NBA or not… that´s another history, but last year there was also many people in Spain saying that Rubio was going to be a huge bust and look now. Llull has developed into a prolific scorer and he was already a very good defender. What else for a 10th man?
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#30 » by Tirion » Tue May 22, 2012 12:31 pm

Is this a joke?

Saying that this team needs a back-up point guard is like saying that a guy with a hole in his head needs a nose job.
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#31 » by Foye » Tue May 22, 2012 1:21 pm

Krapinsky wrote:You just can't keep with a pro vs con analysis like this. Sorry, Foye.


Because this pro vs. con analysis is perfect and doesn't have room for discussion? I completely agree with you Krap, he got me. :wave:

Curry has far more weaknesses in his game than Rubio. While Rubio is weak in shooting while Curry is a worse playmaker and defender. Sub in Curry for Rubio in this Wolves team. I honestly don't think they would win more games.
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#32 » by lazfa199 » Wed May 23, 2012 12:33 am

Foye wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:You just can't keep with a pro vs con analysis like this. Sorry, Foye.


Because this pro vs. con analysis is perfect and doesn't have room for discussion? I completely agree with you Krap, he got me. :wave:

Curry has far more weaknesses in his game than Rubio. While Rubio is weak in shooting while Curry is a worse playmaker and defender. Sub in Curry for Rubio in this Wolves team. I honestly don't think they would win more games.


:lol: curry is an all star caliber player while rubio is jason williams with decent defense ability
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#33 » by Klomp » Wed May 23, 2012 12:34 am

lazfa199 wrote: :lol: curry is an all star caliber player while rubio is jason williams with decent defense ability

You just keep on telling yourself that...
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Re: Backup "True" Point Guard 

Post#34 » by Viljanen » Wed May 23, 2012 9:25 am

Klomp wrote:
lazfa199 wrote: :lol: curry is an all star caliber player while rubio is jason williams with decent defense ability

You just keep on telling yourself that...


jason williams with a (very good, not decent) defensive ability is All star level to me. And more important, are the type of players that move me to watch basketball games. Show time!

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