all rookie teams - NO KEMBA, NO BIZ

Post #1 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:30 pm

let the outrage begin

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... First_Team

not that this wasnt predicted by many of us.

Post #2 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:32 pm

1st team:
irving
rubio
faried
k. thompson
shumpert
leonard

2nd team:
parsons
t. thompson
thomas
brooks
williams

thats 12 players. does it make it worse to know 7 people made 1st team and 5 on 2nd and STILL no kemba?

seems he finished 14th in voting.

Post #3 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:33 pm

biz finished tied for 15th

Post #4 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:35 pm

even as one who was not really impressed with kemba's rookie season, i would have to say this seems a little harsh. definitely some anti-bobcats voting happening here. this is what happens when you have the worst record in NBA history. everything associated with your franchise is affected negatively.

captaincrunk · Post #5 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:38 pm

Kemba had a bad season, he shouldn't win awards for it

bobcats3wallace · Post #6 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:43 pm

captaincrunk wrote:Kemba had a bad season, he shouldn't win awards for it

He didn't have a bad season. Sure he has room for improvement, but he still scored 12 a game with 4 assists and 4 rebounds per game. Not terrible numbers, especially considering the circumstances. The OP is right. Kemba is associated with the Bobcats and that makes him tainted. It wasn't because he had a "bad" season.

countryboi · Post #7 » by **countryboi** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:45 pm

man forget kemba....biz played well enough to make this team

captaincrunk · Post #8 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:47 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:Kemba had a bad season, he shouldn't win awards for it

He didn't have a bad season. Sure he has room for improvement, but he still scored 12 a game with 4 assists and 4 rebounds per game. Not terrible numbers, especially considering the circumstances. The OP is right. Kemba is associated with the Bobcats and that makes him tainted. It wasn't because he had a "bad" season.

I hope to god that he never has a season this bad again. Historically low shooting percentages for the historically bad team? Yeah man, give that guy a medal!

Eoghan · Post #9 » by **Eoghan** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:48 pm

That's fine b/c a lot of those cats just had their best year in the NBA. Kemba and Biz' are yet to come.

captaincrunk · Post #10 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:51 pm

BrotherDave wrote:That's fine b/c a lot of those cats just had their best year in the NBA. Kemba and Biz' are yet to come.

You might be right. Some of those guys were pretty nba ready

Liver_Pooty · Post #11 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:51 pm

Im not surprised in the least that neither of them made it.

hhvo · Post #12 » by **hhvo** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:52 pm

That horrible FG% probably held him back. I do believe he played pretty well, was aggressive and was able to create a lot good look at will... but I'm not surprise.

Hopefully, Kemba can use this as motivation to work on his game.

Post #13 » by **fatlever** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:57 pm

i think of those guys listed derrick williams is the guy i have the biggest problem with

8.8ppg, 4.7rpg on 41% and 12.9 PER

and maybe marshon brooks who had worse numbers than kemba in every single category except FG% and who got worse as the year went on.

but, like others said, you cant expect to win any awards when you shoot a league worst 36% (for qualified players) and win on 7 games.

Rich4114 · Post #14 » by **Rich4114** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:58 pm

Defensively, Biz is one of the best rookies. He is going to be a stud. Kemba was expected to play better than he did.

At the end of the day, this really has no meaning.

Stun704 · Post #15 » by **Stun704** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:08 pm

Hopefully they use this as added motivation

dmutombo321 · Post #16 » by **dmutombo321** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:36 pm

fatlever wrote:i think of those guys listed derrick williams is the guy i have the biggest problem with

8.8ppg, 4.7rpg on 41% and 12.9 PER

and maybe marshon brooks who had worse numbers than kemba in every single category except FG% and who got worse as the year went on.

but, like others said, you cant expect to win any awards when you shoot a league worst 36% (for qualified players) and win on 7 games.

Williams is arguable. Everyone else listed belongs where they are.

Brooks played like a stud early in the year and his numbers declined as the year went on when guys like Dwill and Brooks (briefly) came back from injury. Also, once Wallace came on board, Brooks got even fewer shots and involvement in the offense.

Had Brooks played for the bobcats this year, he would have easily been a 17+ppg scorer with similar FG%.

Post #17 » by **BigSlam** » Tue May 22, 2012 11:12 pm

Shocker......

KembaWalker · Post #18 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue May 22, 2012 11:54 pm

didnt expect to get anyone on there, but Kemba deserved it over some of those guys statistically and its not really close. Such is life as a Bobcats fan

SWedd523 · Post #19 » by **SWedd523** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:12 am

If Knight is worthy of 1st team and Brooks is worthy of 2nd team then Kemba should be on that 2nd team too.

But all in all, not surprised to see neither name on the list

Post #20 » by **Diop** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:33 am

Stun704 wrote:Hopefully they use this as added motivation

this would please me a whole lot more than making the rookie 2nd team.

I hope they can prove a lot of people wrong and really develop into solid starters.