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VGOSWAMI wrote:Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
The Orlando Magic are planning a draft workout for next week. Terrence Ross will likely be in attendance as well as several other guards.
Looks like we're working out players for the first time.
magicman123 wrote:BelgianMagic wrote:Kendall Marshall doesn't like Tyson over Dwight on the 1st team either ..Kendall Marshall @KButter5
I feel your pain Tyson Chandler. I guess it be like that sometimes.
isn't marshall standing up for chandler? not dwight, since chandler didn't make 1st team?
typo
VGOSWAMI wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:we've held draft workouts before. I'm waiting to see we'll have Marshall in for a workout.
I don't think Marshall is working out for any teams. I think he's still recovering from wrist surgery.
gp123 wrote:Not that I'm opposed as we need better guard play... But it's not like we need additional SGs on the depth charts... Jrich,JJ,wafer,liggins,Q i wouldn't get to comfortable.
gp123 wrote:Not that I'm opposed as we need better guard play... But it's not like we need additional SGs on the depth charts... Jrich,JJ,wafer,liggins,Q i wouldn't get to comfortable.
thelead wrote:gp123 wrote:Not that I'm opposed as we need better guard play... But it's not like we need additional SGs on the depth charts... Jrich,JJ,wafer,liggins,Q i wouldn't get to comfortable.
New GM, new coach, hopefully new backcourt with some athleticism.
VGOSWAMI wrote:thelead wrote:gp123 wrote:Not that I'm opposed as we need better guard play... But it's not like we need additional SGs on the depth charts... Jrich,JJ,wafer,liggins,Q i wouldn't get to comfortable.
New GM, new coach, hopefully new backcourt with some athleticism.
+1
I don't anticipate JJ nor JRich staying anyway.
arkknight1988 wrote:jj deserves to stay. jrich is not a winner and we need to get him out asap. he literally does nothing to help the team win
VGOSWAMI wrote:JRudolph's latest post:Opportunity is often discovered in the most awkward situations.
The Orlando Magic have dealt with plenty of head-scratching moments throughout the 11-12 season.
No situation was crazier than when Stan Van Gundy, the team’s former head coach, told the world that Dwight Howard wanted him to be fired. The unprecedented move aired the organization’s dirty laundry and made everyone, especially Howard, look bad. As crazy as that moment was, it wasn’t the most surprising. If we’re being honest, Van Gundy only confirmed an idea that many people already believed.
The most significant moment, and at this point the most relevant, is the initial report that Howard would be given the power to decide the fates of Van Gundy and Otis Smith, both now former Magic employees. The moment people started to discuss that particular rumor, the Magic gained leverage in the court of public opinion, which is a very important factor in this business.
No longer were Smith’s costly roster moves important. Van Gundy’s coaching methods were secondary. The complaints that fans and players have had no longer mattered because at that moment, Howard was universally seen as just another diva athlete showing he had absolute power; Smith and Van Gundy were collateral damage.
More importantly, the Magic no longer needed a real reason to fire Van Gundy or Smith. They could cite the team’s direction, first-round exits, lack of a return trip to the NBA Finals, whatever they felt sounded best because everyone assumes the move was made to appease their franchise player even if he, directly, had nothing to do with the decision.
Here is where the opportunity is found in all of this.
The Magic are positioned to lose Howard and come out looking like they did everything in their power to keep him. In the meantime, Howard’s image will take another hit.
From the perspective of a fan, it appears the Magic have started the process of meeting Howard’s demands, even though CEO Alex Martins has said Howard never asked for either man to be fired. The perception is that Howard is calling the shots.
The media’s point of view is that Howard has removed himself from the team and city and won’t ever return.
All of these things are happening without anyone having a real idea of how Howard feels or what he wants. And with him allowing this thing to get ahead of him, any response he makes will be seen as damage control.
It’s foolish to think the Magic don’t know this.
It’s even more foolish to believe they won’t capitalize on that idea in an effort to appease their fanbase, a fanbase that won’t be too eager to pay to watch a lottery team.
At the end of the day, this is a business. The Magic won’t let Howard take their fanbase with him if he leaves.
What has been lost in this entire ordeal are the real basketball issues that exist with Orlando. Howard is one of the most valuable players in the NBA, but the Magic are a middle-of-the-road team and there isn’t anything worse than that in professional sports. From a basketball perspective, Howard has every reason to explore his options and every reason to expect the Magic to improve the team’s on-court chances and off-court appeal.
Unfortunately, this situation isn’t primarily about the on-court product anymore. This has now become about saving face and avoiding more negative publicity. The sad thing is that may not be possible for either side.
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/article/22 ... z1vj1QCvBw
I completely agree with Rudolph's assessment. The Magic brass aren't dumb and they know they've been thru this with Shaq. The moment Dwight walks, Amway will be full of empty seats for a very long time, and they'll do their best to show that they've done all that they could. When in reality, they really haven't done anything at all. It's frustrating to turn on ESPN and see talking heads buy into this and say Dwight's spoiled for still wanting to leave after firing the coach and GM. Average fans and outsiders don't know how inept this organization is and our local Orlando media does a terrible job of exposing it.
I completely agree with Rudolph's assessment. The Magic brass aren't dumb and they know they've been thru this with Shaq. The moment Dwight walks, Amway will be full of empty seats for a very long time, and they'll do their best to show that they've done all that they could. When in reality, they really haven't done anything at all. It's frustrating to turn on ESPN and see talking heads buy into this and say Dwight's spoiled for still wanting to leave after firing the coach and GM. Average fans and outsiders don't know how inept this organization is and our local Orlando media does a terrible job of exposing it.
Darth Magic wrote:I completely agree with Rudolph's assessment. The Magic brass aren't dumb and they know they've been thru this with Shaq. The moment Dwight walks, Amway will be full of empty seats for a very long time, and they'll do their best to show that they've done all that they could. When in reality, they really haven't done anything at all. It's frustrating to turn on ESPN and see talking heads buy into this and say Dwight's spoiled for still wanting to leave after firing the coach and GM. Average fans and outsiders don't know how inept this organization is and our local Orlando media does a terrible job of exposing it.
Inept? Haven't done anything? Ok. I guess we don't have to turn on ESPN to get over emotional, illogical discourse...
As for the article itself, i agree for the most part with the premise. D12 is in a bad spot and i think Alex Martin has played this as perfectly as it can be played. No matter how this plays out the Magic is in good hands with Alex guiding the ship.
Nyce_1 wrote:WTF - Broussard just said SHAQUILLE O'neal will be interviewed NEXT WEEK for GM position.
3Pac wrote:sorry for bad english am from pennsylvania
Nyce_1 wrote:WTF - Broussard just said SHAQUILLE O'neal will be interviewed NEXT WEEK for GM position.
