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Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic

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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#41 » by NoLayupRule » Thu May 24, 2012 5:29 pm

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carayip wrote:Yeah, it's one thing for Lin warming the bench for a 2 time MVP Steve Nash but entirely different if it's for Goran Dragic like the article suggested. You think Dolan would be pleased to watch his cash cow Lin sitting on the bench for this no name Dragic? You really think Dragic would have the respect of Melo and Amare?

I love the idea of Lin and Nash best of all

Not only does Nash have everything in the world to teach Lin but they complement eachothers weaknesses well and Nash can play SG when we need him to

Is Nash able to come to the NYK for the veteran minimum?

yes, if hes willing
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#42 » by earthmansurfer » Thu May 24, 2012 5:59 pm

Lin took scrubs and turned them into something special. He did more with MUCH less.
Throw into that the before mentioned less experience that Lin has and room for upside.

I take Lin off what I see when I watch the games. Yes. Dragic is great, and perhaps he'll be in another Superman movie, but Lin is special. It ain't about stats and such, though they are nothing to sneeze at.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#43 » by Gil » Thu May 24, 2012 6:20 pm

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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#44 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu May 24, 2012 6:25 pm

We can afford one and not the other--who cares.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#45 » by richardhutnik » Thu May 24, 2012 6:26 pm

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carayip wrote:Yeah, it's one thing for Lin warming the bench for a 2 time MVP Steve Nash but entirely different if it's for Goran Dragic like the article suggested. You think Dolan would be pleased to watch his cash cow Lin sitting on the bench for this no name Dragic? You really think Dragic would have the respect of Melo and Amare?

I love the idea of Lin and Nash best of all

Not only does Nash have everything in the world to teach Lin but they complement eachothers weaknesses well and Nash can play SG when we need him to


this. actually Lin can play SG imho.

and the influx of Nash, Lin, Landry youtube comedy will be the lulz


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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#46 » by Dr. Detfink » Thu May 24, 2012 6:35 pm

That comparison does NOT factor in...respect. I'm sorry, Amar'e & Melo didn't like at all when Linsanity erupted in the city...and it showed when Jeremy was trying to push the ball up with Melo and STAT out of position and being lackadaisical.

Dragic will NEVER outshine Melo and Stat, Lin already HAS...THAT is where Star ego plays into the BIGGEST factor in running the point: Cooperation from his teammates.

This is one of the reasons WHY Lin staying in NYC is not a slam dunk.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#47 » by wasted_101 » Thu May 24, 2012 6:38 pm

why does this matter, dragic is not signing for the mle . he will get 10 million somewhere
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#48 » by Rcai » Thu May 24, 2012 6:55 pm

Pharmcat wrote:dragic is a much better player

better ball skills, experienced in POs, knows the rigor of 82 game schedule


but lin is a cash cow so he stays


I keep reading this cash cow thing and am starting to get tired of this a little bit. Lin will not be a cash cow if he doesnt play or doesn't play well. Look at Yi. Is he a cash cow? Hell no. There is no way to keep Lin and not develop him and assume cash flowing in automatically.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#49 » by bklynstoops » Thu May 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Rcai wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:dragic is a much better player

better ball skills, experienced in POs, knows the rigor of 82 game schedule


but lin is a cash cow so he stays


I keep reading this cash cow thing and am starting to get tired of this a little bit. Lin will not be a cash cow if he doesnt play or doesn't play well. Look at Yi. Is he a cash cow? Hell no. There is no way to keep Lin and not develop him and assume cash flowing in automatically.


Well, it's a good, facile way to detract from the fact that the kid earned himself a contract on the basketball floor.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#50 » by FanzWaaat » Thu May 24, 2012 7:11 pm

Pharmcat wrote:dragic is a much better player

better ball skills, experienced in POs, knows the rigor of 82 game schedule


+ 1

Dragic
Pros: More NBA experience including Euroleague; No history of serious injury; Steve Nash's apprentice for a few years; Better 3 point shooter; Better finisher; Fewer turnovers than Lin

Cons: Will demand more money; Two years older than Lin; Not NY tested; Will need to build chemistry with new team.

Lin
Pros: Showed lots of potential with barely any NBA exp; Better assist numbers than Dragic; Handled the NY spotlight; Performed in some clutch moments. Built some chemistry with existing players; RFA so NY can match; Ratings/sales booster;

Cons: Turnover machine (MIA layed down blueprint to stop him), Meniscus injury (can potentially lead to microfracture surgery). Small sample of Linsanity. Can he sustain the level of play for 82 games? Why was he not drafted and cut twice?
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#51 » by UnderdogKnicks » Thu May 24, 2012 7:15 pm

Dragic is a better player but he is 26 years old. Lin is just 23 I'll rather have Lin cause hes sorta homegrown that we were the 1s to find him when every1 else abandoned him and we are Asia's team which means David Stern has to favor us as an organization and doesn't want us to fail. :D
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#52 » by Marty McFly » Thu May 24, 2012 7:16 pm

YOU HEAR THAT EVERYBODY?!

DRAGIC IS BETTER THEN LIN! SIGN HIM TO AN OFFER SHEET! FORGET ABOUT LIN!

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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#53 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu May 24, 2012 7:21 pm

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Huey Freeman wrote:I don't think you can favor Lin in any regard to Dragic RIGHT NOW because MDA gave Lin the greenlight once Lin-Sanity took over, the number averages comparison are unique in that MDA's system was so free for Lin. Dragic never had that freedom in the offense the way Lin had in that stretch of games before MDA was fired. Who is to say that Dragic couldn't have put up similar numbers if HE was the PG during that same stretch of games?


You must not watch any Houston games. They ran an offense similar to MDA's where the PGs had all the freedom and green light. Lowry posed similar numbers as Dragic as a starter and a better record.

That's because Lowry had Dragic backing him up and Dragic had no one.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#54 » by howe070523 » Thu May 24, 2012 7:26 pm

Whats up with pharmcat going at Lin at full strength?
Still butthurt from Lin not playing in the playoffs?

Get over it buddy.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#55 » by ijag23 » Thu May 24, 2012 8:04 pm

So basically the same people who thought Lin wasn't even worth drafting still don't think highly of him. They are consistent if nothing else.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#56 » by gamer4Life » Thu May 24, 2012 9:20 pm

Rcai wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:dragic is a much better player

better ball skills, experienced in POs, knows the rigor of 82 game schedule


but lin is a cash cow so he stays


I keep reading this cash cow thing and am starting to get tired of this a little bit. Lin will not be a cash cow if he doesnt play or doesn't play well. Look at Yi. Is he a cash cow? Hell no. There is no way to keep Lin and not develop him and assume cash flowing in automatically.


If Jeremy Lin is a cash cow, then Hollywood would produce movies starring Asian male leads instead of giving them stereotypical roles that make fun of them.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#57 » by Pharmcat » Thu May 24, 2012 9:22 pm

howe070523 wrote:Whats up with pharmcat going at Lin at full strength?
Still butthurt from Lin not playing in the playoffs?

Get over it buddy.




ive stated he is important to the success of the team...him and melo (and amare and tc) operating at 100% with chemistry
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#58 » by blumatic » Thu May 24, 2012 9:27 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:That comparison does NOT factor in...respect. I'm sorry, Amar'e & Melo didn't like at all when Linsanity erupted in the city...and it showed when Jeremy was trying to push the ball up with Melo and STAT out of position and being lackadaisical.

Dragic will NEVER outshine Melo and Stat, Lin already HAS...THAT is where Star ego plays into the BIGGEST factor in running the point: Cooperation from his teammates.

This is one of the reasons WHY Lin staying in NYC is not a slam dunk.


Linsanity should keep them humble.
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#59 » by Pharmcat » Thu May 24, 2012 9:35 pm

carayip wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:dragic is a much better player

better ball skills, experienced in POs, knows the rigor of 82 game schedule


but lin is a cash cow so he stays


You are not rational bro. Started 0 games and averaged 15 mpg in POs = experienced? Never played a full 82 games in a season and had a grand total 38 starts in a 4 year career = knew the rigor of schedule?

Toney Douglas is more experienced than Goran Dragic.


didnt dragic CLOWN the spurs in the POs?

yea he knows how to get it done
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Re: Jeremy Lin vs. Goran Dragic 

Post#60 » by moocow007 » Thu May 24, 2012 10:03 pm

gamer4Life wrote:
Rcai wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:dragic is a much better player

better ball skills, experienced in POs, knows the rigor of 82 game schedule


but lin is a cash cow so he stays


I keep reading this cash cow thing and am starting to get tired of this a little bit. Lin will not be a cash cow if he doesnt play or doesn't play well. Look at Yi. Is he a cash cow? Hell no. There is no way to keep Lin and not develop him and assume cash flowing in automatically.


If Jeremy Lin is a cash cow, then Hollywood would produce movies starring Asian male leads instead of giving them stereotypical roles that make fun of them.


Lin is a cash cow...he's already proven it by filling every arena he's in that often would be empty. As far as your movie analogy goes...I'm sure if they can actually find an asian male actor that has the same potential clout as the established "white guys" they would be milking him as well.

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